Interesting Polls on direction of country and Obama job approval

[Paddington]

Originally posted by: b2386

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: nullzero
Stuff like this from the Obama administration is what will drop his poll numbers fast;

http://michaelscomments.files....-unemployment-may2.gif

People don't like being lied to .

That graph is a lie and little more than propaganda, Dr. Goebbels.

Unemployment is expected to rise well into 2010 before any rebound.

So. Who's the liar, now?

Not that I feel like we should hold this over Obama's head either, but you do realize that chart was created by his economic team, right?

Owned.

 

[nullzero]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: nullzero
Stuff like this from the Obama administration is what will drop his poll numbers fast;

http://michaelscomments.files....-unemployment-may2.gif

People don't like being lied to .

That graph is a lie and little more than propaganda, Dr. Goebbels.

Unemployment is expected to rise well into 2010 before any rebound.

So. Who's the liar, now?

You do know the chart was derived from Obama's economic team? (besides the part in maroon which accounts for the reported unemployment counting the death and birth model.)

http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblo...nemployment-estimates/

Heyheybobo you should open up your mind and consider to question.

 

[OCGuy]

A recent gallup poll showed Obama at his lowest point yet...

 

[nullzero]

Originally posted by: OCguy
A recent gallup poll showed Obama at his lowest point yet...

It wouldn't surprise me since Obama is continuing the Bush economic policies.

 

[JSt0rm]

I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

Seeing how he has already projected deficits for the foreseeable future...

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

Seeing how he has already projected deficits for the foreseeable future...

Not that it makes much of a difference, just about every politician is for deficits. Rather, they aren't for deficits, but they are against raising taxes and against cutting spending.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Heck, I got a car loan last week for 60mos@3.9%.

Where??

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: nullzero

Originally posted by: OCguy
A recent gallup poll showed Obama at his lowest point yet...

It wouldn't surprise me since Obama is continuing the Bush economic policies.

And foreign policies.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Majority of America: still extremely blind to what is happening.
MSM: still ignoring all the bad things Obama is doing

If the media isn't talking about it, then it's kinda hard for the people to know what's happening.
If the people don't care, then it's kinda hard for them to change their mind about Obama. He was their savior, and still is, despite all the OBVIOUS mistakes he's making.

You mean the majority of America isn't stupid enough to believe that Obama is responsible for Presidential decisions that were made before he was even elected President.

 

[JSFLY]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
I just follow Rasmussen index and for first time Obama had more people strongly disapproving of him that approving. His support among liberals dropped into 60's. I am sure the awakening to health care fiasco along with GM made lights go on for more people. Obama's dropping Israel for Palestine is also a reason. People now clearly see Obama lied about being strong supporter of Israel.

"JERUSALEM -- A new poll shows only 6 percent of Israeli Jews see President Barack Obama's administration as pro-Israel, while 50 percent see it as pro-Palestinian"

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...obama-pro-palestinian/

That's a huge drop from just a few weeks ago.

NY Post this weekend:

ISRAEL BETRAYED

"When Barack Obama was running for president, he vigorously reassured voters of his firm commitment to America's special relationship with Israel. Indeed, he worked to beef up his pro-Israel bona fides long before he even announced his intention to run...

Obama called the Jewish State "our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy." During the primary and general election campaigns, Obama dispatched a stream of high-profile Jewish supporters to canvas Florida, and in a 2008 AIPAC speech, he went so far as to declare that Jerusalem must remain the "undivided" capital of Israel.

For all the qualms that anti-Obama "smears" would depress support in the Jewish community, Jews rewarded Obama with nearly 80% of their votes, more than they gave John Kerry.

Just six months into the new administration, however, it is becoming increasingly clear that those who harbored suspicions about Obama's approach to the Middle East had good reason to be worried. "


http://www.nypost.com/seven/06...el_betrayed_175238.htm


Obama speaks like the Lion King - he acts like Darth Vader

Good. We don't need to be sticking our necks out for Israel any longer.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Majority of America: still extremely blind to what is happening.
MSM: still ignoring all the bad things Obama is doing

If the media isn't talking about it, then it's kinda hard for the people to know what's happening.
If the people don't care, then it's kinda hard for them to change their mind about Obama. He was their savior, and still is, despite all the OBVIOUS mistakes he's making.

I agree, he should let the banks and auto industry fail so we can have another great depression!

Republicans.txt

The auto industry is failing and the banks were saved last Fall.

The newer programs are doing very well, including TALF, which are things that are being carried out under his government. They are getting the securitization market back open, including non-TALF deals from companies such as Capital One, with spreads 1/5 as the high water mark.

Heck, I got a car loan last week for 60mos@3.9%.

