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Ajay

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What are the prices of these x299 mobos? Are they all generally in 400-500 range, or is there any for 200-250? I bought my X99 last year for about 250, no way i would pay more than that.

So allot of the 'Previews' have been for >= $300 mobos, because mobo makers want ppl to geek out over the features. I'm sure there will be more basic boards under $300. Not sure how low they'll go since they'll need to support up to an 18 core processor.
 

Bouowmx

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Wait until 06-19 (pre-order) or 06-26 (shipping and general availability).

I don't see how X99's pricing of 200 USD and up would become 400 USD and up, given that X299 features are very similar to X99's.
 

Timmah!

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Wait until 06-19 (pre-order) or 06-26 (shipping and general availability).

I don't see how X99's pricing of 200 USD and up would become 400 USD and up, given that X299 features are very similar to X99's.


Well, i used to have one of the top and most expensive x58 boards (gigabyte UD7), which was at the time (2010) 300 EUROs. When i was trying to decide for the right x99 board last year, i found out, the 300 ones were actually the cheaper ones, while the most expensive one i saw was like 600? :-O Safe to say, nothing would surprise me now.

Anyway, thank you. Was not aware of the exact dates of availability.
 

DrMrLordX

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That might be the case. Didn't stop me from trying (and failing, urgh) to preorder a C6H from Amazon. Some folks just wanna get in early, be an early adopter, etc etc

Hopefully the Skylake-X crowd won't be disappointed with what they get.
 

Sweepr

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Alienware Area 51 featuring Intel Core i9-7920X will arrive on August 22

THE NEW AREA-51 DESKTOP INCLUDES A MOTHERBOARD BASED ON THE INTEL X299 CHIPSET WITH AN UNLOCKED BIOS FOR OVERCLOCKING SUPPORTING CPUS WITH THE SOCKET R4 (2066 PINS). IT WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH A 6, 8, 10, OR 12-CORE CPU OPTION

Area 51 featuring Intel Core X-Series will arrive on August 22, with pricing to be announced soon.

www.alienwarearena.com/products/area-51-w-intel-x-series-cpus
www.dell.com/learn/vg/en/vgcorp1/secure/2017-06-12-alienware-and-dell-double-down-on-high-performance-pc-gaming-and-vr

12C/24T Skylake-X should be available at or before this date.
 

twothreefive

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The biostar racing might be a great lower cost board. It will be around $250 according to this video - pricing is discussed at 1:33:

https://youtu.be/gETHFMf1fcU

Nice feature set:

http://wccftech.com/intel-x299-motherboards-pictured-asus-asrock-gigabyte-biostar-evga-msi/

Biostar X299 Racing GT9 Motherboard
Biostar is also preparing a very strong X299 offering in the form of the X299 Racing GT9. This is the flagship X299 motherboard from Biostar and features a full Extended ATX form factor with a yellow and black color scheme.

The motherboard features the LGA 2066 socket that supports Intel’s Core X processors and is powered by a single 8 pin connector. The motherboard itself is supplied power through the 24-pin ATX connector. The board has a 14 phase power phases that would allow higher stability and a lot of overclocking potential to enthusiasts.

This monstrosity also packs 7 PCIe 3.0 x16 ports (x16, x16, x8, x4, x4, x4, x4), a single M.2 port and also two U.2 ports. For storage we are looking at four SATA III ports which should be enough for storage enthusiasts as there’s also M.2 and U.2 support on board the product. On the board, we can see eight DDR4 DIMM slots that can support 128 GB capacities at speeds of 4000 MHz (OC+). I/O on the backpanel includes 2 USB 3.1, 1 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2.0 and Intel Gigabit LAN port.
 
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SpoCk0nd0pe

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The Asus boards had the highest falue rates of x99 boards. Biostar has had low falue rates over the past years and good designs, I'd look at that or a gigabyte board. They made some good value x99 boards.

But like it was said already, we need benchmarks and then probably another quater before we have numbers on the falure rates.

For me personally, actual performance differences of mobos are usually diminutive. I am not trying to break overclocking world records. So aside from bugs, falue rate is the most interesting thing about mobos for me.
 
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Ajay

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The Asus boards had the highest falue rates of x99 boards. Biostar has had low falue rates over the past years and good designs, I'd look at that or a gigabyte board. They made some good value x99 boards.

Do you have a source for this reliability data?
 

Atari2600

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You know, I think its premature to buy a motherboard for a CPU that we have no specs on, and no benchmarks. Not to mention what they might be benchmarked against.

Rationality is in short supply.

Although you gotta wonder how many are actually buying and how many are just talking big...
 
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AdamK47

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The Asus boards had the highest falue rates of x99 boards. Biostar has had low falue rates over the past years and good designs, I'd look at that or a gigabyte board. They made some good value x99 boards.

But like it was said already, we need benchmarks and then probably another quater before we have numbers on the falure rates.

For me personally, actual performance differences of mobos are usually diminutive. I am not trying to break overclocking world records. So aside from bugs, falue rate is the most interesting thing about mobos for me.

