Interesting new ergonomic chair

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Kaido

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+$550 in 2 years? Seems rather steep for a chair.

Very steep! We'll see how the ergonomics do. For reference, the Aeron chair, designed in 1992, is still selling for over $1,000 new:


Supposedly this is a better chair, ergonomically-speaking. I'm not doing nearly as many on-site customer visits these days & am sitting for hours at a time & am really starting to feel it. Hopefully this will be worth the investment!
 

Kaido

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Their FAQ has someone asking why they hurt more with the chair, and the answer begins, 'this is normal!'

I can see why. Quick review:

1. Got the chair in. Took longer to unbox than it did to assemble. Whoever designed the assembly procedure for this chair did a great job: slap the wheels on, flip & drop the lift pole in the base, screw on the bottom plate to the chair (4 screws, ergonomic tool included, very easy), then clip on the back...DONE!

2. If you've ever used a chair with lumbar support, particular active lumbar support that "inflates" or deflates in a car seat, this is sort of what it feels like - minus the rest of the chair. The cupping part is smaller than normal & you're supposed to scoot all the way back into it. It feels like wearing some sort of high-water Steve Erkel-style stiff underwear. It's not...pleasant. It does force you to sit a certain way, although you can certainly slump forward still, so if you want true ergonomics, you need to sit up & then roll your shoulders back. I'll have to see what the comfort level is like long-term, based on what they say about developing the muscles for it. Feels like it cuts off my breathing a little bit lol.

3. It's sort of designed like a drafting chair. You get a lot of swivel & movement. Movement includes:

1 - Left & right spinning
2 - Tilting back at an angle (if you unlock the height adjustment lever)
3 - Height adjustment (via lever under right side of chair
4 - Forward & back gliding, which has a greater effect when you lean back
5 - Can flip up arm rests for an open-style chair

4. The back is not designed to be sat on normally. It's more to be used when you're leaning back. No headrest included for that reason. You have to actively lean back after releasing the tilt lever underneath the chair, and then hold it in the back position. I don't know how much I'll be using this, as it takes work to push back. There are kind of 3 modes:

1 - Sitting up straight. You can sit up straight (roll your shoulders back), sort of slump your shoulders forward, or lean forward on your desk, but your lower back is still supported any way you sit.
2 - Leaned back somewhat, especially with your feet supported on a cushion like I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW42KNK
3 - Fully leaned back. This feels like "comtemplating life" mode, lol.

How effective it is remains to be seen. I can tell you that my body already likes it more than the cheapo office chair I was using. I slouch quite a bit & sit in funny poor-posture ways (RIP my spine) & this chair kind of has no chill for that haha. It definitely makes me feel more...engaged in using the computer because I'm kind of sitting in the "ready position". It really is quite a bit change from the way I normally sit; I'm going to have to see if I can get used to it. So far, my back does not hurt on it. What they said in the FAQ about hurting initially is true because I'm sitting in a way I don't normally sit & using muscles I'm not normally using. They recommend giving your body a 10-day break-in period & then they have a 60-day return policy, which seems pretty generous. Note that this chair is not for everyone:

1. Max 275 pounds
2. Max 6'1" tall
3. Minimum 4.96' tall

I'm still trying to figure out their marketing story (or rather, lack of large-scale marketing). Their kickstarter asked for $100k & they made well over $500k. They had a huge amount of celebrity endorsers, although they looked to be recorded on something like a 720p webcam. Based on the videos, this seems like the legit answer to the human sitting issue. Sitting is supposedly pretty bad for you:


Because I'm sitting more now due to my career shift & COVID scheduling, I've been feeling the need for a better chair lately, especially as some days call for upwards of 14 hours in front of the computer. So hopefully it's not a gimmick & actually does the trick, especially for the price! If this thing is anywhere near advertised, then it should absolutely be the standard for businesses that involves employees who sit at desks & meetings and for anyone who has to sit for extended periods of time at home. I'm not really sure why this isn't being marketed more. Their Instagram & Youtube pages are pretty dead, although the Facebook page is semi-regularly updated from Morocco.

Granted, sometimes smaller companies that have really good ideas, especially well-designed ideas that really solve the problem in a home-run kind of way, simply don't have the budget or expertise for large-scale marketing, sort of like IIFYM or the GG Oven. I love life-changing stuff that eradicates the problem, and I'm hoping this chair is the ticket! Wish I had jumped in at $250, but so far, a couple days in, my back isn't rice krispies & I don't feel sore-exhausted from sitting; the only discomfort I currently feel is getting used to the lumbar-style chair on my lower back & from unused sitting muscles getting used for probably the first time ever lol.

