because some idiot is going to buy it crank down the heatsink crack it and complain on forums about how he got ripped off.
then he'll rma it and intel won't cover physical abuse and he'll complain even more.
so to skip all that they just won't not include one.
Interesting, never heard of that issue before.I think people forget those SBs that got cracked soldering and got extreme temperatures.
And that excuses this how, exactly? Quit shilling for Intel. The longer you and others stop holding them accountable, the more consumers get the shaft.Yeah right. The biggest cost cutting measure has been their lackluster research budget.
And that excuses this how, exactly? Quit shilling for Intel. The longer you and others stop holding them accountable, the more consumers get the shaft.
Hopefully there will be a delidding i3 thread when those overclocking motherboards finally become available for under $100.
That idiot would probably be me I think. How can you install a water block/HSF without the IHS? It distributes the load, and even then I'm surprised that CPU's don't crack more often even with the IHS. A lot of force goes onto the IHS from the heat sink screws. Maybe its best that there is a HUGE ASS GAP between the IHS and CPU to protect it from much prevalent overtightening noobery.
Rather than argue about TIM. It should be about why they dont sell an already delidded SKU. If you worry about temperatures you wont have the IHS on in the first place, solder or not.
This would be awesome, but you can't really blame Intel for not wanting to risk it. What I don't get is why no OEM or even mobo manufacturer wants to offer an option like this. Is there anything stopping MSI from offering a motherboard + delidded CPU + delid guard combo?
What do you suggest? A boycott? Class action lawsuit? Good luck with all that.
Is there a way to find out which AMD CPUs are TIM based?AMD went TIM for the same reason as Intel on its APUs. I can almost guarantee that Zen for example is TIM based too.
Is there a way to find out which AMD CPUs are TIM based?
That idiot would probably be me I think. How can you install a water block/HSF without the IHS? It distributes the load, and even then I'm surprised that CPU's don't crack more often even with the IHS. A lot of force goes onto the IHS from the heat sink screws. Maybe its best that there is a HUGE ASS GAP between the IHS and CPU to protect it from much prevalent overtightening noobery.
Thread seems to be gone. But that led me to another thread about delidding, which points out something interesting. Apparently, many single and dual-core chips older than Ivy had TIM. Including several Core 2 Duos. (They're listed in the "What to practice on" section.)
So if TIM has been there that long, why are people only complaining about it now?
The TIM isn't the issue, the gap between the IHS and the core has always been the issue.
The TIM isn't the issue, the gap between the IHS and the core has always been the issue.
Why don't they make sure it's closer?
Should be easy enough to make the IHS a bit lower.Just suck it up and buy the E line if it bothers you.
Probally cheaper.
Should be easy enough to make the IHS a bit lower.
Yeah right. The biggest cost cutting measure has been their lackluster research budget.