Question Intel to amd = more crashes?

[Shmee]

Just crashed now after almost finishing loading windows, i've had a few ssd's other than adata and the issue still persisted between all of them.

Based on this info, your problem is very likely unstable RAM, though it could also be drive related. I would run memtest86 for starters, I suspect you will find a bunch of errors on that corsair kit.

 

[VirtualLarry]

It seems like there's a LOT of iffy flash media floating around. I try to stick to Intel for NVMe. Not the fastest, but man, do they last.

 

[Torn Mind]

Can you try a WD, Crucial, or TeamGroup? I've had REALLY bad luck with Adata flash drives, and also Adata M.2 SSDs.

I wouldn't trust Team that much. At least their $2.99 USB sticks might be flaky. I pulled out a cheapo USB 3.1 Micro Center 128GB, and boom, the install went perfectly.

ImageUSB(I think?) verifies an ISO and it failed verification. I was actually installing Windows 7 recovery for a T430 and downloaded a Polish image from archive.org. Rufus or the official Windows tool does not apparently do such a verification.

The whole ordeal got me searching for the fastest USB sticks...Sandisk Extreme Pro being one of the lines.

 

[Torn Mind]

It seems like there's a LOT of iffy flash media floating around. I try to stick to Intel for NVMe. Not the fastest, but man, do they last.

They still sell them as Intel but SK Hynix owns them now. So an Intel or a Solidgm are the same company.

 

[igor_kavinski]

It seems like there's a LOT of iffy flash media floating around. I try to stick to Intel for NVMe. Not the fastest, but man, do they last.

Yeah, I bet they were the only ones who tested their SSD reliability in a particle accelerator!

 

[Tech Junky]

Sandisk Extreme Pro

These are unique as you can run windows from them since they show up like an internal SSD. I think I clocked the speed somewhere around 400MB/s when using it. Not bad for a $50 USB drive.

 

[shabby]

Based on this info, your problem is very likely unstable RAM, though it could also be drive related. I would run memtest86 for starters, I suspect you will find a bunch of errors on that corsair kit.

Got this within the first minute... how bad can it be? lol
I'll run the whole test overnight

I looked for CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 on the qvl https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...sk_qvl/?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI and could only find it on the 5000 g-series list not the regular 5000 series list

 

[Markfw]

Got this within the first minute... how bad can it be? lol
I'll run the whole test overnight

I looked for CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 on the qvl https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...sk_qvl/?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI and could only find it on the 5000 g-series list not the regular 5000 series list

I think we have identified your problem....

Just personal opinion, but Gskill memory has done very well for me with 3000,5000 and 7000 series systems/motherboard.

 

[shabby]

Honestly having trouble finding qvl approved memory, i found a few 2x16gb ones but they're double even triple the price of regular 3200mhz 2x16gb sticks, only half way down the list but still, maybe i'll have to look for 4x8gb or something.
Btw is that memtest error due to the qvl compatibility or a memory issue? Warranty?

 

[shabby]

These are the only reasonably priced 2x16gb sticks i could find locally and in stock, most of the g.skill sets were 200cad.

Amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

 

[Markfw]

Honestly having trouble finding qvl approved memory, i found a few 2x16gb ones but they're double even triple the price of regular 3200mhz 2x16gb sticks, only half way down the list but still, maybe i'll have to look for 4x8gb or something.
Btw is that memtest error due to the qvl compatibility or a memory issue? Warranty?

I have that exact motherboard. QVL or not, I have nothing but Gskill 3200 CL14 or 3600 CL 16 in every one ! This motherboard is not in the below pics, but The mempory could have come out of it.

 

[Markfw]

These are the only reasonably priced 2x16gb sticks i could find locally and in stock, most of the g.skill sets were 200cad.

Amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

Amazon.ca

www.amazon.ca

This was $130-$140

Amazon.ca

 

[Tech Junky]

qvl

Doesn't mean much. It's just a list of what they test that they have on hand at the time of production.

I aim for 16/32GB per system and just a name I recognize. If there's an issue it's like everything else PC related and will either work or fail in the first few days of power up typically.

Don't put much weight into the QVL or other BS companies use. There's a reason for standards.

Things that have gotten murky though are the power levels of the RAM vs MOBO specs. Just double check the specs of both and make sure they're both the same aka 1.35V or 1.1V or whatever is listed for them. While the RAM test shows an indicator of an issue I've never tested RAM on any system in the past couple of decades. A BSOD isn't always a death sentence due to what you "think" is the issue vs something dumb happening in the background regardless of the event viewer indicating one thing and turning out to be another.

For instance one laptop I had would spontaneously reboot and I couldn't figure it our regardless of trying different things and even replacing the power brick because it seemed / pointed to being a power issue in logs and such. Well, I tried booting into Linux on a live USB to rule out the OS i.e. Windows. Well, low and behold the laptop worked fine for days when the issue in windows happened several times a day in windows. Turned out after messing around with the stability issue for over a month it was an Intel driver causing the issue.. Try different things before spending more $$ on RAM /PSU / etc.

 

[Markfw]

Doesn't mean much. It's just a list of what they test that they have on hand at the time of production.

