I'll just say this: wait for the official launch. I have a feeling there's a surprise coming.
At this point Intel still doesn't have any reason to lower prices. If they do now, before they know whether or not AMD is going to sell well enough to make a difference they'd be leaving money on the table. And that's about the last thing they'd ever do.So much for that fabled competition. Threadripper it is.
Depends on who hits the market first. Could be ThreadRipper. Either way we will have to wait till launch to see the real prices. I honestly expected Intel to drop the top chip a little. But you are right, Intel first they have no reason to cut profits until they have to. Knowing Intel much like Nvidia, they might even hold out after TR without dropping prices feeling that they are Intel and don't have to.At this point Intel still doesn't have any reason to lower prices. If they do now, before they know whether or not AMD is going to sell well enough to make a difference they'd be leaving money on the table. And that's about the last thing they'd ever do.
Depends on who hits the market first. Could be ThreadRipper. Either way we will have to wait till launch to see the real prices. I honestly expected Intel to drop the top chip a little. But you are right, Intel first they have no reason to cut profits until they have to. Knowing Intel much like Nvidia, they might even hold out after TR without dropping prices feeling that they are Intel and don't have to.
6800K->7800X ($440)
6850K($610)->7820X($650)
6900k($1000)->7900X($1100)
6950X($1700)->7920X($1700)
I'll just say this: wait for the official launch. I have a feeling there's a surprise coming.
I'll just say this: wait for the official launch. I have a feeling there's a surprise coming.
Do you know more than you're letting on?
Regarding those prices, I saw those earlier in this or another thread I think, and they were just someone's thoughts. I wouldn't put to much thought into it.
We'll know in a few days.
Did I miss any of the news and the 7820X is not expected to be a 8c/16t which turbos past 4Ghz?6850K($610)->7820X($499)
I think the idea behind that pricing model is that Intel is pricing it up directly up against the 1800x. Which is why I wouldn't put to much belief in that pricing. Even if Intel felt that the needed to be competitive with AMD, they think too highly of themselves, the chip will be faster than a 1800x. No way they don't have it priced at some kind of premium. Even if it's only $50. No way they match a 1800x in pricing.Did I miss any of the news and the 7820X is not expected to be a 8c/16t which turbos past 4Ghz?
I know what the idea was, but I thought that maybe I'm not aware of the latest specs for the 7820X. There's indeed no way Intel will launch a faster chip than 1800X at the same price.I think the idea behind that pricing model is that Intel is pricing it up directly up against the 1800x. Which is why I wouldn't put to much belief in that pricing. Even if Intel felt that the needed to be competitive with AMD, they think too highly of themselves, the chip will be faster than a 1800x. No way they don't have it priced at some kind of premium. Even if it's only $50. No way they match a 1800x in pricing.
From the new naming and reduced PCIe lanes it would seem there will be a price drop as 8 core became too easily obtainable now. But you never know, Intel could be so detached from reality they could try to keep prices. In that case I would have no option but to go with Threadripper.
These are the prices I would expect - slot reuse and very slight price increase per slot. 7820X will demolish Ryzen 1800X, it offers more of everything and better performance. Of course people will have to pay more... It will be the best 8 core and OC well. 7900X will be great too if you can accord it. It is the price I would be willing to pay for it.
This page claims to have leaked HEDT prices http://www.hd-tecnologia.com/precios-filtrados-la-linea-lga-2066-intel/
7640K($220)
7740K ($350)
6800K->7800X ($440)
6850K($610)->7820X($650)
6900k($1000)->7900X($1100)
6950X($1700)->7920X($1700)
Intel's CPU will have a 15-20% stock clock advantage over 1700, and that clock advantage is bound to be maintained even when overclocking. Add a conservative 10% IPC advantage (it will be more) on top of that and you get 25-30% performance uplift. Intel can easily drop the 7800X a bit under $400, keep 7820X around $550 like Topweasel already hinted, and make both CPUs an offer most will not refuse.How can Intel price the 8 core against 1800X when the R7 1700 exists for only $300 and gives similar performance? Intel needs to match R7 1700 performance for similar cost.
http://drmola.com/bbs_free/168958CFL-S (LGA1151-Rev.2?)
CFL-S Core i7: 6 core 12 threads, LLC 12MB
CFL-S Core i5: 4 cores 8 threads, LLC 8MB
CFL-S Core i3: 4 cores 4 threads, LLC 6 / 8MB
All three of the above line-up GT2 graphics are built-in.
CFL-S Pentium: 2 cores 4 threads, LLC 3 / 4MB
For models with LLC 4MB, GT2 integrated graphics are included.
For models with LLC 3MB, GT1 integrated graphics are included.
CFL-S Celeron: 2 cores 2 threads, LLC 2MB, GT1
I found some news about CFL-S here: https://hardforum.com/threads/coffe...ugust-several-k-models-planned.1930226/page-7
"CFL-S Core i5: 4 cores 8 threads, LLC 8MB"
They do one launch, one full refresh per socket. It's been that way for a long time. The theories that Intel would scratch that on the same launch they start offering a 6c CPU was always a pipe dream. Not saying they can't change their spots but if I was looking at CL I would assume that it's a new socket.I recently noticed that Intel changed the socket for Coffee Lake-S to LGA 1151 v2 and would only be compatible with the Z370.
I wonder if this is true.
Says that Coffee Lake is only compatible with 300 series boards. Oh and the goodies that come with the 300 series (Z390) isn't coming out until January, the Z370 is just a rebadged 200 series updated to support Coffee Lake. You can of course use Kaby with 300 series if you wanted to.
Didn't we already see a CL-S chip Sisoft bench with 6C/6T and 9mb L2?
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...d5e3dbecdfe6d4f280bd8dabceab96a680f3cef6&l=en
Same or old socket, it was never a given that 200series was going to support Coffeelake. Intel don't need a socket change. Have a look to Broadwell 4+4e which was supported on Z97 but wasn't for Z87 on the same socket. Intel is going to change the core branding which is a huge game changer. Calling this a worst case scenario is laughable. Same for the SKL-X pricing if true. If this all comes to reality the CPU market will look a lot different in 1-3 months. For AMD it's a bad news actually. Their huge price/performance advantage will be history.