Intellectual Property issue on facebook last night

[Texashiker]

My step daughter gives birth to a baby girl last week.
Last weekend bunch of people come over to my house to take pics.
Some of the pics are posted on facebook.
This friend of a friend, 15 year old girl nobody in the family knows copies, edits and repost the images on facebook.
The person that took the pics and my wife make a big deal out of it.
Bunch of people blow up into a facebook drama fueled rage session last night.

What I do not understand, from the time I started school I was taught you can not copy other peoples work. Copyright protection should be basic grammar school stuff. But yet, people take images and use them with no regard given to the owner of the material.

Whatever happened to asking permission before you take someones property?

 

[manimal]

Its been too long since I was in high school. I cant relate.


I do think social media is the work of satan.

miroslav satan in his prime was a great goal scorer and killer of dreams.

 

[highland145]

Post in public, expect the public to use it.

 

[KeithTalent]

You're mad because they re-posted Facebook's property on Facebook?

KT

 

[lxskllr]

If you don't want your pictures in the wild, don't post them on facebook.

 

[waggy]

If you don't want your pictures in the wild, don't post them on facebook.

You're mad because they re-posted Facebook's property on Facebook?

KT

this

 

[Texashiker]

You're mad because they re-posted Facebook's property on Facebook?

KT

How do you figure the image belonged to facebook?

When you upload an image or video to a website like youtube or facebook, you grant the site non-exclusive rights to the material.

When you upload a video or image to a site, you do not release your Intellectual Property rights. You retain ownership of the material.

Post in public, expect the public to use it.

Where is your car or truck parked at right now? Is it where the public can see it? Would it be ok if someone took your car/suv/truck without permission?

 

[KeithP]

Could be a "fair use" situation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

It is hard to tell given the limited details. I am curious as to what privacy settings are being used on the Facebook account in question. Are they wide open?

-KeithP

 

[highland145]

When you upload a video or image to a site, you do not release your Intellectual Property rights. You retain ownership of the material.

^^
Apparently, you don't.

 

[WelshBloke]

Once you post them to a public sharing service aren't you giving up the rights to the photos?

 

[waggy]

How do you figure the image belonged to facebook?

When you upload an image or video to a website like youtube or facebook, you grant the site non-exclusive rights to the material.

When you upload a video or image to a site, you do not release your Intellectual Property rights. You retain ownership of the material.




Where is your car or truck parked at right now? Is it where the public can see it? Would it be ok if someone took your car/suv/truck without permission?

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.


they give the ability to others freely to use. others took it and posted. you allowed facebook that right and they gave it.

this is why you don't post what you don't want others to get or see

 

[lxskllr]

How do you figure the image belonged to facebook?

When you upload an image or video to a website like youtube or facebook, you grant the site non-exclusive rights to the material.

When you upload a video or image to a site, you do not release your Intellectual Property rights. You retain ownership of the material.




Where is your car or truck parked at right now? Is it where the public can see it? Would it be ok if someone took your car/suv/truck without permission?

When you publish content or information using the Public setting, it means that you are allowing everyone, including people off of Facebook, to access and use that information, and to associate it with you (i.e., your name and profile picture).

https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

You explicitly waived your rights. If you want control of your data, control it. Operate your own servers, using your own software. Alternatively, don't be a dick about it, and release your stuff under a permissive CC license. Culture expands when it's shared.

 

[purbeast0]

self pwnage of the year nominee?

 

[Ns1]

When you publish content or information using the Public setting, it means that you are allowing everyone, including people off of Facebook, to access and use that information, and to associate it with you (i.e., your name and profile picture).

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

 

[Texashiker]

https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

You explicitly waived your rights. If you want control of your data, control it. Operate your own servers, using your own software. Alternatively, don't be a dick about it, and release your stuff under a permissive CC license. Culture expands when it's shared.

How do you figure the photographer waved her rights?

For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.

There is nothing in the facebook terms of service that says you relinquish your property rights.

 

[Ns1]

There is nothing in the facebook terms of service that says you relinquish your property rights.

...

When you publish content or information using the Public setting, it means that you are allowing everyone, including people off of Facebook, to access and use that information, and to associate it with you (i.e., your name and profile picture).

 

[Phynaz]

Whatever happened to asking permission before you take someones property?

Welcome to the world of people feeling entitled to everything they can grab.

 

[lxskllr]

How do you figure the photographer waved her rights?




There is nothing in the facebook terms of service that says you relinquish your property rights.

Both me, and NS1 quoted the relevant section. Don't be dick. Share your data.

 

[Ns1]

Both me, and NS1 quoted the relevant section. Don't be dick. Share your data.

based on the language, I think it depends on the privacy setting when the post was created - public or something else.

 

[IronWing]

Plagiarism is basic to all culture.

- Pete Seeger's Dad

 

[Texashiker]

Both me, and NS1 quoted the relevant section. Don't be dick. Share your data.

There is nothing you linked to that allows users to redistribute Intellectual Property.

 

[waggy]

There is nothing you linked to that allows users to redistribute Intellectual Property.

WTF

"it means that you are allowing everyone, including people off of Facebook, to access and use that information"

that does it. right there. it allows people to take it and post it without asking.

 

[Ns1]

There is nothing you linked to that allows users to redistribute Intellectual Property.

How do you interpret this line?

use that information

 

[SMOGZINN]

Where is your car or truck parked at right now? Is it where the public can see it? Would it be ok if someone took your car/suv/truck without permission?

You have become a dupe of the IP Mafia. Data, like a digital copy of a picture, is not like a truck. This girl edited the photo and re-uploaded it, but you still have it. If she had taken your truck would you still have it?

Data is not an item.

 

[lxskllr]

There is nothing you linked to that allows users to redistribute Intellectual Property.

There seems to be a language issue here... "...access and use that information..." is pretty clear to me, but I don't live in Texas.