Interesting tidbit about 9/11...

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cheezy321

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
*pokes head in thread* "What's this thread about?"

Trolls versus neffers.

It's like a bomb full of fail just exploded all over 30+ pages of this thread.

The faiboat sank like 8 pages ago....This is like the apocalypse after where everyone is still trying to find intelligent life.
 

jaredfs

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Some of you are being very disrespectful to the victim's family members who keep demanding a real investigation. It's sickening to label people conspiracy theorists for simply asking questions.

The government's official explanation on building 7 is basically "we don't know how this happened, but it could have been because of some small fires".

Any real investigation would consider the possibility that there were bombs planted in building 7, by the terrorists or whoever. Instead, the government totally ignores this possibility.

Just like they are now ignoring the possibility that it was more than one lone scientist who sent anthrax out to senators that were against the patriot act.

 

Bulk Beef

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What really needs to be done are studies that show just WHY people buy into this crap and what can be done to help them.

That's really what the paper was going to be about - sociology, you know. Analysis of the groupthink thing, shit like that. You're right, it really is a sort of cult. I think there's some sort of appeal to being part of this group of people with the "inside scoop." It kind of amazes me that people that are that whacked the fuck out are able to function.

Like I said, it was just going to piss me off, and my sociology professor probably buys into that shit anyway, so I wrote about A Clockwork Orange instead. Watched it about 30 times over a two week span. Never watching it again. Can't listen to Beethoven, either.
 

benzylic

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So after reading this thread, I feel infinitely dumber. And realized some posters are bigger morons than I originally thought. But through my reading, and careful examination of clues I have narrowed it down to two possible choices....

Silverstein with the candlestick in the conservatory.

or

The Government with the rope in the dining room.

Really after reading you'll come to the same conclusions
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Some of you are being very disrespectful to the victim's family members who keep demanding a real investigation. It's sickening to label people conspiracy theorists for simply asking questions.

The government's official explanation on building 7 is basically "we don't know how this happened, but it could have been because of some small fires".

Any real investigation would consider the possibility that there were bombs planted in building 7, by the terrorists or whoever. Instead, the government totally ignores this possibility.

Just like they are now ignoring the possibility that it was more than one lone scientist who sent anthrax out to senators that were against the patriot act.

You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

I can imagine the call now

*ring ring*
Terrorist: Excuse me, I thought you would like to know that we are going to be flying 2 planes into the WTC. We expect major damage to the largest towers, but minimal damage to the other buildings
Guvment: ORLY NOW? That's great, but it's unfortunate that you won't be able to take out the other buildings. I'm gonna go ahead and send some NINJAS over there and plant some explosives in building 7. Now MAKE SURE you don't damage it so that our explosives will work as planned
Terrorist: Thank you for your cooperation!

 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Bulk Beef
What really needs to be done are studies that show just WHY people buy into this crap and what can be done to help them.

That's really what the paper was going to be about - sociology, you know. Analysis of the groupthink thing, shit like that. You're right, it really is a sort of cult. I think there's some sort of appeal to being part of this group of people with the "inside scoop." It kind of amazes me that people that are that whacked the fuck out are able to function.

How is that much different than people who automatically accept whatever their government leaders or people like Rush Limbaugh tell them? Most Americans know very little in regards to details surrounding 9/11. Most formed their permanent opinions on the matter within hours of the events; opinions that were formed based on government leaders talking behind microphones.

The reason the conspiracy theories persist is because the government did an absolutely horrible investigation and left many unanswered questions. For starters, they could easily release many video angles of the plane crashing into the pentagon.

 

torpid

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Originally posted by: mxrider
So after reading this thread, I feel infinitely dumber. And realized some posters are bigger morons than I originally thought. But through my reading, and careful examination of clues I have narrowed it down to two possible choices....

Silverstein with the candlestick in the conservatory.

or

The Government with the rope in the dining room.

Really after reading you'll come to the same conclusions

No. Get with the times. It's Silverstein in the theater with the trophy or The Government in the spa with the dumbbell. And that guy you kept calling a Colonel is a retired football player illegally impersonating a military officer.
 

Ns1

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I hate to use a CT tactic, but let me ask an important question

If flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, where did the airplane go. Or was that a cover up as well?
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Ns1
I hate to use a CT tactic, but let me ask an important question

If flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, where did the airplane go. Or was that a cover up as well?

