Interesting tidbit about 9/11...

[So]

Originally posted by: Softballslug

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.

Here is the absurdity... You claim that since there was no plane it had to be something else, IE: a missle, or ...

Ok, mr. smarty pants where is the picture of WHATEVER it was that blew the fricking hole in the side of the pentagon???? oh yea, it was a water canon......

I clicked on a link somewhere above in this thread, and it had a PICTURE of a plane part sitting on the lawn of the pentagon while firefighters were dousing the flames from the attack...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Softballslug

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.

Here is the absurdity... You claim that since there was no plane it had to be something else, IE: a missle, or ...

Ok, mr. smarty pants where is the picture of WHATEVER it was that blew the fricking hole in the side of the pentagon???? oh yea, it was a water canon......

No absolutely not...I don't care if it were a plane, tank, missile or whatever.

Just explain how on the sides of the hole, everything was perfectly intact. Even common wood and paper not even charred....yet the same 'explosive device' caused steel to melt.

That's all. People get to caught up with the details of what hit the pentagon...it really doesn't matter too much.

There is still footage from that service station down the road that has not been released. It would have captured whatever flew into the pentagon as it was flying into it.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

(Yeah, how about that. Three times in a row, gravity caused things to fall downward and not upward or sideways. Weird.)

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Before pharmacy and biology (and later computer science) became my career, I was involved in Mechanical Engineering.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I used to competively compete in martial arts...not a ninja though.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Working for a homebuilder/mortgage company...

(and implied you had worked as an electrician in that same thread.)

But, then I found this:

Still retail pharmacists are crippled by lawsuits. My main reason for ditching it post-acceptance to a pharm college.

Ahhhh, so now we all understand you. So, at one point, you were thinking about becoming a pharmacist & were actually accepted to a pharm school - that's sufficient for a claim that pharmacy was your career at one point. Gee, when I was 5 years old, I wanted to be a fireman. So, I think from now on, I'll claim here that at one point, my career was a fireman. That causes this to make more sense:

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My education is heavily in zoology.

So, when you were 5 years old, you wanted to work at the zoo, huh? Isn't that cu-uuute? What's "heavily in zoology" mean - that one of your required college electives had to be in science, and you couldn't fit the 3 credit hour easy science course into your schedule, so you took a 4 credit hour science course?

I'm not sure which is more amusing - that you believe the conspiracy theories, or that you believe:

Also it would be doubtful the buildings would be totally nuked like they were. You would expect some at the bottom few stories to remain at least in one of the cases.

But, that statement essentially proves you're an idiot in terms of mechanical engineering & physics in general. It's like arguing "yeah, I know the freight train traveling at 60mph hit the car squarely on the passenger side, but I would have expected the people on the driver's side of the car to walk away unharmed." In fact, based on that statement, I have to question if you've even ever taken a basic level intro physics course on mechanics in your life - the one that might mention mass, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Given that you believe "some at the bottom few stories to remain", it's absolutely pointless to argue with you about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. But, I just wanted to come to this thread to point out that your exploits are like a real-life Buckaroo Bonzai. Wait a second though... didn't Buckaroo Bonzai race a car across the desert?

Never mind, you've got the racing scene covered too! (Plus advocating that there's nothing wrong with DUI, as long as no one gets hurt.) here

In conclusion, you're right on at least one point. It was stated early in the thread that plenty of engineers and other experts have already debunked all the crap about the 9/11 conspiracy. You pointed out that not all of them have debunked it - some of them believe it. I take it you consider yourself to represent 9/11 conspiracy believers from among the mechanical engineers? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No, those other "engineers" haven't been debunked; they've just been laughed at.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Ultimately I would agree with you but the outcome is going to be determined by the training of the person. Anyone with any real experience with a handgun would "win" against an inexperienced and untrained knife wielder. The opposite is also true.

in any fight really that is true...apples to apples though most skilled fighters know how to use gun, knife and their hands among other things.

I know you get it, but other here really think a gun makes clint eastwood out of anyone.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

(Yeah, how about that. Three times in a row, gravity caused things to fall downward and not upward or sideways. Weird.)

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Before pharmacy and biology (and later computer science) became my career, I was involved in Mechanical Engineering.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I used to competively compete in martial arts...not a ninja though.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Working for a homebuilder/mortgage company...

(and implied you had worked as an electrician in that same thread.)

