Intel to release 3.4C and 3.4EE 1Q 2004

[Acanthus]

discuss

 

[Regs]

Another CPU I cannot afford? A turbo charger for my car is looking more attractive for it's price then the 3.4C or EE.

 

[InlineFive]

Why are they trying to pursue a doomed model family? Perhaps Prescott is having fabbing problems...

Anyway, no one will purchase these if they know what they are doing.

-Por

 

[andreasl]

The 3.4C will simply get the same price as the 3.2C has (before their latest price cut I guess). The P4 3-4EE however, anyone care to guess what price it will sell at?

Intel has been VERY consistent in their P4 prices since several years back. They have price brackets for each speedgrade, and when they cut prices the processor simply moves down one bracket. But it will be interesting to see if they do the same thing with the EE.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Why are they trying to pursue a doomed model family?
-Por

I wouldn't call the northwoods doomed. I think you ment pretentious or pompous.

 

[randumb]

I wonder much will the 3.4EE cost. I'm guessing more than my whole rig right now.

 

[Lyfer]

Looks good. New cpu's = lower prices on yesterday's top of the line model.



Hopefully this will bring the 2.4C to under $100.

 

[Peter D]

With news of the 3.4EE, it almost makes the 3.2 look good. Its actually an improvement over the standard P4, the 3.4 just has a higher clock that I know of..

 

[Sid59]

looks like a certain company is scrambling.

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
Looks good. New cpu's = lower prices on yesterday's top of the line model.



Hopefully this will bring the 2.4C to under $100.

it is @ $178 right now

the price has actually gone up since i bought one which was about $170 which was early august

you can keep hoping

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: Sid59
looks like a certain company is scrambling.

Highly doubtfull.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Originally posted by: mchammer187

Originally posted by: Lyfer
Looks good. New cpu's = lower prices on yesterday's top of the line model.



Hopefully this will bring the 2.4C to under $100.

it is @ $178 right now

the price has actually gone up since i bought one which was about $170 which was early august

you can keep hoping

The 2.6C took its place as the lowest priced P4-C. The 2.4C price didn't drop, they'll stop making them soon. (if they haven't already)

Same thing will happen when 3.4 is released; 2.8C will drop and 2.6C will stay the same and disappear.

 

[Adul]

it's wishful thinking if you expect intel to drop a non budget model CPU below a 150 bucks. That is pretty much the lowest they will go before phasing out that processor.

 

[ai42]

it's wishful thinking if you expect Intel to drop a non budget model CPU below a 150 bucks. That is pretty much the lowest they will go before phasing out that processor.

Ditto.
Honestly we all know that the 3.2EE (and apparently) 3.4EE are just a hold over for Intel to say they are still on top of the CPU battle (which they are in some tests). Most everyone on this board is not going to be fooled into forking over a grand for a CPU. However, there are people with money who are willing to pay for the best because it has a really big number and there is nothing faster. P5 is coming and we all know it and certainly if they are going to really release this in a quarter or two I'm sure they've figured out most if any fabrication problems. I am willing to bet that Intel is just waiting to build more stock and or build up some huge marketing campaign.

Now what I want to know is why Intel dosen't drop Pentium M prices a bit, if you look at the die size compared to pretty much everything else it is theoretically the cheapest processor to build.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ai42
P5 is coming

Isnt Prescott going to be the Pentium 4-D?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Sid59
looks like a certain company is scrambling.

scrambling for/from what oh wise one?

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Sid59
looks like a certain company is scrambling.

Thats laughable at best. AMD isnt exactly selling its 64bit CPUs like hot cakes.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: ai42
P5 is coming

Isnt Prescott going to be the Pentium 4-D?

Internally Prescott was called a Pentium 5 at one point. But I think they will be sticking with the P4 name, for now.

 

[Rectalfier]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Sid59
looks like a certain company is scrambling.

Thats laughable at best. AMD isnt exactly selling its 64bit CPUs like hot cakes.