Whidmore.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Bulk Beef
What really needs to be done are studies that show just WHY people buy into this crap and what can be done to help them.

That's really what the paper was going to be about - sociology, you know. Analysis of the groupthink thing, shit like that. You're right, it really is a sort of cult. I think there's some sort of appeal to being part of this group of people with the "inside scoop." It kind of amazes me that people that are that whacked the fuck out are able to function.

How is that much different than people who automatically accept whatever their government leaders or people like Rush Limbaugh tell them? Most Americans know very little in regards to details surrounding 9/11. Most formed their permanent opinions on the matter within hours of the events; opinions that were formed based on government leaders talking behind microphones.

The reason the conspiracy theories persist is because the government did an absolutely horrible investigation and left many unanswered questions. For starters, they could easily release many video angles of the plane crashing into the pentagon.

I agree 100% I don't own a tin foil hat, but when my own government came out saying "neither Black Box were found, 99% of everything turned to rubble, OHHH... but we did find this one terrorists passport on ground zero. And it was basically untouched."

I don't know, that makes me wonder, I think about that one thing every time I think about 9/11 and it never gets any less confusing. I would like one person here to explain this. I mean black boxes, the steel of the building basically EVERYTHING disinergrated in the fire, but somehow a piece of paper not only didn't burn & is still readable?

I'm NOT saying the government was behind 9/11 but they did come out saying they found the passport, could one person here explain this to me? Since nobody can, I will assume the government knows more than they're telling us.
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Ns1
You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

The terrorists could have planted bombs and flew the planes. They are not mutually exclusive. There was a WTC bombing in 1993 and I don't think ninjas were involved.

The point is that a major event like this should have had a major investigation that considered every possibility. Instead, more money was spent on the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Yet people are puzzled why the victim's families are still demanding answers?

 

ric1287

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If I lived in a country where I believed all this bat-shit insane stuff was going on with my government....I'd be on the first plane the fuck out.

So for me, that just proves how unbelievably crazy/stupid you have to be to believe in some of the shit talked about in this thread.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Bulk Beef
What really needs to be done are studies that show just WHY people buy into this crap and what can be done to help them.

That's really what the paper was going to be about - sociology, you know. Analysis of the groupthink thing, shit like that. You're right, it really is a sort of cult. I think there's some sort of appeal to being part of this group of people with the "inside scoop." It kind of amazes me that people that are that whacked the fuck out are able to function.

How is that much different than people who automatically accept whatever their government leaders or people like Rush Limbaugh tell them? Most Americans know very little in regards to details surrounding 9/11. Most formed their permanent opinions on the matter within hours of the events; opinions that were formed based on government leaders talking behind microphones.

The reason the conspiracy theories persist is because the government did an absolutely horrible investigation and left many unanswered questions. For starters, they could easily release many video angles of the plane crashing into the pentagon.

See, that's the difference. I'm not "buying" into anything. I weigh the facts and believe what the facts tell me. Every CT on 9/11 has contradicted the facts.

As anyone can tell you about me on this board is that I never "buy" in to anything. Prove it or I won't believe it, period.

People who believe CTs, ANY CT, forget one thing: Secrets are next to impossible to keep. For the vast majority of CTs so many people would have to be involved as to make keeping the secret absolutely impossible. Few actual conspiracies exist for this very reason, and most real conspiracies are quickly revealed for this very same reason.

There are no unanswered questions about 9/11. The problem you need to recognize is that you WANT there to be unanswered questions. You WANT the conspiracy to be true. You may even need it to be true. The question you need to ask yourself is why?
 

cheezy321

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Ns1
You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

The terrorists could have planted bombs and flew the planes. They are not mutually exclusive. There was a WTC bombing in 1993 and I don't think ninjas were involved.

The point is that a major event like this should have had a major investigation that considered every possibility. Instead, more money was spent on the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Yet people are puzzled why the victim's families are still demanding answers?

Dude the only thing I have seen you do in this forum is try and get cha cha referrals and post in this thread. You aren't off to a good start my friend
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Ns1
You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

The terrorists could have planted bombs and flew the planes. They are not mutually exclusive. There was a WTC bombing in 1993 and I don't think ninjas were involved.

The point is that a major event like this should have had a major investigation that considered every possibility. Instead, more money was spent on the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Yet people are puzzled why the victim's families are still demanding answers?