But, then I found this:

Still retail pharmacists are crippled by lawsuits. My main reason for ditching it post-acceptance to a pharm college.

Ahhhh, so now we all understand you. So, at one point, you were thinking about becoming a pharmacist & were actually accepted to a pharm school - that's sufficient for a claim that pharmacy was your career at one point. Gee, when I was 5 years old, I wanted to be a fireman. So, I think from now on, I'll claim here that at one point, my career was a fireman. That causes this to make more sense:

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My education is heavily in zoology.

So, when you were 5 years old, you wanted to work at the zoo, huh? Isn't that cu-uuute? What's "heavily in zoology" mean - that one of your required college electives had to be in science, and you couldn't fit the 3 credit hour easy science course into your schedule, so you took a 4 credit hour science course?

I'm not sure which is more amusing - that you believe the conspiracy theories, or that you believe:

Also it would be doubtful the buildings would be totally nuked like they were. You would expect some at the bottom few stories to remain at least in one of the cases.

But, that statement essentially proves you're an idiot in terms of mechanical engineering & physics in general. It's like arguing "yeah, I know the freight train traveling at 60mph hit the car squarely on the passenger side, but I would have expected the people on the driver's side of the car to walk away unharmed." In fact, based on that statement, I have to question if you've even ever taken a basic level intro physics course on mechanics in your life - the one that might mention mass, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Given that you believe "some at the bottom few stories to remain", it's absolutely pointless to argue with you about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. But, I just wanted to come to this thread to point out that your exploits are like a real-life Buckaroo Bonzai. Wait a second though... didn't Buckaroo Bonzai race a car across the desert?

Never mind, you've got the racing scene covered too! (Plus advocating that there's nothing wrong with DUI, as long as no one gets hurt.) here

In conclusion, you're right on at least one point. It was stated early in the thread that plenty of engineers and other experts have already debunked all the crap about the 9/11 conspiracy. You pointed out that not all of them have debunked it - some of them believe it. I take it you consider yourself to represent 9/11 conspiracy believers from among the mechanical engineers? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No, those other "engineers" haven't been debunked; they've just been laughed at.

PIZZOWNED!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.

There are PLENTY of plane parts visible, plus a number of witnesses that actually saw the aircraft. The fact that a hollow plane hit the side of a reinfornced concrete and steel building specifically designed to withstand attack seems to upset you. Are you mad that it did not level everything within a couple of miles like some Rambo movie?

You are missing the point. I would have expected an even smaller hole really..but all along the edges everything was intact.

 

[Ns1]

PIZZOWNED!~

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.

There are PLENTY of plane parts visible, plus a number of witnesses that actually saw the aircraft. The fact that a hollow plane hit the side of a reinfornced concrete and steel building specifically designed to withstand attack seems to upset you. Are you mad that it did not level everything within a couple of miles like some Rambo movie?

You are missing the point. I would have expected an even smaller hole really..but all along the edges everything was intact.

Um, it was not quite "intact". The Pentagon was built in layers with an incredibly strong outer layer. Think of the plane as an aluminum can. The outermost layer absorbed a large percentage of the forward energy but not all of it. So the plane crumpled like a crushed can but the denser parts which were left (parts of wings and the fuselage but mainly the landing systems, tail, and engines) continued on. Those pieces went through a few more layers of the building before they were stopped.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

(Yeah, how about that. Three times in a row, gravity caused things to fall downward and not upward or sideways. Weird.)

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Before pharmacy and biology (and later computer science) became my career, I was involved in Mechanical Engineering.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I used to competively compete in martial arts...not a ninja though.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Working for a homebuilder/mortgage company...

(and implied you had worked as an electrician in that same thread.)

But, then I found this:

Still retail pharmacists are crippled by lawsuits. My main reason for ditching it post-acceptance to a pharm college.

Ahhhh, so now we all understand you. So, at one point, you were thinking about becoming a pharmacist & were actually accepted to a pharm school - that's sufficient for a claim that pharmacy was your career at one point. Gee, when I was 5 years old, I wanted to be a fireman. So, I think from now on, I'll claim here that at one point, my career was a fireman. That causes this to make more sense:

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My education is heavily in zoology.

So, when you were 5 years old, you wanted to work at the zoo, huh? Isn't that cu-uuute? What's "heavily in zoology" mean - that one of your required college electives had to be in science, and you couldn't fit the 3 credit hour easy science course into your schedule, so you took a 4 credit hour science course?

