The real question here is has the improvements in the 14++ / 14+ are something beyond anything happened in previous processes?
I'd bet not.
The improvements in the 14+ / 14++ are nothing we have never seen before (In their scale) from other Fabs or Intel itself in previous generations.
Well, thank God some actual work was done then. I despise snake oil.Is that plain old rhetoric extolling the virtues of Intel's engineers or genuine curiosity?
If it's the latter, then the underlying principle is very simple. To fit more cores in the same TDP the cores must operate at a lower voltage. However, too low a voltage and the transistors might not work at all. So the only way to make them work at a lower voltage is to change their geometry, which means changing the parameters of the process.
Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor
Cinebench R15 Score
Single: 196cb
Multi: 1230cb
Source - https://www.facebook.com/MrTechQc/videos/vb.1428875457357578/1985486751696443/?type=2&theater
http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id=95389
Intel had 10nm mobile chips in January at CES, so don't be surprised.There is a difference when a FAB announcing it tweaked its process to a product making this small tweaking the headline (Its main feature).
The improvements in the 14+ / 14++ are nothing we have never seen before (In their scale) from other Fabs or Intel itself in previous generations.
The only difference is the high end CPU's of Intel has never stayed so long on the same process (Usually Intel hasn't bothered to update their layout to latest tweaked process of the same generation).
You can still keep writing in the forum it is the greatest advancement in the FAB history but it won't make it any more true.
We all wished Intel could have moved forward to 10nm, Intel and the customers alike.
6C12T 10nm parts have also been leaking on Sisoft.
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_s...e1dceccaa29faf89f1ccfcdabfdae7d7f182bf87&l=en
I think it's 10nm mobile.That is almost certainly Coffee Lake. It does use the Cannonlake PCH/platform however.
I think it's 10nm mobile.
It does say "mobile graphics". It does have less cache than a desktop part should have.Intel can't even get a dual core model out on 10 nm, let alone anything bigger.
It does say "mobile graphics". It does have less cache than a desktop part should have.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-cannonlake-10nm
I haven't seen or heard of any 6C12T CFL mobile parts though.Yeah that's Coffee Lake mobile.
I haven't seen or heard of any 6C12T CFL mobile parts though.
If they have a 6C12T mobile part at 2.6Ghz on 14nm++, that's a good sign.
The MT performance seems way off, as if HT is disabled.Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor
Cinebench R15 Score
Single: 196cb
Multi: 1230cb
Source - https://www.facebook.com/MrTechQc/videos/vb.1428875457357578/1985486751696443/?type=2&theater
http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id=95389
The MT performance seems way off, as if HT is disabled.
6C Turbo isn't working great there because it's only 27% faster than 7700k. Even the 1C Turbo wasn't running with 4.7 Ghz, looks more like 4.5 Ghz. This is clearly not a representative system.