 

Kaido

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My Backstrong came today! I just put it together, and like it so far. I put it on the level as a staple chair, and will have to see how it is on my back.

Are you still using it? How's it been long-term?
 

Spacehead

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Hope it works well for you.
At first blush it seems silly to pay that much for "a chair". But yeah, whatever it is you do you need to be comfortable so it does make sense after thinking about it. I'm the opposite, i stand all day. Not walking around much, just standing. It's hell on my feet, ankles, knees & legs overall. So i buy more expensive shoes or boots.
 
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Kaido

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So i buy more expensive shoes or boots.

I bought New Balance shoes with custom inserts a few years back. Life-changing. First time in my life I didn't have foot & toe pain. $$$ but worth it! Same deal with my bed...got a knockoff Temperpedic memory foam bed. I sleep like a baby now. A+.

I kind of hate investing in stuff like this, i.e. non-directly fun or useful things, especially expensive ones at that, but they are absolutely worth the investment & worth saving up for!
 

Muadib

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Are you still using it? How's it been long-term?

Yes, I’m still using it, but I don’t think I can recommend it. While it works well for the back, I feel that it needs more padding in the butt area. After sitting in it around an hour or so, if I don’t get up and move around, my butt will start to hurt.

I never had that problem with any other chair before, not even cheap ones. It makes me sad, because it a great chair for the back.
 

Kaido

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Yes, I’m still using it, but I don’t think I can recommend it. While it works well for the back, I feel that it needs more padding in the butt area. After sitting in it around an hour or so, if I don’t get up and move around, my butt will start to hurt.

I never had that problem with any other chair before, not even cheap ones. It makes me sad, because it a great chair for the back.

Their FAQ includes this:
Is there a time limit on how long I should sit in the chair?

There is no set limit to the sitting time but we encourage everyone to get up and move around at least 1 time per hour to help increase blood flow and stimulate your muscles

I wonder if that's why they put it in there...lack of padding. Maybe I'll see if there's a seat cushion that fits. I tried out my buddy's Purple cushion last year & it was pretty comfy:


I'm definitely not used to sitting up straight all the time, lol. I can feel those unused muscles they talk about in the FAQ being used haha!
 

Muadib

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Their FAQ includes this:


I wonder if that's why they put it in there...lack of padding. Maybe I'll see if there's a seat cushion that fits. I tried out my buddy's Purple cushion last year & it was pretty comfy:


I'm definitely not used to sitting up straight all the time, lol. I can feel those unused muscles they talk about in the FAQ being used haha!
I think that they went cheap on the seat cushion, and ruined what could have been a great chair. Thanks for the purple link! I ordered the $80 cushion.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If that's anymore effective than a Herman Miller or other high-end chair, I'll eat my shoe.

Am I the only one that immediately discounts products on Kickstarter? Feels very as-seen-on-TV-ish to me.
Indeed. Every time this q comes up on this forum, I call for a purchase of a Herman Miller aeron. I can sit in one for 16 hours and feel like a spring daisy. Bought two refurbs five? Years ago and they're going strong, no issues.
 

Kaido

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I think that they went cheap on the seat cushion, and ruined what could have been a great chair. Thanks for the purple link! I ordered the $80 cushion.

Let me know if it fits & if it helps! I wonder if the travel-sized one would be a better fit due to the smaller seat size.

I use a drafting chair in my shop & it feels similar to that...smaller seat & shorter back support piece.
 

Craig234

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Man, those purple cushions are pretty expensive. Must cost them what to manufacture? Not saying it's not 'worth it' if they work.
 

Kaido

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Man, those purple cushions are pretty expensive. Must cost them what to manufacture? Not saying it's not 'worth it' if they work.

My buddy has the Purple bed & liked it so much he got the cushion for his chair, fwiw.

Also, update: I'm a few days into using my Backstrong chair & I have zero back pain, aches, or sitting-fatigue. I can see what @Muadib is talking about with the thinness of the seat cushion, which I figure is probably an item that wears down over time as it's not super thick & compresses quite a bit due to the lightness of the material, so I'll plan on getting the Purple Everywhere seat cushion ($39) down the road if it gets to the point of annoyance:


Anyway, it's not like a "wow this chair is amazing" feeling as much as an absence of annoying semi-painful feelings, same as when I switched to New Balance shoes with custom inserts. It took a little getting used to for the first few days, but it's pretty natural to sit in now. I had to just my monitor because I'm actually sitting up straight by default lol.
 
