Intel to use AMD iGPU (Not sure if rumor or confirme)

Red Hawk

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...their source is a forum post by Kyle Bennett at HardOCP. Yep, let me get my salt shaker here, I need a grain...
 
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Glo.

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Graphics IP deal between Intel and Nvidia is going out soon. It was very long time ago rumored that Intel would switch from Nvidia to AMD.

There will be no AMD GPUs in Intel CPUs.
 

Dave2150

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Amazing news if true, will give AMD a massive financial boost in order for them to turn the tides on NVIDIA. Their market share will explode also (many Intel IGPU's in use on steam hardware survey etc!).

Fantastic
 

whm1974

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I for one seriously doubt this anywhere close to being true. For one, Intel has more then enough resources to improve their own iGPU technology.
 

Headfoot

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I cannot believe that this comes up every time. The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property. The current deal is set to expire on March, 2017 between Intel and Nvidia. It's all about avoiding lawsuits between these tech giants. Intel may license gfx patents from AMD from now on.
exactly
 

Red Hawk

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I cannot believe that this comes up every time. The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property. The current deal is set to expire on March, 2017 between Intel and Nvidia. It's all about avoiding lawsuits between these tech giants. Intel may license gfx patents from AMD from now on.
That makes more sense.
 

Cookie Monster

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I cannot believe that this comes up every time. The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property. The current deal is set to expire on March, 2017 between Intel and Nvidia. It's all about avoiding lawsuits between these tech giants. Intel may license gfx patents from AMD from now on.

Aren't patents intellectual property?
 
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ZippZ

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Amazing news if true, will give AMD a massive financial boost in order for them to turn the tides on NVIDIA. Their market share will explode also (many Intel IGPU's in use on steam hardware survey etc!).

Fantastic

I don't think the deal is worth as much as people expect. Nvidia got $1.5billion over 5 years as part of a settlement in a lawsuit. $500million over 5 years to AMD would be more realistic. Still money that AMD desperately needs.
 

Krteq

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Well, this could be related to these quite old reports

Intel’s François Piednoël has come to AMD’s defense regarding FreeSync, stating that once displays begin utilizing the eDP 1.3 (an upcoming DisplayPort standard), a free solution would indeed be possible thanks to the addition of frame storage capabilities...
TechGage - 2014

IDF — In a Q&A session this afternoon, I asked Intel Fellow and Chief Graphics Software Architect David Blythe about Intel's position on supporting the VESA Adaptive-Sync standard for variable refresh displays. (This is the standard perhaps better known as AMD's FreeSync.)

Blythe indicated that Intel is positively inclined toward standards-based solutions like Adaptive-Sync, and he said Intel does indeed plan to support this optional extension to the DisplayPort spec. However, Blythe wasn't yet willing to commit to a timetable for Intel enabling Adaptive-Sync support in its products.
TechReport - Intel plans to support VESA Adaptive-Sync displays

So, we should expect Adaptive-Sync/FreeSync implementation soon I guess.

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And Intel was interested in Mantle back in 2014, so they should be now able to improve their iGPUs for better Vulkan support
Intel confirms that they have approached AMD about access to their Mantle API. The discussion, despite being clearly labeled as "an experiment" by an Intel spokesperson, was initiated by them -- not AMD. According to AMD's Gaming Scientist, Richard Huddy, via PCWorld, AMD's response was, "Give us a month or two" and "we'll go into the 1.0 phase sometime this year" which only has about five months left in it. When the API reaches 1.0, anyone who wants to participate (including hardware vendors) will be granted access.
PcPer - Intel Shows Interest in Mantle?
 

railven

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Is this finally being confirmed? Remember reading an article about this a few months ago. Revived the hope that Intel would just buy AMD's GPU division/patents. DO IT INTEL!!! DO IIIITTTTT!!!
 

ElFenix

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I cannot believe that this comes up every time. The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property. The current deal is set to expire on March, 2017 between Intel and Nvidia. It's all about avoiding lawsuits between these tech giants. Intel may license gfx patents from AMD from now on.
Patents are intellectual property

Edit: I see this has been covered
 

BFG10K

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If true, this is good news. I've been saying for years AMD should be pursuing lucrative licensing deals.

nVidia charges for gsync, SLI, and got $1.5 billion from Intel.

$1.5 billion. That alone would cover AMD's losses for the last 1-2 years. Instead AMD stupidly handed over Mantle, freesync and HBM on a silver platter to competitors,

The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property.
They're the same thing. I suspect what you mean is that Intel won't be putting AMD GPUs inside their CPUs.
 

Valantar

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I very much doubt this - after all, if Intel has been designing iGPUs for years under the licence of an Nvidia patent deal, what says they'd be able to continue using the same designs under an AMD deal? Different patents cover different things/ideas/implementations, after all. You can't just pick an choose, you have to license what you actually need.
 

NTMBK

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I very much doubt this - after all, if Intel has been designing iGPUs for years under the licence of an Nvidia patent deal, what says they'd be able to continue using the same designs under an AMD deal? Different patents cover different things/ideas/implementations, after all. You can't just pick an choose, you have to license what you actually need.

It's more about providing a defensive shield. NVidia wouldn't be able to sue Intel without being counter-sued by AMD, ending up with a costly patent war that probably doesn't benefit anyone apart from the lawyers, and lots of invalidated patents. (Look at the mess that was the NVidia-Samsung lawsuit for example.)
 
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Valantar

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It's more about providing a defensive shield. NVidia wouldn't be able to sue Intel without being counter-sued by AMD, ending up with a costly patent war that probably doesn't benefit anyone apart from the lawyers, and lots of invalidated patents. (Look at the mess that was the NVidia-Samsung lawsuit for example.)
That's probably right to a certain extent, but specifics matter. Nvidia and AMD have cross-licensing deals too, after all. Intel would need to license patents relevant to their specific implementations, regardless of which company holds these. I very much doubt the cross-licensing deals allow for extending the patents to third parties, which almost necessitates deals with both companies - unless they realize that competition is healthy and decide not to be assholes (unless they spot obvious stealing).
 

ShintaiDK

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I cannot believe that this comes up every time. The licensing deal is about patents, not intellectual property. The current deal is set to expire on March, 2017 between Intel and Nvidia. It's all about avoiding lawsuits between these tech giants. Intel may license gfx patents from AMD from now on.

Intel isn't dumping Nvidia in terms of IP. It would also be impossible due to the product pipelines even if we imaged they did. Intel may simply license AMD IP as well as Nvidia to give its engineers and developers more freedom in terms of IP restrictions.
 

NTMBK

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Intel isn't dumping Nvidia in terms of IP. It would also be impossible due to the product pipelines even if we imaged they did. Intel may simply license AMD IP as well as Nvidia to give its engineers and developers more freedom in terms of IP restrictions.

We don't know what Intel will do; we'll have to wait and see.
 

ThatBuzzkiller

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True, there may not be any AMD licensing deal. But they cant dump Nvidia when they use their IP.

No such restrictions exist. Nvidia cannot retroactively take away Intel's access to their past IPs before the effective ending date ...
 
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