The auto industry is shaking off the problems of the last 5 decades. They are hitting the trough now and will be trying to climb back up soon.

I got 4% on a 48 month back in October. The money to loan has always been there, it just isnt being given to idiots.

We got 4.95 for 66 months in Dec for my car. We just refinanced my wife's car. Had 4 1/2 years left on it @ 6% and got 36 months @ 3%. Both loans through Achieva.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this s**t out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

:laugh:

The most amusing part is that you can say this stuff with a straight face and actually believe it.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this s**t out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

:laugh:

The most amusing part is that you can say this stuff with a straight face and actually believe it.

It does kind of sound funny - but will you be laughing in Nov 2012 when Obama wins again =)

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

If he cuts spending enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the 'entitlement' crowd (Dems)

If he raises taxes enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the fiscal conservatives.

Any combo of the above that balances the budget will probably anger both groups (higher taxes and no UHC). I just don't see (tax) revenue rising fast enough from economic growth to help out. It's a tough spot and in 3-4 years cries of "GWB caused it" are not likely to be very effective.

Fern

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

If he cuts spending enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the 'entitlement' crowd (Dems)

If he raises taxes enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the fiscal conservatives.

Any combo of the above that balances the budget will probably anger both groups (higher taxes and no UHC). I just don't see (tax) revenue rising fast enough from economic growth to help out. It's a tough spot and in 3-4 years cries of "GWB caused it" are not likely to be very effective.

Fern

I see it very differently... The economy is absoltely shit when obama came into office - it can only go up from there. The economy will be much improved by 2012 and there wont be anything to stop Obama from re-election. Romney? Palin? LOL@both.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Is it possible to disapprove of the job that Obama is doing but still think that he's doing better than the even worse job the Republicans would do?

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Is it possible to disapprove of the job that Obama is doing but still think that he's doing better than the even worse job the Republicans would do?

Depends. Do you believe Obama when he says he created OR saved millions of new jobs?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Depends. Do you believe Obama when he says he created OR saved millions of new jobs?

The main problem is that people are so fascinated with how he says it that they lose focus on the content of the message.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
I think its smart for Obama to get all this shit out of the way early and then give himself 2 years or so to balance budgets cut spending and appeal to the real conservatives right before the election.

If he cuts spending enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the 'entitlement' crowd (Dems)

If he raises taxes enough to balance the budget, he'll anger the fiscal conservatives.

Any combo of the above that balances the budget will probably anger both groups (higher taxes and no UHC). I just don't see (tax) revenue rising fast enough from economic growth to help out. It's a tough spot and in 3-4 years cries of "GWB caused it" are not likely to be very effective.

Fern

I see it very differently... The economy is absoltely shit when obama came into office - it can only go up from there. The economy will be much improved by 2012 and there wont be anything to stop Obama from re-election. Romney? Palin? LOL@both.

I don't mean to detract from your main point, but the economy certainly could go down a lot farther. It really ticks me off when people think we have it bad now. Sure, things aren't great but unemployment is only nearing 10%. People are not starving in the streets. This may be the worst depression since the 30's, but we're no where near where we were in the 30's.

However, I think Obama made a lot of the right economic choices. Granted, there are pretty much a million books written on how to handle a situation like this so it's pretty tough to mess up. The only question is when the recovery will occur.

 

[ZeGermans]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
Obama speaks like the Lion King - he acts like Darth Vader

This would work if Israel weren't a fascist police state that may have a right to exist but certainly doesn't deserve to.

 

[ZeGermans]

Ok have any of your idiotic right-wingers noticed the Obama has basically done nothing liberal in these first 6 months other than empty promises and symbolic gestures, while toeing the status quo at every opportunity?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ok have any of your idiotic right-wingers noticed the Obama has basically done nothing liberal in these first 6 months other than empty promises and symbolic gestures, while toeing the status quo at every opportunity?

We have noticed that some hypocritical Obama supporters are rather accepting of Obama policies that just a year ago you were ready to burn Bush at the stake for.

Glad to see that you at least acknowledge the man behind the curtain is proving the be an empty suit.

 

[GTaudiophile]

The citizens of the Third Reich also loved Hitler but many would claim to have been oblivious to the horrors of the Holocaust. Thank Joseph Goebbels a lot for that.

This is the power of state-run media.

(And this is what ABC/NBC/CBS, etc. have become. If this fact doesn't scare you, it should.)

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The citizens of the Third Reich also loved Hitler but many would claim to have been oblivious to the horrors of the Holocaust. Thank Joseph Goebbels a lot for that.

This is the power of state-run media.

(And this is what ABC/NBC/CBS, etc. have become. If this fact doesn't scare you, it should.)

Another to add to the tin foil hat wearing loony list.