Intel SSD Is No Longer Detected After Cloning

TechnicGeek

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Hello,

I decided to upgrade to Windows 7 to Windows 10 while upgrade is free. Before upgrading to Windows 10 I cloned HDD to SSD in case upgrade goes wrong using AOMEI Backupper (partition alignment for SSD checked)

I used external USB/SATA adapter to interface between laptop and SSD. After upgrade went smooth, I decided to clone HDD with upgraded Windows 10 to SSD so I can just swap and start using SSD. I left cloning and went to sleep and after waking up there was SSD partition missing. Tried disconnecting and reconnecting, tried attaching to laptop's motherboard SATA port directly and after all this SSD was not found.

What can be done at this point? Anything to reset SSDs BIOS? What if it works but there was internal BIOS override or something?
 

Coup27

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So to clarify, if you insert the SSD in the laptop and open BIOS, the SSD does not show?
 

TechnicGeek

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So to clarify, if you insert the SSD in the laptop and open BIOS, the SSD does not show?

Correct.

Also if it is relevant, bootup time is delayed as there's that first screen of motherboard logo when you turn on laptop. This screen usually states what keys to press to either access BIOS or bring up Boot Menu to select which device to boot from. Normally there is no delay and system responds fast to key presses but with SSD inside, there are maybe 10 first seconds that system does not respond and when I start to press keys rapidly, I start to hear beeps from motherboard dynamic. At first I thought that system was locked up as it tried detect SSD but then I decided to wait and it took 10 seconds or so for system to proceed. Of course it would not boot because SSD was not detected.

I never tried different hard drive or SSD and cannot tell if such delay can be specific to this SSD or this delay is normally a result of device that system cannot detect as it attempts. I would think that it should not take delay for system to determine if dead device is dead and if this was true, then could the reason for delay I am experiencing mean that SSD is functional but something causes system to experience delay to attempt at detecting it? Maybe its software related issue like error in firmware and there is a solution to fix/unbrick it?
 
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Coup27

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The SSD is toast. Sorry.

Edit: If an SSD doesn't show in BIOS and it is connected directly to the laptop over SATA, there is nothing you can do. The manufacturer can possibly resurrect, but it's beyond the capabilities of the average Jo with normal IT equipment.
 

master_shake_

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i had that problem with a mushkin drive.

wouldn't show up as itself in the bios.

i emailed mushkin and they sent me a field updater and it got all the data back.

maybe intel has a utility for that?

is there a small chance you didn't plug it in?
 

TechnicGeek

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The SSD is toast. Sorry.

Edit: If an SSD doesn't show in BIOS and it is connected directly to the laptop over SATA, there is nothing you can do. The manufacturer can possibly resurrect, but it's beyond the capabilities of the average Jo with normal IT equipment.

Baking SSD as a last resort? I hope it won't take my microwave with it - http://superuser.com/questions/506410/how-can-i-recover-dead-ssd-drives/976132#976132

There is this post about jtag device that unbricks SSD - https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unbrick-ocz-ssd-vertex-2-methods-go-here.154610/

The device reminds me of PCB used to hack motherboard's BIOS I saw sold in Chinese websites.

There is a power cycling albeit it works with Crucial SSD - http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Bios-is-not-recognize-crucail-m4-SSD-64GB/m-p/64485#M19896

Maybe it's something programmed into it. If it is then it's probably solely for Crucial.
 

TechnicGeek

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Which intel SSD are we talking about?

Intel 330i 120GB MLC

i emailed mushkin and they sent me a field updater and it got all the data back.

maybe intel has a utility for that?

is there a small chance you didn't plug it in?

Field updater? What field does it update? I plugged drive very well and I played with plugging and unplugging when I tried it with external USB/SATA adapter. Tried with HDD and it worked just to see if adapter got issues.
 

nerp

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I've heard that cloning HD to SSD can cause issues without a tool that can handle SSDs specifically. If it thinks it's just a HD, then it can be bad. I know nothing beyond that. Just an FYI.
 

TechnicGeek

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@nerp Think it's because I used 3rd party software than "Intel Data Migration Tool" (based on Acronis)? Actually on their forum they recommend 3rd party software like EaseUs ToDo. The one I used is it's replica - AOMEI Backupper.
 

Elixer

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I've heard that cloning HD to SSD can cause issues without a tool that can handle SSDs specifically. If it thinks it's just a HD, then it can be bad. I know nothing beyond that. Just an FYI.
That has to do with the partition being aligned, nothing more. So, the cloning software needs to be SSD aware so it can align the partition correctly.

@nerp Think it's because I used 3rd party software than "Intel Data Migration Tool" (based on Acronis)? Actually on their forum they recommend 3rd party software like EaseUs ToDo. The one I used is it's replica - AOMEI Backupper.
Yeah, that is a non-issue with anything recent.


OP, you may be able to do the firmware write tool with it, but, if the BIOS won't even see it anymore, then, it is doubtful it will work. I would try it in a desktop machine, and if that BIOS don't see it either.. you are out of luck.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...egacy-consumer-ssds/intel-ssd-330-series.html
 

Coup27

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Baking SSD as a last resort? I hope it won't take my microwave with it - http://superuser.com/questions/506410/how-can-i-recover-dead-ssd-drives/976132#976132
Putting PCB's in an oven (note oven, not microwave ) to magically bring them back to life has been around for years. It has worked on some PCB's but only when they have a specific issue with the soldering.

"A "dry joint" occurs when the cooling solder is moved, and often occurs because the joint moves when the soldering iron is removed from the joint. An improperly selected or applied flux can cause joint failure. If not properly cleaned, a flux may corrode the joint and cause eventual joint failure." [Google Search].

Putting a PCB in an oven melts the solder and can sometimes rescue the joint.
 

master_shake_

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Intel 330i 120GB MLC



Field updater? What field does it update? I plugged drive very well and I played with plugging and unplugging when I tried it with external USB/SATA adapter. Tried with HDD and it worked just to see if adapter got issues.

field updater as in not at the factory
 

deustroop

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Correct.

Also if it is relevant, bootup time is delayed as there's that first screen of motherboard logo when you turn on laptop. This screen usually states what keys to press to either access BIOS or bring up Boot Menu to select which device to boot from. Normally there is no delay and system responds fast to key presses but with SSD inside, there are maybe 10 first seconds that system does not respond and when I start to press keys rapidly, I start to hear beeps from motherboard dynamic. At first I thought that system was locked up as it tried detect SSD but then I decided to wait and it took 10 seconds or so for system to proceed. Of course it would not boot because SSD was not detected.

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There is a missing partition ? Explain that ?
 
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