If Coffee Lake launches next month, it will hurt Skylake-X for sure.
Looking doubtful that Coffee Lake will launch next month, as per the previous rumours I read.
I am just now figuring out how to get the voltage offset to work how I want with my Gigabyte board. Coming from Asus, I have had some learning to do. The good new is, that now with the voltage no longer pinned at 1.235, the 7820x actually looks to be running a good bit cooler. I am 20 minutes into Prime 95 "Standard Blend" with AVX and my hottest core has been 79c. 9c cooler than it was with fixed voltage. It is actually spending much of it's time at 1.133v, which I would assume is because of the AVX offset lowering clocks.
I am going to let it run for a full hour and see how high the temps will climb. Then on to realbench.
"Server first" doesn't mean "we won't get engineers to build the right solutions for client products."
Intel will do dedicated client and server IP configs and uncore configs going forward.
If Coffee Lake launches next month, it will hurt Skylake-X for sure.
Nice, what is your AVX offset?
I'm sure they will do a "client" core, but the focus would be Xeon D. Which will be 32 or more cores soon enough be it monolithic or using multiple CPU tiles. So the L2 gets cut and AVX-512 goes away but the mesh stays. As I mentioned I think they are using the mesh to connect to other tiles too.
Since Intel appears to not be doing a Skylake/Kabylake Xeon D (as rumored) I imagine you won't be seeing a refresh until Icelake now. Kind of a long time to go without new product but I guess that's what they will have to do.
I'm sure they will do a "client" core, but the focus would be Xeon D. Which will be 32 or more cores soon enough be it monolithic or using multiple CPU tiles. So the L2 gets cut and AVX-512 goes away but the mesh stays. As I mentioned I think they are using the mesh to connect to other tiles too.
Since Intel appears to not be doing a Skylake/Kabylake Xeon D (as rumored) I imagine you won't be seeing a refresh until Icelake now. Kind of a long time to go without new product but I guess that's what they will have to do.
MMM toasty. OC'd to 4.7 Ghz it uses 410 W in Blender. They call it "Skyhog", heh.
-500. I guess I could actually lower it.
Google translate is messing up, but if true - seems like something is rotten in Denmark. That said, Intel seems to be terribly quiet about all this, I mean, WTF?
I'll check back later to see if you have something objective to say too.Easy there, grandpa! We don't want you getting a heart attack over a forum discussion of hardware, do we now?
Basically, what I was driving at is this: A six core Intel cpu costing $389 is holding the entire Ryzen line-up in check. This is a chip with noticeable weaknesses, ie. gaming, and yet it trounces everything AMD. Now, imagine what'll happen in September when the 7700k is shrinked and gains two additional cores and an even larger L3 cache! So, yes, with all AMD's Ryzen chips losing to Intel's hexacore in the vast majority of benchmarks, only three months after release, the picture on the wall is clear enough - AMD needs something better than Zen in it's current iteration to remain competitive. This is where the obsolescence comes in. Indeed, we shall be seeing the replacement soon enough.
X299 VRM Disaster - UPDATE (en) what now, people who instantly bashed der8auer when his original video came out? Where's all the FUD(allegedly)?
Just stating the full results of the article instead of one cherry-picked scenario cited over and over and over again by that particular poster. I dont see how stating the facts is "spinning" anything.So Ryzen is a multipurpose CPU, that wins in many productivity benchmarks, looses in games by a small margin and uses 66% of the power. Oh, and costs less too.
You can spin it any way you want.
Did you watch the video?Awesome. He was able to get a VRMs to overheat in an incredibly unrealistic usage scenario. Guess what? I can blow up the greatest of car engines if you remove the rev limiter.
What was unrealistic about his testing? A guy selling binned and delidded CPUs shouldn't look at the worst-case scenario?Awesome. He was able to get a VRMs to overheat in an incredibly unrealistic usage scenario. Guess what? I can blow up the greatest of car engines if you remove the rev limiter.
3200MHz CL14 DDR4 performs about the same as EDRAM. It's primary function was always intended to be a crutch for the iGPU.Interesting part being Civ Vi results. The 5775c wins followed by the 4790k. Anything skylake based clearly slower at minimums. 7900x scoring just barley above FX-levels. So this game seems to be very, very much cache and RAM limited. 5775c clock is 3.3 Ghz...
Wish intel would release a 6-core part with eDram.
3200MHz CL14 DDR4 performs about the same as EDRAM. It's primary function was always intended to be a crutch for the iGPU.
Yes, check this out- in games, EDRAM is offsetting the difference between 2133MHz CL11 DDR3 and 2800MHz CL15 DDR4:The why is the 5775c clearly faster especially in max? Or are you saying if you test say the 7700k with that RAM it will be much faster? The bench did in fact only use 2400 mhz RAM for the 7700k (unclear what was used for the 5775c).
Did you watch the video?
He claims that you might think the CPU is performing as it should at a certain speed but you get low performance. When you allow it to really perform by increasing the power available, it performs as it should but the power shoots up much higher. You are being fooled by some internal mechanism in the CPU. This is not just as you claim, "He was able to get a VRMs to overheat in an incredibly unrealistic usage scenario".
If i may ask, the liquid metal compound, which people put directly on the die after delidding to decrease the temps, thats different than indium solder, right?
If i may ask, the liquid metal compound, which people put directly on the die after delidding to decrease the temps, thats different than indium solder, right?
I'm now thinking about what TG and CLU mixes into the gallistan to make it handle better...
Awesome. He was able to get a VRMs to overheat in an incredibly unrealistic usage scenario. Guess what? I can blow up the greatest of car engines if you remove the rev limiter.