I think Apple has that market (parent-friendly PC) on lockdown now with Mac Mini. Especially since most of our mothers would be totally OK with the web or Mac versions of Office. And the new bundled version of Microsoft Solitaire feels slimy. There are better versions of Solitaire on the web now. And MacOS doesn't readd bloatware advertisements after each update.It's a shame, since some of the other mini PC manufacturers leave something to be desired regarding support.
I just got a NUC 12 with an i3 to replace a Haswell-era desktop my mom was using for the past who knows how many years. It's a great little box that frees up desk space for her, and provides more than enough computing power for her web browsing, Office, and solitaire needs.
My mom is very set in her ways, and was fine with the reskinned version that was in Windows 10 (and carried to W11). I've largely set the privacy settings on Windows to not bother her anyway.I think Apple has that market (parent-friendly PC) on lockdown now with Mac Mini. Especially since most of our mothers would be totally OK with the web or Mac versions of Office. And the new bundled version of Microsoft Solitaire feels slimy. There are better versions of Solitaire on the web now. And MacOS doesn't readd bloatware advertisements after each update.
Sounds like me and my nan who insists on buying iPhones and iPads over and over even though she has problems with them and not the Android phone I directed her to get and she eventually lost 😱😭😩My mom is very set in her ways, and was fine with the reskinned version that was in Windows 10 (and carried to W11). I've largely set the privacy settings on Windows to not bother her anyway.
I wouldn't dream of getting her a Mac, if only because she comes to me for computer support, and I just don't have any macs to work with to help her out when she runs into issues (and basically I have 0 experience in OSx).
Most Nuc are lowend to Midrange machine, Amd Apu cover mid to highend, those Amd lowend Apu are not good enough to compete with Intel offering.I'm inclined to wonder whether the rumors of AMD Sarlak/Strix Halo APU aren't responsible for this movement on Intel's side, as well as AMD's APU performance in general since Renoir.
As long as AMD weren't producing anything good enough to force OEMs to sit up and take notice they could sew up a brand new market - now with AMD executing really well on this front and possibly poised to bring a current gen console level APU to market next year I could see how they would rather try and scupper the market than try to compete.
Ironically now that they seem to be executing reasonably well with Xe dGPUs it does seem a bit strange to abandon the market right when they could best take advantage of it.
You say AMD APUs cover mid -> hi end, but then you say that AMD lo end APUs are not good enough to compete with Intel's offering.....Most Nuc are lowend to Midrange machine, Amd Apu cover mid to highend, those Amd lowend Apu are not good enough to compete with Intel offering.
Sounds like me and my nan who insists on buying iPhones and iPads over and over even though she has problems with them and not the Android phone I directed her to get and she eventually lost 😱😭😩
What i mean they dont have competitive cpu/Apu for lowend, price wise, Most Nuc use Celeron, Pentium, i3 and i5 etc Competitive Amd Apu are Ryzen 5, 7, 9 etc. Most Sold Nuc are Sub $400 or below most Sold Amd Mini pc are Sub $400 or above. So i dont see one replacing other, atleast this generation.You say AMD APUs cover mid -> hi end, but then you say that AMD lo end APUs are not good enough to compete with Intel's offering.....
What offering would that be exactly?
AMD APUs can scale the power (cTDP) budget to fit a target, so worst case you are talking about cost before AMD introduce their post Mendocino SKU.
Plus as you say INTEL offering.
Unlike Intel AMD do not actually make NUC designs themselves, they just make the chips and assist NUC type OEMs with design for the mobo spec.
I'd actually be interested to see AMD bring back a Project Quantum liquid cooled AIO style mini PC with their latest hardware - that was a very interesting concept introduced at the wrong time sadly 😅
Ah well, in the price wars Intel will always have the advantage as the established Chipzilla - that's not any kind of surprise there.What i mean they dont have competitive cpu/Apu for lowend, price wise, Most Nuc use Celeron, Pentium, i3 and i5 etc Competitive Amd Apu are Ryzen 5, 7, 9 etc. Most Sold Nuc are Sub $400 or below most Sold Amd Mini pc are Sub $400 or above. So i dont see one replacing other, atleast this generation.
I'd actually be interested to see AMD bring back a Project Quantum liquid cooled AIO style mini PC with their latest hardware - that was a very interesting concept introduced at the wrong time sadly 😅
I think that is a dedicated GPU in there with the CPU above it - seems like a single loop system feeding the whole thing?i actually had to google this because of how cool it sounded... (ignore the pun...)
AMD Quantum: Liquid Cooled Gaming | Mixer Design
Mixer delivered groundbreaking Industrial Design and a revolutionary cooling system to demonstrate the blazing speed of AMD’s Radeon graphic processors. This Virtual Reality PC showcases AMD’s brand leadership in graphics technology. Its unveiling at The Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los...mixerdesign.com
Is this what your talking about?
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That is actually so cool, almost on the line of being totally insane... But would need a way to attach a dedicated GPU like how the last gen ultra high end nuc's allowed.
Otherwise it would be best described as a "Super Ultra Console. XTX"
two Fury X GPUs
Whatever happened to the KFC Gaming PC? Did that ever release?