Intelligent design

[0roo0roo]

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[Toki]

to clarify my post before i make it, i was taught it and evolution in biology at school.
i think it does have a basis in science, i've heard some very good facts that support it, but i personally don't beleive all of them are valid. its impossible to go into depth without trying to brainwash. on that thought, i don't think it should be more than mentioned in school, but i don't think evolution should be put up as the only possibility. now to answer the second question after giving my opinion on the third, i do beleive in intelligent design. from a scientific point of veiw, i have not come across anything that conflicts the general theory, but have realised that its impossible to prove, so i dont try.

oh, and i think they should change P&N to P&N and Religion, im tired of all the flamebait threads.

 

[aidanjm]

sheer silliness

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Yossarian451
Why yes we should, I mean it is a valid ::huh:: scientific theory. Just ask these guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raelian . They have been right on the money all this time and without any mention of God.

Lets just see these bible thumpers support the teaching of the raelian beliefs in their class rooms and I will have no problems.

The Raelian's are basically recreating Egyptology/Emerald Tablet beliefs.

Scientifically it sounds plausable, however; no one knows how to copy a mind/memories [yet].

There is no debating cloning is not possible. Cow, chicken, human...it's really all the same once you get the method down. The problem with cloning is you don't get a copy of the mind.

Now I am not exactly how this would work from the point of view that you wake up the next day with a mind 30, 40, 100, 1000, 10000 years old but in a baby's body again...you'd have to teach the muscles/nerves and regain coordination. If you were very important you would need definite guarding.

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Hermes is an interesting read. Physically they exist whether you believe the writing on them or not. The interesting thing is they are made of an element not known to man (supposedly). I have not formed a belief to really what is real in this and what is not...much of other religions have equally bizarre and non-provable points. However, there is a lot to be said where several converge and overlap.

 

[Yossarian451]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Yossarian451
Why yes we should, I mean it is a valid ::huh:: scientific theory. Just ask these guys. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raelian . They have been right on the money all this time and without any mention of God.

Lets just see these bible thumpers support the teaching of the raelian beliefs in their class rooms and I will have no problems.

The Raelian's are basically recreating Egyptology/Emerald Tablet beliefs.

Scientifically it sounds plausable, however; no one knows how to copy a mind/memories [yet].

There is no debating cloning is not possible. Cow, chicken, human...it's really all the same once you get the method down. The problem with cloning is you don't get a copy of the mind.

Now I am not exactly how this would work from the point of view that you wake up the next day with a mind 30, 40, 100, 1000, 10000 years old but in a baby's body again...you'd have to teach the muscles/nerves and regain coordination. If you were very important you would need definite guarding.

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth/Hermes is an interesting read. Physically they exist whether you believe the writing on them or not. The interesting thing is they are made of an element not known to man (supposedly). I have not formed a belief to really what is real in this and what is not...much of other religions have equally bizarre and non-provable points. However, there is a lot to be said where several converge and overlap.

The point though is that we see these ides as absurd and many relgious people who vehemently support teaching the "Intellegent Design" theories would never allow you to change the concept of some powerful being to anything other than god. If we were to teach in a public school that it wasn't god but aliens from outerspace that created us they would cry afoul, but that is equally rediculus to force the concept of god on the masses if you maintain a separtaion of church and state. It should also be important for us to separate relgion and science when we teach our children. I am not saying that it is bad to believe in Intelegient Desgin I am just saying public funding should not go into relgious teachings.

 

[Powermoloch]

Knowledge is fruitfull and wonderful. And it should not be force on one's belief, let that person to decide how life began. For me, living beings can't just become super smart out of no where, there is always a "bam" involved.

 

[Cerb]

Religious viewpoint: it's definitely not a scientific theory, but I think you're polarizing it a bit much.

Yes.

No: I am assuming you mean in a science class, or other class that relies on known facts.

 

[EyeMWing]

There's nothing intelligent about what's been designed.

 

[0roo0roo]

meh...

oil concentrated in the middle east

/end thread

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
meh...

oil concentrated in the middle east

/end thread

:Q

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Yossarian451
The point though is that we see these ides as absurd and many relgious people who vehemently support teaching the "Intellegent Design" theories would never allow you to change the concept of some powerful being to anything other than god. If we were to teach in a public school that it wasn't god but aliens from outerspace that created us they would cry afoul, but that is equally rediculus to force the concept of god on the masses if you maintain a separtaion of church and state. It should also be important for us to separate relgion and science when we teach our children. I am not saying that it is bad to believe in Intelegient Desgin I am just saying public funding should not go into relgious teachings.

I am open minded to many things, especially those that have been perpetuated 1000's of years.

In my opinion, who cares if it's a God(s), alien, a bust of Hadyn, or a single cell one believes started it all.

Too many people get caught up on what to call things, what things should be named that they miss all the common points shared between one's 'disbeliefs'.

 

[Eeezee]

There should have been 3 options in the first part

What is your opinion on intelligent design?

its a load of bull

 

[Crazee]

Here is a good arguement for Intelligent Design

 

[Siva]

Originally posted by: Lorn
No, because it is not like evolution is taught in schools. At least in my experience in two completely different highschools, the entire subject is never talked about.

That's true. We had all of maybe 2 days of evolution study in my high school Biology class. I wonder if the people who voted to teach intelligent design in school are the same people who try and keep evolution out of it.

 

[Siva]

Originally posted by: Crazee
Here is a good arguement for Intelligent Design

That website is amazing. Must buy pirate mug...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Siva

Originally posted by: Crazee
Here is a good arguement for Intelligent Design

That website is amazing. Must buy pirate mug...

This mug holds coffee AND pisses off Jesus.

 

[chuckywang]

http://www.venganza.org/

 

[BurnItDwn]

I still am confused about one thing with the flying spaghetti monster.
As the numbef of pirates decreases, the temperature increases.

I thought since the pirates would be drinking rum and playing with fire, that the temperature would infact be proportional to the number of pirates rather then counter-proportional as seen on the chart. But, if it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster, then it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I still am confused about one thing with the flying spaghetti monster.
As the numbef of pirates decreases, the temperature increases.

I thought since the pirates would be drinking rum and playing with fire, that the temperature would infact be proportional to the number of pirates rather then counter-proportional as seen on the chart. But, if it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster, then it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster.

:thumbsup: Ramen!

 

[madworm]

Originally posted by: brunswickite
I accidently picked "its a valid scientific theory", I meant to pick "its a religious viewpoint"

vote two more times to counter the poll...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I still am confused about one thing with the flying spaghetti monster.
As the numbef of pirates decreases, the temperature increases.

I thought since the pirates would be drinking rum and playing with fire, that the temperature would infact be proportional to the number of pirates rather then counter-proportional as seen on the chart. But, if it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster, then it is the will of the Flying spaghetti monster.

we be fckin the wmin! *HAR*

 

[ElFenix]

i think this should be taught as well, has just as much scientific underpinning

 

[cjgallen]

Funny Comic

 

[kwjake]

Evolution doesn't even count as a theory.

 

[Crescent13]

Intellegent deisign is the only thing that can make sense. Here is a debate I had with somebody

Me: How was the universe created?
Chemicals and stuff
Me: And how were the chemicals created?
Science!
Me: and how was science created?
Uhhhhhhh