I'm not sure which is more amusing - that you believe the conspiracy theories, or that you believe:

Also it would be doubtful the buildings would be totally nuked like they were. You would expect some at the bottom few stories to remain at least in one of the cases.

But, that statement essentially proves you're an idiot in terms of mechanical engineering & physics in general. It's like arguing "yeah, I know the freight train traveling at 60mph hit the car squarely on the passenger side, but I would have expected the people on the driver's side of the car to walk away unharmed." In fact, based on that statement, I have to question if you've even ever taken a basic level intro physics course on mechanics in your life - the one that might mention mass, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Given that you believe "some at the bottom few stories to remain", it's absolutely pointless to argue with you about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. But, I just wanted to come to this thread to point out that your exploits are like a real-life Buckaroo Bonzai. Wait a second though... didn't Buckaroo Bonzai race a car across the desert?

Never mind, you've got the racing scene covered too! (Plus advocating that there's nothing wrong with DUI, as long as no one gets hurt.) here

In conclusion, you're right on at least one point. It was stated early in the thread that plenty of engineers and other experts have already debunked all the crap about the 9/11 conspiracy. You pointed out that not all of them have debunked it - some of them believe it. I take it you consider yourself to represent 9/11 conspiracy believers from among the mechanical engineers? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No, those other "engineers" haven't been debunked; they've just been laughed at.

PIZZOWNED!

WOW. he just became the joke of his own thread...and ATOT at the same time.

Looks like his life's work is just as credible as all the other "Truthers" out there.

Good stuff Dr. Pizza. I cannot say "Well Played, Sir" enough.

 

[SirStev0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm2weLS5gJ4

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

(Yeah, how about that. Three times in a row, gravity caused things to fall downward and not upward or sideways. Weird.)

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Before pharmacy and biology (and later computer science) became my career, I was involved in Mechanical Engineering.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I used to competively compete in martial arts...not a ninja though.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Working for a homebuilder/mortgage company...

(and implied you had worked as an electrician in that same thread.)

But, then I found this:

Still retail pharmacists are crippled by lawsuits. My main reason for ditching it post-acceptance to a pharm college.

Ahhhh, so now we all understand you. So, at one point, you were thinking about becoming a pharmacist & were actually accepted to a pharm school - that's sufficient for a claim that pharmacy was your career at one point. Gee, when I was 5 years old, I wanted to be a fireman. So, I think from now on, I'll claim here that at one point, my career was a fireman. That causes this to make more sense:

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My education is heavily in zoology.

So, when you were 5 years old, you wanted to work at the zoo, huh? Isn't that cu-uuute? What's "heavily in zoology" mean - that one of your required college electives had to be in science, and you couldn't fit the 3 credit hour easy science course into your schedule, so you took a 4 credit hour science course?

I'm not sure which is more amusing - that you believe the conspiracy theories, or that you believe:

Also it would be doubtful the buildings would be totally nuked like they were. You would expect some at the bottom few stories to remain at least in one of the cases.

But, that statement essentially proves you're an idiot in terms of mechanical engineering & physics in general. It's like arguing "yeah, I know the freight train traveling at 60mph hit the car squarely on the passenger side, but I would have expected the people on the driver's side of the car to walk away unharmed." In fact, based on that statement, I have to question if you've even ever taken a basic level intro physics course on mechanics in your life - the one that might mention mass, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Given that you believe "some at the bottom few stories to remain", it's absolutely pointless to argue with you about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. But, I just wanted to come to this thread to point out that your exploits are like a real-life Buckaroo Bonzai. Wait a second though... didn't Buckaroo Bonzai race a car across the desert?

Never mind, you've got the racing scene covered too! (Plus advocating that there's nothing wrong with DUI, as long as no one gets hurt.) here

In conclusion, you're right on at least one point. It was stated early in the thread that plenty of engineers and other experts have already debunked all the crap about the 9/11 conspiracy. You pointed out that not all of them have debunked it - some of them believe it. I take it you consider yourself to represent 9/11 conspiracy believers from among the mechanical engineers? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No, those other "engineers" haven't been debunked; they've just been laughed at.

I can't even begin to comprehend why you put so much effort into a post like this, or even how much effort was required.

If it's solely for the kudos of random people on the internet - then kudos. Double kudos if you'd like.

Kudos to alkemyst, too, for being a seasoned electrician / engineer / zoologist / pharmacist / mortage broker / almost ninja.