I aim for 16/32GB per system and just a name I recognize. If there's an issue it's like everything else PC related and will either work or fail in the first few days of power up typically.

Don't put much weight into the QVL or other BS companies use. There's a reason for standards.

One thing I really agree with. And at this point there are a lot of users, even with that motherboard that have ram that just works. Go with that more than the QVL.

Also, since you are referencing amazon, isn't their return policy in Canada as good as it is in the US ? As others have said, within a few days, you will know if it fixes your problem. If not return it and try another set that has been recommended,.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Got this within the first minute... how bad can it be? lol
I'll run the whole test overnight

Don't see the point. Your RAM isn't happy with your mobo. My Corsair RAM passed Windows Memory Test on a Dell PC and was rock solid. Just not with my Gigabyte mobo. So it's probably just incompatibility and not defective RAM. You could sell it or give it to some friend with a Dell PC.

 

[mindless1]

While the RAM test shows an indicator of an issue I've never tested RAM on any system in the past couple of decades.

Seriously? I always test ram with at least memtest86 on a new/changed build, before bothering to do an OS install, or any time slot position, frequency, timings, bios version, etc, are changed, never installing or booting windows before memtest86. Otherwise, file corruption can happen SO easily.

Granted, I just got into the habit of it. Used to be, with a new build, first thing I did was see how high it might o'c, then back it down a notch. The faster hardware got, the less I felt like I needed to push it.
#thethrillisgone

 

[igor_kavinski]

Seriously?

I'm the same way. I'm too impatient to wait for the RAM test to complete so just install Windows and do plenty of stability testing with benchmarks etc. Won't trust it with anything critical unless it passes my battery of tests, which usually doesn't include an overnight RAM test. I guess I'm lucky or bad RAM is just rare.

 

[Thunder 57]

Got this within the first minute... how bad can it be? lol
I'll run the whole test overnight

I looked for CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 on the qvl https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...sk_qvl/?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI and could only find it on the 5000 g-series list not the regular 5000 series list

I wouldn't worry so much about the QVL list. 16GB sticks weren't around or at least none on the QVL list for my motherboard and I got some and they work fine. I usually go with G.Skill but figured I'd give Teamgroup a shot since they had good reviews and were a decent bit cheaper. I have had no issues and they complete memtest86 without any issues. May as well go for 3600MT/s as well since the cost basically no more than 3200 these days.

Amazon.com

 

[Tech Junky]

Teamgroup

I've been using them for years on various systems as they tend to be cheaper and just as effective as any other brand. Now I just focus on speed / capacity / price. On my rebuild I got 32gb 5200 DDR 5 for $75 on micron sticks. Which isn't bad considering 16gb at DDR 5 launch was $130 not so long ago if you could get them for MSRP. 16 would've been $55 so $20 more just made sense.

As to to @shabby test with Linux and if you're not ready to jump to replacing the mobo pick up an hba and move off the board ports to rule out the board.

 

[Shmee]

Looks like you got flaky RAM. I would try an RMA, Corsair should have lifetime warranty.

 

[Thunder 57]

Looks like you got flaky RAM. I would try an RMA, Corsair should have lifetime warranty.

Good point. I one time had to RMA G.Skill memory. It had a lifetime warranty and it was super easy.

 

[mmaenpaa]

Got this within the first minute... how bad can it be? lol
I'll run the whole test overnight

I looked for CMK32GX4M2B3200C16 on the qvl https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...sk_qvl/?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI and could only find it on the 5000 g-series list not the regular 5000 series list

I would first test memory at SPD speed (which seems to be 2133MHz).
If it passes then maybe you could try clocking down a bit, say to 3000MHz, or relax settings from CL16 to CL18 etc.
(EDIT : added SPD suggestion)

 

[Thunder 57]

I would first test memory at SPD speed (which seems to be 2133MHz).
If it passes then maybe you could try clocking down a bit, say to 3000MHz, or relax settings from CL16 to CL18 etc.
(EDIT : added SPD suggestion)

Based on the photo, it appears it was running at 2133 all along. Maybe the OP didn't set XMP?

 

[Shmee]

Based on the photo, it appears it was running at 2133 all along. Maybe the OP didn't set XMP?

That's possible, or it could be that memtest86 is just not detecting the actual speed. In the past, I have seen it read the XMP or SPD, but not the actual settings the RAM was at. For instance, reading DDR4 3200 on my Gskill when I had it set to DDR4 3733, etc.

 

[JoeRambo]

Based on the photo, it appears it was running at 2133 all along. Maybe the OP didn't set XMP?

Welcome to AMD lol. I had ( and still do ) Gigabyte* X570 + 5950x that did just that, randomly like once a quarter it would come up after Windows Update forced reboot like that, with lovely 2133mhz DRAM instead of 3600C16 i have intended it to run on.
It got better with newer BIOS'ed, and i've even lowered RAM speed to 3466, but was really solved by 7950x taking over frontline duties and relegating Z3 to Linux duties that never reboots. "Solution" of sorts.

Of course when 2133 JEDEC timings are still not stable, it points to serious problems with CPU/MB/RAM ( I'd start with RAM ).

* Gigabyte has that lovely dual BIOS stuff that is good idea, but loves to switch for no reasons, so could have been Gigabyte specific.