Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

[RichUK]

http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-tells-core-i7-7700k-owners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps/

LOL!

"We appreciate the feedback you have provided, and your patience as we investigated this behavior. The reported behavior of the 7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700K Processor, showing momentary temperature changes from the idle temperature, is normal while completing a task (like opening a browser or an application or a program).

In our internal investigation, we did not observe temperature variation outside of the expected behavior and recommended specifications. For processor specifications, please refer to the Intel Core i7-7700K Processor Product Specifications.

Most motherboard manufacturers offer customizable fan speed control settings that may allow for smoother transition of fan revolutions per minute (rpm). Please consult your motherboard manufacturer’s manual or website for instructions on how to change default fan speed control settings.

We do not recommend running outside the processor specifications, such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications, or removing of the integrated heat spreader (sometimes called 'de-lidding'). These actions will void the processor warranty."

TL;DR version is that everything checks out on Intel's end and users should not overclocked their Core i7-7700K processors, which have unlocked multipliers specifically for overclocking.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Kind of like a truck mfg telling people not to tow trailers with their truck (which specifically has towing as a feature), because it increases the transmission coolant temps too high.

Sigh. Friggin Intel.

 

[Rayniac]

Have AMD, Intel or Nvidia ever actually recommended overclocking? It is called >over<clocking for a reason.

 

[RichUK]

Have AMD, Intel or Nvidia ever actually recommended overclocking? It is called >over<clocking for a reason.

It's the whole point of unlocked multipliers - why allow it otherwise.

 

[Crono]

Have AMD, Intel or Nvidia ever actually recommended overclocking? It is called >over<clocking for a reason.

Recommended? Probably not. It's implicitly explicitly promoted, while at the same time including fine print saying it's not officially supported.

 

[maddie]

It's the whole point of unlocked multipliers - why allow it otherwise.

Simple, higher prices.

 

[dullard]

Faux outrage. The processor is sold at a given speed and runs well at that speed. If it doesn't, Intel will replace it under warranty.

Yes, you can overclock it, but at your own risk. How is this different than before? It isn't.

We need to realize in the world of turbo/boost clocks from Intel and automatic overclocking from AMD that their processors will reach higher temperatures. The temperature is meaningless, but people have an incorrect model in their head about temperatures and get worried. Forget everything you thought you knew about temperatures as that is now out the window with both Intel and AMD. Now go overclock and have fun.

 

[mpo]

Have AMD, Intel or Nvidia ever actually recommended overclocking? It is called >over<clocking for a reason.

AMD has the same warning on their website.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

Go down to the "Read the Ryzen Maser FAQ"

Lo-and-behold, FAQ 1:
WARNING: AMD processors, including chipsets, CPUs, APUs and GPUs (collectively and individually “AMD processor”), are intended to be operated only within their associated specifications and factory settings. Operating your AMD processor outside of official AMD specifications or outside of factory settings, including but not limited to the conducting of overclocking (including use of this overclocking software, even if such software has been directly or indirectly provided by AMD or an entity otherwise affiliated in any way with AMD), may damage your processor, affect the operation of your processor or the security features therein and/or lead to other problems, including but not limited to damage to your system components...

And, yes, overclocking will void your warranty: SOP, CYA, etc., etc.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Someone link that Intel commercial, about the Grandmother. "Overclocking: So Easy Your Grandmother could do it."

 

[Crono]

Someone link that Intel commercial, about the Grandmother. "Overclocking: So Easy Your Grandmother could do it."

 

[Rayniac]

lol. So cringy.

 

[crashtech]

This isn't news. Unlocked multipliers have always been an unsupported feature and it's not difficult to discern why. You might get 100MHz or 1000, YMMV.

 

[Crono]

This isn't news. Unlocked multipliers have always been an unsupported feature and it's not difficult to discern why. You might get 100MHz or 1000, YMMV.

It's not news, it's just i7-7700K users expressing their frustration because they expected it to run cooler than it does. If we end up with a hot Coffee Lake (mmm, hot coffee...) i7-8700K people are going to lose their minds, especially if it's due to poor TIM under the IHS yet again.

There's technically nothing wrong with Intel's response, and AMD also doesn't officially support (in the sense of warranty, as far as I know) overclocking, it's just irksome to OC enthusiasts.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Oh my...so awkward.

 

[Burpo]

We need a WFW forum section.

 

[DaveSimmons]

The 7700K is like the RX 580 GPU. It's already factory overclocked to get this year's speed increase.

 

[crashtech]

This suddenly made me wonder if cooler running might end up being the 7740K's reason for existence, if it is soldered like the rest of its LGA2066 big brothers.

 

[bullzz]

am i the only one who found the video funny

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Owners tell Intel "stop dicking around with crappily applied TIM and go back to indium solder"

 

[frozentundra123456]

Nothing new here.

 

[frozentundra123456]

It's not news, it's just i7-7700K users expressing their frustration because they expected it to run cooler than it does. If we end up with a hot Coffee Lake (mmm, hot coffee...) i7-8700K people are going to lose their minds, especially if it's due to poor TIM under the IHS yet again.

There's technically nothing wrong with Intel's response, and AMD also doesn't officially support (in the sense of warranty, as far as I know) overclocking, it's just irksome to OC enthusiasts.

Yep, pretty much as it always has been.

 

[waltchan]

The problem with newer processors is the die-shrink, and the smaller the nanometer size, the harder it is to overclock while maintaining high temperature. You didn't hear that news with Sandy Bridge before. It's also possible that new CPUs don't last as long as the old ones.

 

[Ken g6]

My 6700 non-k can't maintain 3.7ghz on prime 95 without throttling, even on a copper-core Intel heat sink. I have to throttle it down to 3.3 to maintain a healthy temperature.

 

[Bouowmx]

I had an opportunity to use Intel Core i7-7700 and frequency was maintained at 4 GHz with Prime95 small FFT and FurMark running. Total processor power was 100 W*, temperature was 100 C, and the thermal solution was the stock one running 100% fan speed (I think), with Gelid GC-Extreme thermal interface material.

* Power limit had to be modified from standard 65 W, in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.

 

[bononos]

My 6700 non-k can't maintain 3.7ghz on prime 95 without throttling, even on a copper-core Intel heat sink. I have to throttle it down to 3.3 to maintain a healthy temperature.

3.7 (up to 4Ghz) is the turbo speed for 6700nonk so prime95 with multiple workers wouldn't normally be running at that turbo speed, right?