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Gilby

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Originally posted by: cooliodealio

Yes, you should be worried. Thanks to products like this, crooks will flock to these so they can avoid making NOISE by breaking down doors and windows. That site should be ashamed of itself for selling such a product. Anything for a buck I guess.

Ate a lot of paint chips as a child?
 

zikronix

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you have better odds of getting ripped off by some one coding you garage door opener than some one picking your lock...I guess hammers shouldnt be allowed either because I can remove the pin from the hinges...idiot.
 

TheGizmo

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is this a decent kit for door locks and deadbolts? i work at a motel and have been looking for something to waste my time.. might as well learn to pick locks; it could come in handy here.
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: cooliodealio
Originally posted by: gnef
and seriously, you shouldn't be worried about someone that is going to try to break in to your house. They won't be picking the lock for sure. think more like broken lock/window/door jam. much faster and easier. it takes a significant more time to try to pick a lock than to forcibly break in to a house, unless you compare to the locksmiths who can key the whole length of one pin tumbler in one strike on the pins... but then i don't think they would be the type to break in to your house.

Yes, you should be worried. Thanks to products like this, crooks will flock to these so they can avoid making NOISE by breaking down doors and windows. That site should be ashamed of itself for selling such a product. Anything for a buck I guess.

Hmm. Lots of noise and broken windows, PLUS stolen stuff,

-OR-

Just stolen stuff.

I think you should be thanking them. For all you know, your home might not have any windows left if it weren't for products like this.

 

esoteric0

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everybody just ignore cooliodealio. he's just an attention whore, always trying to start flame wars. ignore him and he'll go away.
 

whyywhy

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"Lock-picking skills are not particularly common among burglars, mainly because there are so many other, simpler ways of breaking into a house (throwing a brick through a back window, for example). For the most part, only intruders who need to cover their tracks, such as spies and detectives, will bother to pick a lock. "

Nuff said...
 

Teego

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I am in agrement with most others here, these lockpicks will not increase any robbery rates any time soon. I could maybe see teenagers getting them and trying them out, mostly for entertainment.

They can be construed as illegal to carry. If you are walking down the street and a ploice officer stopeed you and found you carrying them, it can be considered sufficient evidence for intent. (Then again a flashilight and a hammer also can be viewed this away as well)

If this kind of stuff makes you paranoid, then get a security service like ADT. At least then you'll know within minutes that your stuff was stolen instead of hours later
 

STotaro

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if you want an idea for lockpicking and how easy it can be take a paperclip and bend the middle bend out from a U to an L shape.

Take the small side of the two remaining Us and find a file cabinet lock or in my neighborhood, each cluster of houses has on big box with seperate locking mailboxes. Even the smaller locks that go on luggage open REALLY easily.

jiggle the paperclip in and out and up and down while putting some sidways pressure in the direction the lock turns. dont use much pressure on the turning motion, focus on the jiggling. it will trun easily when you get it. if that doesnt get it, bend the open end of the looped back U and close it so it is in a long loop. rake it again.

I can open most of these small locks in less than a minute with either a large or small paperclip.

cheap rotating dial type of combination locks you can hit the top of the combination dial with a downward motion with a hard soled dress shoe or other hard object that you can get some leverage with. not master locks but the cheap ones that probably most of the crew that shops hot deals here would buy at the checkout line in the grocery or drug store.

the type of lock that looks like a pad lock but has a combination but not a dial is pretty fun and challenging to open. it just has three wheels that turn. pull on the lock and turn each wheel. the wheel that is hardest to move is the one to start with. turn it until you feel that somehow it feels different or gets stuck. then the next wheel that was easy to turn will now be more difficult. do the same with that and finally on the 3rd wheel the lock will open. it is alot harder than it seems. alot of zen with this type of lock but i can usually get them in a couple of minutes. to change the combination on this type of lock, turn the U part of the lock around 180 degrees and push down on it, then change the combination.

the same type of lock as above is often found on briefcases. from the handle side of the lock insert a small flat piece of metal under the latch. it has to be at a sligh angle and push it in and out adjusting the angle. the latch will pop open. takes about one minute for both sides. of course you could just force it with a screwdriver but if you use the above method, you can close the case and nobody will be aware that it was opened. just in case, remember what the combination was set to before you started and set it back to that when you are finished. also for this type of lock, if you want to change the combination, while on the correct combination, push the release switch twards the center handle and change the numbers. when you let go of the switch this is the new combination.

i have used all of the above for lost keys to furniture, file cabinets, used stuff that does not come with a key and... also its good to see just how unsecure things really are around the office. show people this at your own risk, while it is really easy, i have gotten funny looks from supervisors when i say allow me and open their "secure" cabinet and files in under a minute when they lose their keys.

most crimes and break-ins are crimes of opportunity. the door is left unlocked or keys are under a mat or in ignition. a simple locked lock will deter most thieves unless they are aware that you have something worth the hassle, they will just try a handle and if it is locked they will move to an easier target.

 

mindless1

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i have gotten funny looks from supervisors when i say allow me and open their "secure" cabinet and files in under a minute...

I'd imagine so, they're probably less trusting of you as a result, mixied with appreciation that you opened it for them. In the long term it's probably better if you didn't "help" them like that.

While all of the easier locks can be picked as you wrote, most of those are also fairly easy to open with a very large screwdriver. The key thing the typical thief does not want to do is spend a lot of time... even if they had to break a window, if they got in before anyone had a chance to see what the noise was, they're better off than someone seeing them picking a lock.

All this is an aside though, these are meant more as a knock-off of learning tools for those who want to get into the locksmith trade. I doubt these tools in this $24 kit are particularly special and one could get a book at the library if they wanted to pursue this. When it comes to microtools, metal and manufacturing means alot, I don't know that I'd be wanting to use or depend on these for a trade or as a burglar.
 

TestGuyCT

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I remember this article from a year ago in Network World magazine. Apparently lock picking is a popular pastime among some IT people ...

Article
 

STotaro

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i am an IT guy and i took a natural interest/talent to/for it. i think it is more appealing to hacker types although it is a basic system and IT guys like to understand and manipulate systems.
 
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