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Muadib

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My buddy has the Purple bed & liked it so much he got the cushion for his chair, fwiw.

Also, update: I'm a few days into using my Backstrong chair & I have zero back pain, aches, or sitting-fatigue. I can see what @Muadib is talking about with the thinness of the seat cushion, which I figure is probably an item that wears down over time as it's not super thick & compresses quite a bit due to the lightness of the material, so I'll plan on getting the Purple Everywhere seat cushion ($39) down the road if it gets to the point of annoyance:


Anyway, it's not like a "wow this chair is amazing" feeling as much as an absence of annoying semi-painful feelings, same as when I switched to New Balance shoes with custom inserts. It took a little getting used to for the first few days, but it's pretty natural to sit in now. I had to just my monitor because I'm actually sitting up straight by default lol.

I think you are right about the seat cushion. It didn’t bother me for months. I loved the chair at first due to being pain free. I still am as long as I remember to take breaks.
 
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Yeah, my computer chair at home broke, but I really don't want to spend $700+ on a fancy replacement. Buuuuuuuut I'd have to wait until like February to get the Backstrong chair. #firstworldproblems

My friend did the exercise ball thing. It's neat, but annoying, because there's no back to lean onto & you're always kind of rolling around a bit. You can't really just lean back & relax when you're say typing something & want to read it to review. One of my computer clients had a chair adapter for the ball that added wheels & a lower backrest - similar to the one below, except the backrest was a horizontal pad on a metal bar...it was okay, but the lack of armrests was annoying:

This looks like BDSM furniture.
 

Kaido

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It tested out the best on Wirecutter:


Scroll down for an extensive review (complete with gifs!). Also, having used one before, it is pretty dang comfortable!
 

Kaido

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So a few days in now:

1. Unused muscles that were a bit achy from using the chair before have now gotten used to sitting in said chair
2. Zero back/body pain or aches. Zippo. Brilliant. Cost an arm & a leg to solve this problem, but this is where I sit most of the day now, soooooo yeah. Good investment!

Long-term plan:

1. See if seat wears down
2. If so, get the Purple travel cushion for $39


 
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VirtualLarry

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Yes, I’m still using it, but I don’t think I can recommend it. While it works well for the back, I feel that it needs more padding in the butt area. After sitting in it around an hour or so, if I don’t get up and move around, my butt will start to hurt.

I never had that problem with any other chair before, not even cheap ones. It makes me sad, because it a great chair for the back.
Get a "Royal Purple" seat cushion, they are awesome.

I have a fairly nice chair I got from OD, it supports up to 500lbs, of which I am currently just under 400lbs, so it's fairly comfortable. It doesn't really "lean back" at all, which I actually LIKE. I think that I paid like $350, $100 off, it was in their Big & Tall chair selection. I don't know what model, offhand.

This chair sounds interesting, but I wouldn't be able to utilize it, until they come out with a "Big & Tall (& Heavy)" version.
 

Muadib

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Get a "Royal Purple" seat cushion, they are awesome.

I have a fairly nice chair I got from OD, it supports up to 500lbs, of which I am currently just under 400lbs, so it's fairly comfortable. It doesn't really "lean back" at all, which I actually LIKE. I think that I paid like $350, $100 off, it was in their Big & Tall chair selection. I don't know what model, offhand.

This chair sounds interesting, but I wouldn't be able to utilize it, until they come out with a "Big & Tall (& Heavy)" version.

That’s good to know as the royal purple is what I ordered. It should be here Tuesday. I know a little about the big man chair. I got one for my nephew who is probably 400 plus now.
 

Kaido

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Couple weeks in. Zero back pain. This thing was 100% worth the money to solve the problem I wanted it to.
 

sdifox

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Get a "Royal Purple" seat cushion, they are awesome.

I have a fairly nice chair I got from OD, it supports up to 500lbs, of which I am currently just under 400lbs, so it's fairly comfortable. It doesn't really "lean back" at all, which I actually LIKE. I think that I paid like $350, $100 off, it was in their Big & Tall chair selection. I don't know what model, offhand.

This chair sounds interesting, but I wouldn't be able to utilize it, until they come out with a "Big & Tall (& Heavy)" version.


Wtf you need to lose a lot of weight.
 
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