Are you fucking serious right now. ok buddy, so what happened to flight 77?
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Amused
People who believe CTs, ANY CT, forget one thing: Secrets are next to impossible to keep. For the vast majority of CTs so many people would have to be involved as to make keeping the secret absolutely impossible. Few actual conspiracies exist for this very reason, and most real conspiracies are quickly revealed for this very same reason.

Tuskegee Experiment, Operation Northwoods, etc. Try a google search on "9/11 whistleblowers" or something like that.

There are no unanswered questions about 9/11.

I hope you are joking. If not, you are absolutely clueless on the subject.

 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Dude the only thing I have seen you do in this forum is try and get cha cha referrals and post in this thread. You aren't off to a good start my friend

OK, I'll go post about my system specs or whatever you're suppose to do around here.

 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Ns1
You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

The terrorists could have planted bombs and flew the planes. They are not mutually exclusive. There was a WTC bombing in 1993 and I don't think ninjas were involved.

The point is that a major event like this should have had a major investigation that considered every possibility. Instead, more money was spent on the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Yet people are puzzled why the victim's families are still demanding answers?

Are you fucking serious right now. ok buddy, so what happened to flight 77?

Huh? Where did I question what happened to Flight 77? The point is the government could easily stop theories surrounding it by releasing videotapes.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: Ns1
You seem to be forgetting the fact that 2 GODDAMN PLANES FLEW INTO THE WTC.

The terrorists could have planted bombs and flew the planes. They are not mutually exclusive. There was a WTC bombing in 1993 and I don't think ninjas were involved.

The point is that a major event like this should have had a major investigation that considered every possibility. Instead, more money was spent on the Monica Lewinsky investigation. Yet people are puzzled why the victim's families are still demanding answers?

Are you fucking serious right now. ok buddy, so what happened to flight 77?

Huh? Where did I question what happened to Flight 77? The point is the government could easily stop theories surrounding it by releasing videotapes.

ok so if you're not questioning the fact that an airplane hit the pentagon i'm not gonna address the point any further.
 

cheezy321

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Dude the only thing I have seen you do in this forum is try and get cha cha referrals and post in this thread. You aren't off to a good start my friend

OK, I'll go post about my system specs or whatever you're suppose to do around here.

All im saying is that a large portion of your total posts are pushing people to use you as a referral on Cha Cha. (I use it too, but people PM'd me asking me about it, i didnt go after all them like you do)

Or they are in this thread defending 9/11 conspiracy theories. Do you really want to do this?

I think you need to switch to the black man avatar
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Dude the only thing I have seen you do in this forum is try and get cha cha referrals and post in this thread. You aren't off to a good start my friend

OK, I'll go post about my system specs or whatever you're suppose to do around here.

All im saying is that a large portion of your total posts are pushing people to use you as a referral on Cha Cha. (I use it too, but people PM'd me asking me about it, i didnt go after all them like you do)

Or they are in this thread defending 9/11 conspiracy theories. Do you really want to do this?

I think you need to switch to the black man avatar

Haha, well I've made less off chacha referrals on here than I would have made spending the same time actually doing chacha.

I'm not defending conspiracy theories. I'm just trying to point out that this is not a black/white issue. There are 9/11 family members and such asking legit questions and whenever they do they get painted as conspiracy theorists.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: jaredfs
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Dude the only thing I have seen you do in this forum is try and get cha cha referrals and post in this thread. You aren't off to a good start my friend

OK, I'll go post about my system specs or whatever you're suppose to do around here.

All im saying is that a large portion of your total posts are pushing people to use you as a referral on Cha Cha. (I use it too, but people PM'd me asking me about it, i didnt go after all them like you do)

Or they are in this thread defending 9/11 conspiracy theories. Do you really want to do this?

I think you need to switch to the black man avatar

Haha, well I've made less off chacha referrals on here than I would have made spending the same time actually doing chacha.

I'm not defending conspiracy theories. I'm just trying to point out that this is not a black/white issue. There are 9/11 family members and such asking legit questions and whenever they do they get painted as conspiracy theorists.

There are legit questions, and then there's not so legit questions.

 

JeepinEd

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I don't know if this has been asked yet, but if the government used explosives to bring down the WTC, then why bother crashing airplanes into them?
We all know terrorists tried to bring them down with bombs before, so why not just say the succeeded this time?
 
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