Speculating about Intel employees' sleeping habits is really not central here. But thanks for the observation.
Speculating about Intel employees' sleeping habits is really not central here. But thanks for the observation.Your welcome.. I'm sure intel won't lose any sleep over it..
This topic has a lot more votes than mine in favor of using something better than their polymer TIM. Refer to the poll.You know what it means.. intel couldn't care less about what YOU want them to use for TIM.. Boycott!
I believe that what Intel's customers want, including the people who voted in the poll, matters.And somehow you think your magic poll (which many refuse to even vote in) will somehow change things at intel? Interesting..
I doubt many investors are really tech savvy though.That's because times don't matter during your training runs. I doubt Intel investors would approve of a strategy of sandbagging for a couple years in the off chance AMD really starts pushing them again.
Approximately 80 people voted for solder.
How do you know this?how many of those 80 people is willing to coin up for solder on their non k cpu? not very many.
And somehow you think your magic poll (which many refuse to even vote in) will somehow change things at intel? Interesting..
Since you're so dissatisfied with intel and their TIM, might I suggest you boycott them, and not buy their product?
How is it dumb? I think the choice range is good and it shows a clear pattern.Why get your chonies in a bunch over a dumb poll?
That's probably true.I doubt many investors are really tech savvy though.
The poll results here indicate the opposite. Most people aren't enthusiasts who want to buy i7 parts in the first place. Average people don't need an i7. They will be just fine with an i5.I don't think it matters to most people whether it is an i3, i5 of i7. I believe the more meaningful line would be the "K" versions of the CPU's. Those are the ones trying to get more out of the CPU than stock clocks give, where heat is an issue.
The poll provides an option that closely supports that belief (the first one). However, most people did not choose it.I'd be willing to bet that pretty much the only people, with few exceptions, that would care about this are those with "K" series CPU's.
The poll results here indicate the opposite. Most people aren't enthusiasts who want to buy i7 parts in the first place. Average people don't need an i7. They will be just fine with an i5.
I don't think it's a great rebuttal to label the people who frequent this forum foolish. The poll has had 112 votes so far from people who frequent an enthusiasts' website's CPU subforum. People have said they are willing to pay a reasonable price increase to get efficient thermal transfer. I'm not sure there needs to be a rhetorical jump from that to hyperbole.If you had a poll that asked if people would like to have prices reduced by 50% with no downsides people would vote for that too.
That point has been rebutted already.You want solder? The enthusiast HEDT platform has that.
Then you're also posting contradictory sentences, like a previous poster did.You buy the mainstream platform, you get mainstream production methods. I'll go so far as to agree the K models should probably be given consideration for solder as there is a price premium above the standard models and they are specifically targeted at overclockers.
I don't think the thrust of this topic is that it's vital to have all non-i3 SKUs have solder. I voted for i7 parts. The most popular response, though, is that i5 and better parts should have solder. There is a case to be made for that, too, since regular people will be fine with the performance offered by an i3. Clearly the 61 votes in an enthusiasts' CPU subforum for that means there are a lot of people here who have an argument in favor of that response. I think the stronger segmentation argument, though, rests with using solder or a similarly high-performing TIM interface with i7 parts.However, there is no reason what so ever for this to even be a concern for non K models. They run at their intended speed within the thermal guidelines Intel has, 62C or 82C makes not one iota of difference.
There are a lot more reports of success than that one result, hence the very high level of interest in delidding (millions of hits for delidding topics in just one overclocking forum alone) and even the introduction of pricey delidding machines.Linus did a video on this a couple weeks ago, I think. Delidded a 6700k, put new thermal paste on it, but he only saw a couple degrees drop in temperatures. Certainly not worth doing....