Intel Starts Production of Next-Generation Haswell Microprocessors.

[nyker96]

Link:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di..._Next_Generation_Haswell_Microprocessors.html

 

[khon]

The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned, since I'm most likely going to be buying something like the Asus TX300 with a Haswell processor as soon as they got released.

 

[Turbonium]

Good to hear. I'm also looking to use Haswell for my next system.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That usually means 3 months until the first units hits the warehouses.

 

[Turbonium]

That usually means 3 months until the first units hits the warehouses.

So are you saying Haswell could be available as early as May? :|

 

[inf64]

Well unofficial rumor stated that launch date is June 2nd but in order to launch then the units must be supplied much earlier so this news fits well with June release.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So are you saying Haswell could be available as early as May? :|

They will be in the warehouses around the world. The question is if you can buy one. Some will as always.

 

[Fx1]

Lets hope its more impressive than Ivy bridge. Ivy was more of a step backwards than forwards. 22nm did nothing for the desktop market

 

[blackened23]

My body is ready I want one.

And i'm not sure how Ivy was a "step backwards". The goal was lower power consumption, higher battery life, better graphics performance and a slight single threaded performance increase.

In all of those goals it was a complete success. I expect similarly of haswell.

 

[krumme]

Lets hope its more impressive than Ivy bridge. Ivy was more of a step backwards than forwards. 22nm did nothing for the desktop market

Come on - is top clock all that matters even for nerds?. IDC have shown there is real benefit for IB on the desktop side scaling all the way to the top for power usage. I run 4.2Ghz all cores, without any alterations on the standard settings, plus add the 3%-5% ipc. They IPC improvements might be small numbers, but for every percent there is hard work by the best.

 

[Fx1]

Come on - is top clock all that matters even for nerds?. IDC have shown there is real benefit for IB on the desktop side scaling all the way to the top for power usage. I run 4.2Ghz all cores, without any alterations on the standard settings, plus add the 3%-5% ipc. They IPC improvements might be small numbers, but for every percent there is hard work by the best.

2-3 % lol makes no difference. 500mhz extra clock will

 

[Necc]

Haswell is a Tock, right?

 

[Soulkeeper]

that cpu package he is holding up in the pics looks different than I expected
no extra SMDs for the integrated vrm ?

 

[SiliconWars]

If "starting production" on Ivy Bridge is any indicator of release date, I guess we'll see Haswell in August.

 

[Infraction Jack]

Is that also going to be socket 1155?

 

[videogames101]

2-3 % lol makes no difference. 500mhz extra clock will

what is power consumption

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Is that also going to be socket 1155?

Socket 1150.

 

[Idontcare]

Is that also going to be socket 1155?

Nope. Haswell-DT (desktop) is LGA1150. New socket, new chipset, new mobo.

edit: Charles beat me to it

 

[SiliconWars]

2-3 % lol makes no difference. 500mhz extra clock will

Intel usually gets ~100 MHz extra over a year? 500 MHz is not going to happen that's for sure.

 

[Idontcare]

Intel usually gets ~100 MHz extra over a year? 500 MHz is not going to happen that's for sure.

All depends on TDP.

Intel could sell a 95W TDP IvyBridge (3770K variant) clocked to 4.5GHz right now if they wanted. Instead they chose to shrink the TDP to 77W and keep the clocks the same as the 32nm 2700K.

 

[ClockHound]

All depends on TDP.

Intel could sell a 95W TDP IvyBridge (3770K variant) clocked to 4.5GHz right now if they wanted. Instead they chose to shrink the TDP to 77W and keep the clocks the same as the 32nm 2700K.

Sure, but what if it's 77W SDP? ;-)

 

[Idontcare]

Sure, but what if it's 77W SDP? ;-)

Then the sky is the limit! Set the clocks to 11 GHz and let the auto-throttling algorithms figure it out

 

[IntelUser2000]

Lets hope its more impressive than Ivy bridge. Ivy was more of a step backwards than forwards. 22nm did nothing for the desktop market

I doubt it'll get better. If I was a betting man, I'd say it would get worse and worse as it goes on.

They can't do both, focus on impressively advancing on the desktop, while holding off ARM on the low power space.

I'm expecting:
-10-15% better performance
-Similar air overclock as Ivy Bridge
-Better top overclocks using exotic cooling(but this is due to other factors like increasing the max multiplier and giving different base clock frequencies)

It's especially true because 22nm breaks the tradition of increasing drive currents to be high as possible. It doesn't, instead it focuses on lowering voltages and perf/watt(IOW, better performance at lower voltages).

In my opinion, that was the biggest sign that Intel was being serious about competing in the lower power market: By changing the nature of their process technology, their most important asset. There are bound to be sacrifices, and I wouldn't be surprised it was with the Desktop chips.

 

[blackened23]

In my opinion, that was the biggest sign that Intel was being serious about competing in the lower power market: By changing the nature of their process technology, their most important asset. There are bound to be sacrifices, and I wouldn't be surprised it was with the Desktop chips.

Indeed. The end game is getting this new technology into handheld/mobile devices, which haswell and broadwell will go a long way towards.

 

[Haserath]

I just want a performance leak! Hoping for it to be better than expected!