Hell kudos all around! I don't even know what they are but I'll give em' out like candy.

 

[SirStev0]

Just wondering, how many people actually listened to the interview?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...n4zkYc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xUKPVMVblE&NR=1

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: ducci

Hell kudos all around! I don't even know what they are but I'll give em' out like candy.

I lol'd. Thanks.

 

[torpid]

Jeez Pizza. I am surprised you stooped low enough to respond to him. There are plenty of morons who don't know jack about physics but pretend to that are much more worthy of a response. For example, any post I ever make about physics is, historically speaking, complete garbage, but it takes a bit of lecturing to convince me. What you just did would be like Scottie Bowman being a part time toddler hockey coach.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.

There are PLENTY of plane parts visible, plus a number of witnesses that actually saw the aircraft. The fact that a hollow plane hit the side of a reinfornced concrete and steel building specifically designed to withstand attack seems to upset you. Are you mad that it did not level everything within a couple of miles like some Rambo movie?

You are missing the point. I would have expected an even smaller hole really..but all along the edges everything was intact.

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

(Yeah, how about that. Three times in a row, gravity caused things to fall downward and not upward or sideways. Weird.)

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Before pharmacy and biology (and later computer science) became my career, I was involved in Mechanical Engineering.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
I used to competively compete in martial arts...not a ninja though.

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Working for a homebuilder/mortgage company...

(and implied you had worked as an electrician in that same thread.)

But, then I found this:

Still retail pharmacists are crippled by lawsuits. My main reason for ditching it post-acceptance to a pharm college.

Ahhhh, so now we all understand you. So, at one point, you were thinking about becoming a pharmacist & were actually accepted to a pharm school - that's sufficient for a claim that pharmacy was your career at one point. Gee, when I was 5 years old, I wanted to be a fireman. So, I think from now on, I'll claim here that at one point, my career was a fireman. That causes this to make more sense:

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My education is heavily in zoology.

So, when you were 5 years old, you wanted to work at the zoo, huh? Isn't that cu-uuute? What's "heavily in zoology" mean - that one of your required college electives had to be in science, and you couldn't fit the 3 credit hour easy science course into your schedule, so you took a 4 credit hour science course?

I'm not sure which is more amusing - that you believe the conspiracy theories, or that you believe:

Also it would be doubtful the buildings would be totally nuked like they were. You would expect some at the bottom few stories to remain at least in one of the cases.

But, that statement essentially proves you're an idiot in terms of mechanical engineering & physics in general. It's like arguing "yeah, I know the freight train traveling at 60mph hit the car squarely on the passenger side, but I would have expected the people on the driver's side of the car to walk away unharmed." In fact, based on that statement, I have to question if you've even ever taken a basic level intro physics course on mechanics in your life - the one that might mention mass, momentum, and kinetic energy.

Given that you believe "some at the bottom few stories to remain", it's absolutely pointless to argue with you about the 9/11 conspiracy theory. But, I just wanted to come to this thread to point out that your exploits are like a real-life Buckaroo Bonzai. Wait a second though... didn't Buckaroo Bonzai race a car across the desert?

Never mind, you've got the racing scene covered too! (Plus advocating that there's nothing wrong with DUI, as long as no one gets hurt.) here

In conclusion, you're right on at least one point. It was stated early in the thread that plenty of engineers and other experts have already debunked all the crap about the 9/11 conspiracy. You pointed out that not all of them have debunked it - some of them believe it. I take it you consider yourself to represent 9/11 conspiracy believers from among the mechanical engineers? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No, those other "engineers" haven't been debunked; they've just been laughed at.

You seem to be a sad little man Dr. Pizza...I don't really get the efforts you put into things.

I WORKED as an intern for a full year in a pharmacy. Still that has nothing to do with this post.

I have been involved in the mortgage industry pretty much full and part time at all points in my life since my teens.

You went so off-topic it's pretty crazy...but I am thinking you may be.

I am sure you will have a lot of fans kissing your ass though over this.

YOU GO BOY!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

I don't know what hit it...but it's not consistant with anything needing extingushing when the interior of the building on both sides is not fire damaged.

Like I said...I am not out to prove anything. It's just for discussion.

Try not to be like the other asshats by just focusing on me. Focus on the issue.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

I don't know what hit it...but it's not consistant with anything needing extingushing when the interior of the building on both sides is not fire damaged.

Like I said...I am not out to prove anything. It's just for discussion.