Where are you getting this data? Sounds very dubious. If data exists, I'd like to know how many units sold vs number of failures.

Biostar hasn't been considered in the enthusiasts community for a very long time. I'd say well over a decade. They didn't even make an X99 board. They've been associated with no frills, basic, and cheap. Their X299 boards may change all of that though. They don't have the proven track record like Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI have. They would have to come on strong in order to get a slice of enthusiast buyers.
 
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twothreefive

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Where are you getting this data? Sounds very dubious. If data exists, I'd like to know how many units sold vs number of failures.

Biostar hasn't been considered in the enthusiasts community for a very long time. I'd say well over a decade. They didn't even make an X99 board. They've been associated with no frills, basic, and cheap. Their X299 boards may change all of that though. They don't have the proven track record like Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, and MSI have. They would have to come on strong in order to get a slice of enthusiast buyers.


If the Biostar racing x299 does come in under $250 with that feature set, I am going to give it a shot.
 

Zucker2k

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Rationality is in short supply.

Although you gotta wonder how many are actually buying and how many are just talking big...
You sound quite butthurt. Where were you when Ryzen made it's premature debut? Early buyers could well have used your crystal ball skills. Intel's HEDT platform is a proven platform. No need for fear-mongering.
 
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scannall

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You sound quite butthurt. Where were you when Ryzen made it's premature debut? Early buyers could well have used your crystal ball skills. Intel's HEDT platform is a proven platform. No need for fear-mongering.
Same with the X58 early adopters? What a mess that was.
 

Zucker2k

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Isn't that the difference here though, Intel had to go through all those trouble to be where it's at with it's platform. It's definitely the proven platform.
 
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VirtualLarry

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I don't know if I would say that exactly. I would hesitate to call X299 a "proven platform". Maybe after 1-3 months of general release, after people are able to put the chipset through the paces.
 
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scannall

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Isn't that the difference here though, Intel had to go through all those trouble to be where it's at with it's platform. It's definitely the proven platform.
With any new architecture there will be teething issues. It should be expected. Intel hasn't had a new architecture for a very long time, just refining and tweaking what they already have. AMD has been taking care of the AM4 teething issues at a pretty good pace. And they deserve the same forbearance that Intel received when their architecture was new and shiny.
 

Atari2600

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You sound quite butthurt. Where were you when Ryzen made it's premature debut? Early buyers could well have used your crystal ball skills. Intel's HEDT platform is a proven platform. No need for fear-mongering.

Its not about stability - why pay obscene amounts of money for a platform when you don't know where its performance will fall relative to the competition? (which will be available at approximately the same time).

Seems pretty stupid to me.
 

Zucker2k

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Its not about stability - why pay obscene amounts of money for a platform when you don't know where its performance will fall relative to the competition? (which will be available at approximately the same time).

Seems pretty stupid to me.
But it should be about stability, foremost. I believe most are aware of AMD's upcoming processor(s). I genuinely wish them luck, for the sake of competition but I don't subscribe to the experiment they're about to unleash on the market. I saw how the Ryzen release went, and that is a mere octacore. All I can say is power to the people who buy that behemoth of a chip. Me, I prefer the Intel line, as stupid as my decision may seem. Thanks, anyway.
 

Timmah!

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The Asus boards had the highest falue rates of x99 boards. Biostar has had low falue rates over the past years and good designs, I'd look at that or a gigabyte board. They made some good value x99 boards.

But like it was said already, we need benchmarks and then probably another quater before we have numbers on the falure rates.

For me personally, actual performance differences of mobos are usually diminutive. I am not trying to break overclocking world records. So aside from bugs, falue rate is the most interesting thing about mobos for me.

Personally i have preference for Gigabyte boards. I guess its mostly down to the fact my last 3 boards were Gigabytes and all the rigs with them were pretty much without any major issues and instabilities. The only time i got annoyed was when i needed to borrow HW-E chip to flash my latest board for the BIOS supporting BW-E, cause it was not doable without it - that was pretty stupid mistake on Gigabyte´s part. Otherwise though, i am fine with my choice.

Then again, if i went Asus or MSI, i would probably equally satisfied right now. Still, if i decide to waste some more money this year on x299 (or x399 if i will go threadripper), then i will most likely choose Gigabyte again - say UD4 or preferably Aorus 3 board. Unless ofc MSI or Asus offers something better equipped and rated in that up to 250 range.
 

TheF34RChannel

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But it should be about stability, foremost. I believe most are aware of AMD's upcoming processor(s). I genuinely wish them luck, for the sake of competition but I don't subscribe to the experiment they're about to unleash on the market. I saw how the Ryzen release went, and that is a mere octacore. All I can say is power to the people who buy that behemoth of a chip. Me, I prefer the Intel line, as stupid as my decision may seem. Thanks, anyway.

You, sir, speaketh the truth as I see it as well. Is that a 10C I see in your future?
 
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