According the shortage, they are selling all that they can produce. They either didn'texpect this type of demand, or they are having problems keeping yields up. Either way, those cakes are sold right off the pan..... hot.

Intel may not be scrambling, but they had originally planned to have Prescot out by now.

 

[jbond04]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: ai42
P5 is coming

Isnt Prescott going to be the Pentium 4-D?

Internally Prescott was called a Pentium 5 at one point. But I think they will be sticking with the P4 name, for now.

I think it will be called the Pentium 4 with SSE 3

 

[Elcs]

I bat for the side that most of us should do. I'll side with any company that provides me with quality and stability at a low price when I want it.

AMD did it for me around months back. Got my 1700+ and currently about to stress test it at 215 x 10. Id honestly say that I havent looked at Intel prices here in the UK but I know that I could shove together a nice Barton 2500+ system for a reasonable price and Id be happy.

I have no desire to follow AMD into the 64 Bit market at the minute. They are producing a chip that is 'roughly' equal to its Intel competition in 32 Bit applications and as far as I can see, there arent enough programs accessing the 64 Bit side of the AMD proc to justify one for myself. As with any processor, unless you are very good and very lucky, the perfect chip wont come out first time. Look at a Palomino compared to the latest Thoroughbreds. 1.75V Vs. 1.45V? 0.18 micron Vs. 0.13 micron? It took AMD quite a while to mature its XP.... If Intel's EE produces a gap in performance over the P4 C that is worth considering, then AMD might struggle with an immature chipset and an immature chip.

Intel are just looking over their shoulder. Unless a miracle (or disaster) happens, AMD will pose a threat but not be life threatening to Intel in the near future IMO. AMD has started itself on the journey of 1000 miles, and they started off on the right foot. Problem is, they are carrying the dead weight of 64 Bit computing until it gets off the ground.

 

[IncredibleHutch]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Why are they trying to pursue a doomed model family? Perhaps Prescott is having fabbing problems...

Anyway, no one will purchase these if they know what they are doing.

-Por

Psha... I will... P4 2.80 GHz 533MHz FSB 1MB L2 cache and SSE3 sounds plenty compatible with my laptop and currently all I have is a P4 2.53 GHz 533MHz FSB 512K L2 cache and SSE2

To me this sounds like the best CPU my laptop could use and it sounds like a cheap and easy way to upgrade a laptop without having to buy a new one.


looks like a certain company is scrambling.


How so... To me I'd just say it's about time they came out with some faster chips... Technology has always been on the move... It only seems right that something newer and better comes out regardless of who Intel is trying to compete against.


Now what I want to know is why Intel dosen't drop Pentium M prices a bit, if you look at the die size compared to pretty much everything else it is theoretically the cheapest processor to build.


It's very possible that it is the cheapest to build... but that doesn't mean that's what the price is based upon... Like said in another thread... the price of Banias is more than what it costs to make... There are research facilities to be paid for... research hours to be paid for... failed attempts... etc

 

[Chadder007]

If AMD could get Microsoft to help the 64bit initiative by maybe including a coupon or free upgrade to WindowsXP 64 when it comes out, im sure that would help push sales even more for the Athlon64.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
If AMD could get Microsoft to help the 64bit initiative by maybe including a coupon or free upgrade to WindowsXP 64 when it comes out, im sure that would help push sales even more for the Athlon64.

That would be enticing. No sarcasm, i would seriously consider A-FX over P4-EE if it came with a coupon for WindowsXP-64

 

[dnuggett]

Now what I want to know is why Intel dosen't drop Pentium M prices a bit, if you look at the die size compared to pretty much everything else it is theoretically the cheapest processor to build.

I don't know that I go as far as to say it's even theoretically cheaper. Less material does not mean cheaper. That being said, as it has already been mentioned there are alot of other costs to a chip besides actual production costs, including economies of scale. The other chips particularly the P4's that have been selling the most benefit from these scales the M does not.

When Dothan hits the shelves you will see a drop in Banias.. but not too much before then.