Interesting fact about the CDC, they are funded in part by tobacco taxes that kill 1300 Americans every day

[sdifox]

Biden can not pock corn pops over rice krispies.....................

En anglaise s'il vous plait.

 

[pmv]

OP is stealing SlowSpyder's material.

 

[sdifox]

OP is stealing SlowSpyder's material.

Could just be an alt.

 

[pmv]

LOL go ahead and justify 500,000 deaths yearly as you advocate for free healthcare

We have free-at-the-point-of-use healthcare here. It's partly funded via tobacco taxes. This is often, not unreasonably, cited as a justification for the extra strain smokers put on the health budget. Indeed the cost to the health system is often cited as a justification for many 'sin taxes'.

What is your actual point? That nothing should be done about anything until smoking is made illegal?

 

[dank69]

What's the alternative here? NOT taxing cigarette companies? THAT will show them! Did OP think this through? Putin is disappointed in you, comrade.

 

[Zorba]

Federal and State Cigarette Excise Taxes --- United States, 1995--2009 (cdc.gov)

500,000 Americans die yearly because if the tobacco that funds the CDC.

Hmmm?

You have any links backing up the 500k number? That'd be around 20% of all US deaths, and would be about the total number of cancer and heart disease.

Also, this is proof that you're actually Slow...

 

[Perknose]

Federal and State Cigarette Excise Taxes --- United States, 1995--2009 (cdc.gov)

500,000 Americans die yearly because if the tobacco that funds the CDC.

Hmmm?

If people directly died from stupidity you'd be worm food, Sport.

But that's not important now. Under a recent Democratic initiative we have implemented here, anyone posting in P&N has their complete hardware configuration sent to our servers.

You and your precious bodily fluids have been logged and documented. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

 

[fskimospy]

LOL go ahead and justify 500,000 deaths yearly as you advocate for free healthcare

You realize cigarette taxes decrease deaths, right?

 

[IronWing]

Unfortunately smokers have families too

That doesn't deter the assholes from smoking because, you know, they're assholes.

 

[allisolm]

• 1300 die every day from smoke and no one gives a hoot. Yet when the same amount of people die of another thing the Earth is coming to an end and we must lockdown creating even more suicides.

• From WHO:
• "Tobacco taxes are the most cost-effective way to reduce tobacco use and health care costs, especially among youth and low-income people, while increasing revenue in many countries"

Also from WHO:
"Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives."

We give a hoot about both and and are taking the most effective ways to reduce the effects of each. I assume you are both not using tobacco and are using a mask in order to do your part.

 

[sdifox]

this is just modern indulgence...

Indulgence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Roger Wilco]

Imagine how many more people would die if tobacco wasn't taxed and the CDC had reduced funding.

 

[Greenman]

1300 die every day from smoke and no one gives a hoot. Yet when the same amount of people die of another thing the Earth is coming to an end and we must lockdown creating even more suicides.

And the CDC is still funded by tobacco taxes

Smoking isn't contagious.

 

[Entangled]

• From WHO:
• "Tobacco taxes are the most cost-effective way to reduce tobacco use and health care costs, especially among youth and low-income people, while increasing revenue in many countries"

Also from WHO:
"Masks are a key measure to suppress transmission and save lives."

We give a hoot about both and and are taking the most effective ways to reduce each. I assume you are both not using tobacco and are using a mask in order to do your part.

LOL I am in favor of a $1,000.00 dollar per cigarette tobacco tax.

Think you might quit?

 

[Perknose]

LOL I am in favor of a $1,000.00 dollar per cigarette tobacco tax.

So . . . you're IN FAVOR of overbearing big government, socialistic intrusion and higher taxes? Good to know, comrade!

Think you might quit?

We're not going anywhere. We're just hoping you might!

Ohhhh . . . you were referencing cigarettes?

 

[Entangled]

So . . . you're IN FAVOR of overbearing big government, socialistic intrusion and higher taxes? Good to know, comrade!



We're not going anywhere. We're just hoping you might!

Ohhhh . . . you were referencing cigarettes?

LOL the simpletons who voted for Biden want big government, I just do not want to pay any of the medical bills for those who destroy their health deliberately

Smokers should also be forced to pay 50,000 per year in medical insurance

But you keep inhaling, as this will not effect my 100 mile bike rides

 

[fskimospy]

LOL the simpletons who voted for Biden want big government, I just do not want to pay any of the medical bills for those who destroy their health deliberately

Smokers should also be forced to pay 50,000 per year in medical insurance

But you keep inhaling, as this will not effect my 100 mile bike rides

Effectively banning the sale of cigarettes sure sounds like big government to me.

What you really mean is you want big government for things you don't like, and small government for yourself.

 

[hal2kilo]

LOL go ahead and justify 500,000 deaths yearly as you advocate for free healthcare

I see we have new entertainment.

 

[ivwshane]

I see we have new entertainment.

He doesn’t even know what he’s arguing for. At least the other trolls knew what they wanted.

 

[Perknose]

But you keep inhaling, as this will not effect my 100 mile bike rides

I imagine you on a tiny kids trike festooned with Trump/Juliani 2024 stickers and flags, pedaling furiously around and around the block, sporting an idiot grin and believing you've winning the Tour de France.

So much winning!

 

[TheVrolok]

He doesn’t even know what he’s arguing for. At least the other trolls knew what they wanted.

Correction, they at least understood their assigned talking points.

This one won't last long once his QA department reviews his work.

 

[pmv]

LOL the simpletons who voted for Biden want big government, I just do not want to pay any of the medical bills for those who destroy their health deliberately

Smokers should also be forced to pay 50,000 per year in medical insurance

But you keep inhaling, as this will not effect my 100 mile bike rides

Well, you'd presumably be happy with the system here, then. The taxes paid by smokers - which make up 80-90% of the cost of cigarettes - easily pay for the cost they impose on the NHS. The cigarette manufacturers constantly complain about that level of taxation, but to me it seems a defensible approach to an intrinsically difficult problem - how a decent society should deal with self-harming behaviour (which is often not entirely voluntary or down to individual choices - addictions and the like have social causes).

 

[Vic]

What you really mean is you want big government for things you don't like, and small government for yourself.

Which is the best possible definition of modern American conservatism I can think of.

 

[Entangled]

Well, you'd presumably be happy with the system here, then. The taxes paid by smokers - which make up 80-90% of the cost of cigarettes - easily pay for the cost they impose on the NHS. The cigarette manufacturers constantly complain about that level of taxation, but to me it seems a defensible approach to an intrinsically difficult problem - how a decent society should deal with self-harming behaviour (which is often not entirely voluntary or down to individual choices - addictions and the like have social causes).

I would be happy if people were did not mutilate their bodies and lungs. Furthermore the taxes paid by smokers constitute nothing but 0.001 seconds of federal spending

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time (usdebtclock.org)

 

[Entangled]

I imagine you on a tiny kids trike festooned with Trump/Juliani 2024 stickers and flags, pedaling furiously around and around the block, sporting an idiot grin and believing you've winning the Tour de France.

So much winning!

No, Specialized Alloy and Carbon endurance model

You wanna tag along with your cigarettes