Intelligent Design vs Evolution

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ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: killface
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
This is going to get nasty!

:evil:

You get the brats, I'll bring the burgers.

Somebody else is in charge of beer and place settings.

Ugh. Why do 5 out of the first 10 replies have to always be some "witty" reference to how there is going to be a "flame war" of sorts. We get it. You're some sort of super genius who can see a debate coming from a mile down the road when religion or politics are involved.
Because after nearly a decade of flaming people for posting trollbait, we're tired of not getting anything in return. However if we use the flames to cook, then we can enjoy some food and still toast the bastard.
 

40sTheme

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Originally posted by: sao123
How about neither...

Its as simple as this folks...
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.


I dont need science to explain it... its all right there.

ding ding we have a winner
 

oldman420

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May 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: oldman420
I believe that evolution is the more proper theory and is a provable one vs intelligent design which is unprovable as god isn't talking yet.

How can you say such awful, terrible things? Every one is entitled to their opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone else's, how can you be so intolerant! Science provides only one kind of truth, and we must present all points of view!

Awfull? Terrible? so by your statement if it is my opinion that hitler was a man of the people that was protecting the jews does that make it a valid opinion?

does questioning something and placing it up for discussion make one a terrible person?
 

40sTheme

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Originally posted by: oldman420
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: oldman420
I believe that evolution is the more proper theory and is a provable one vs intelligent design which is unprovable as god isn't talking yet.

How can you say such awful, terrible things? Every one is entitled to their opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone else's, how can you be so intolerant! Science provides only one kind of truth, and we must present all points of view!

Awfull? Terrible? so by your statement if it is my opinion that hitler was a man of the people that was protecting the jews does that make it a valid opinion?

does questioning something and placing it up for discussion make one a terrible person?

I agree... he did not say anything terrible. He is entitled to his opinion, too... you've just backed yourself into a corner Martin.
 

Cooler

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What about pastarian views on the issues? Surly the FSM has insight on this topic.
 

Pacfanweb

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All this had to come from somewhere, and I think it's obvious that we are not capable of understanding where or what.

So my answer is I think someone/something intelligently designed evolution.
 

Gibsons

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Aug 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cooler
What about pastarian views on the issues? Surly the FSM has insight on this topic.
only if you follow the alfredo teachings.
 

homercles337

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Dec 29, 2004
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I dont think any "designer" could be as stupid as the one the RR/anti-science folks claim as the "designer."

Stupid is as stupid does i suppose.
 

Legend

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Evolution is science. Something that has massive amounts of evidence to back it up.

Intelligent Design is a political concept used to push evolution out of school because it doesn't fall in line with the literal interpretation of the Bible. For most Christians, Evolution is not in conflict with creationism.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Maybe we all the dreams of a really good video card with lots of idle cycles.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I'm an Idiot, and I can accept both...evolution happened like the evidence says, but Biblical creation also happened...My hypocrisy class cleared some things up for me...

Congrats on that hypocrisy... :roll: Does that work for you?
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Originally posted by: sao123
How about neither...

Its as simple as this folks...
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.


I dont need science to explain it... its all right there.

ding ding we have a winner

Ding, ding, ding, we have a hypocrite folks!
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Legend
Evolution is science. Something that has massive amounts of evidence to back it up.

Intelligent Design is a political concept used to push evolution out of school because it doesn't fall in line with the literal interpretation of the Bible. For most Christians, Evolution is not in conflict with creationism.

Most xians are hypocrites in their interpretation of new information. Great, we already knew that.
 

homercles337

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To clarify:

Belief based systems of knowledge acquisition IGNORE all evidence which contradicts their current understanding.

Empirical based systems of knowledge acquisition EMBRACE and search for all evidence which contradicts their current understanding.

Look up diametrical opposition in the dictionary, this is it.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Originally posted by: oldman420
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: oldman420
I believe that evolution is the more proper theory and is a provable one vs intelligent design which is unprovable as god isn't talking yet.

How can you say such awful, terrible things? Every one is entitled to their opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone else's, how can you be so intolerant! Science provides only one kind of truth, and we must present all points of view!

Awfull? Terrible? so by your statement if it is my opinion that hitler was a man of the people that was protecting the jews does that make it a valid opinion?

does questioning something and placing it up for discussion make one a terrible person?

I agree... he did not say anything terrible. He is entitled to his opinion, too... you've just backed yourself into a corner Martin.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion, but you cannot elevate your opinion above that of others by saying that one is more "proper" than the other. We must, after all, be mindful of the structuralism inherent in the grand metanarrative's hermeneutics.
 

JEDI

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Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: oldman420
I will agree that the creation of the universe and all that has followed is a profound mystery that as of yet has no definitive explanation, but I personally have a very hard time believing that there was some master being or intelligence that created it all. I think that thing are way too random to have such a concise explanation, to buy the intelligent design theory is to stop questing for further knowledge.

I believe that evolution is the more proper theory and is a provable one vs intelligent design which is unprovable as god isn't talking yet.

lets keep this flame free OK folks?

DISCUSS

Evolution is nature's Intelligent Design.

Darwin FTW!
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: mundane
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: mundane
Saw the thread title and expected DVK - oops, he was granted a vacation!

Link to thread?

"What would it take for you to admit that god isn't real"

Huh? Why was he given a vacation for that thread?! Yeah, it's a parody thread, but a 2week vacation??? (And i didnt think it was a bad parody.)

And the mods saying he's a troll for creating that thread?

What am i missing?!?
 

BD2003

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Oct 9, 1999
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I'm pretty impressed at how quickly this thread managed to turn into a personal flame war. Without any serious discussion on the topic.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: BD2003
I'm pretty impressed at how quickly this thread managed to turn into a personal flame war. Without any serious discussion on the topic.

Im pretty impressed by your lack of reading skills, yet you can type with no spelling errors.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: 40sTheme
Originally posted by: oldman420
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: oldman420
I believe that evolution is the more proper theory and is a provable one vs intelligent design which is unprovable as god isn't talking yet.

How can you say such awful, terrible things? Every one is entitled to their opinion, and everyone's opinion is just as valid as everyone else's, how can you be so intolerant! Science provides only one kind of truth, and we must present all points of view!

Awfull? Terrible? so by your statement if it is my opinion that hitler was a man of the people that was protecting the jews does that make it a valid opinion?

does questioning something and placing it up for discussion make one a terrible person?

I agree... he did not say anything terrible. He is entitled to his opinion, too... you've just backed yourself into a corner Martin.

i think you've both just fallen into his trap, actually.

just my opinion, however, and no more or less valid than any other
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN EVOLUTION/GOD FORUM FOR ALL THESE STUPID FVCKING POSTS.
 

Ronstang

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Intelligent design would be more plausible and believable if it was something that the religious people had always been claiming but it seems as science gathers more evidence of evolution the religious just all of a sudden claimed "intelligent design" to justify their beliefs. I don't know the real answer but watching everyone argue is at least entertaining. I guess it is nice to be someone who couldn't care less what the truth is on this issue even though I lean towards evolution.
 

BD2003

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: BD2003
I'm pretty impressed at how quickly this thread managed to turn into a personal flame war. Without any serious discussion on the topic.

Im pretty impressed by your lack of reading skills, yet you can type with no spelling errors.

I rest my case.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Kev
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN EVOLUTION/GOD FORUM FOR ALL THESE STUPID FVCKING POSTS.

You don't have to click on a thread. Let the idiots yell at each other. It can only bother you if you let it.
 
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