Try not to be like the other asshats by just focusing on me. Focus on the issue.

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane. Now I have no doubt that you will just tell me that those in the "conspiracy" got to them and now have some family member locked up forever to ensure they stick to the story so just go ahead and live in the pink sky little fantasy world you have constructed for yourself.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: ducci
Hell kudos all around! I don't even know what they are but I'll give em' out like candy.

mmmm...kudos

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

I don't know what hit it...but it's not consistant with anything needing extingushing when the interior of the building on both sides is not fire damaged.

Like I said...I am not out to prove anything. It's just for discussion.

Try not to be like the other asshats by just focusing on me. Focus on the issue.

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane. Now I have no doubt that you will just tell me that those in the "conspiracy" got to them and now have some family member locked up forever to ensure they stick to the story so just go ahead and live in the pink sky little fantasy world you have constructed for yourself.

Well the chick I was dating at the time had a brother working in the area that was hit. They were relocated that day. They told him it was due to maintenance in that part of the building. I am not dating her anymore but at the time he just thought it was 'luck'.

Like I said though, regardless of what hit the building. All accounts say it was an explosive.

Explain the pictures of both sides of the hole in the pentagon that show nice and clean office space without charred remnants that would be consistant with a firebomb of any kind.

Maybe special wood and paper is used in the Pentagon.

It's really you living in fantasy if you think everything is as it appears and no one colludes for profit.

Most think the Great Depression was just a random event.

*edit* I wanted to add the 'seeing the plane' thing is probably what many do believe (I am not saying it was not a plane or it was)...in many disaster situations a lot of things people insist they saw were later proven to be different.

There is a lot psychologically that people do/react with. It's not hard for someone to enter a crowd and by the end of the day have most people believing something/someone happened that never existed esp if you get a few key people adamant about it.

but yeah, I am sure this is all a farce too.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I can debunk these conspiracy theories in one sentence. Our government can not keep a secret, if it was a conspiracy it would have to have been a massive one and somebody would have talked about it by now.

That is EXACTLY what they want you to think.

Why would it have to be a huge group of people? It would just take a couple key people or just luck at the airports...then a few guys to wire up the buildings over how ever long they needed.

I could give one building falling like that, but two and then the third one is just crazy from a physics standpoint as well as construction.

To the other poster, when you learn to blow up things you are also learning how to have them fall...thinking otherwise is moronic. Demolition is more about the control of the structure than utterly decimating it.

So those planes we saw hitting the towers LIVE on television FILLED with people like Todd Beamer (from my town) - they were all in on it as well? :roll:

 

[LegendKiller]

it was the plane that brought down the WTC. I have a coworker who was in the stairwell on 50th floor when the 2nd plane hit. He said the building whiped around like a rope ladder. He barely got out of the building when it pancaked. He knew one person still in the stairwell, that was rescued. All of them will tell you there were no explosives, just a simple structural failure.

Anybody who knows and understands how the WTC buildings were built also understands why they fell. Comparing them to any conventional building is intellectually bankrupt.

Ventura is an idiot. Sadly, I actually voted for him. He then proceeded to screw MN up horribly. He's a meathead and nothing else.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

I don't know what hit it...but it's not consistant with anything needing extingushing when the interior of the building on both sides is not fire damaged.

Like I said...I am not out to prove anything. It's just for discussion.

Try not to be like the other asshats by just focusing on me. Focus on the issue.

There is no discussion to be had, the experts (real experts, not basement engineers, etc) signed off on it years ago, there is no conspiracy or anything. The only thing we could possibly hope to do here is make a whole lot of ignorant noise since only a select few of us are even remotely qualified to have a meaningful opinion on the subject, and those people were already done with it some seven years ago!

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

So what exactly hit the Pentagon then, Mr. Conspiracy? Or are you going to be yet another truther that has no theory of their own but points out perceived holes in every other theory out there?

I don't know what hit it...but it's not consistant with anything needing extingushing when the interior of the building on both sides is not fire damaged.

Like I said...I am not out to prove anything. It's just for discussion.

Try not to be like the other asshats by just focusing on me. Focus on the issue.

I AM focusing on the issue. If you're worried about the fact that there weren't any 'burns' around the side of the impact hole, then tell me what else might have hit the pentagon.

http://www.brasscheck.com/vide...11/pentagon-aerial.jpg

That photo shows that the PLANE that hit the side of the building fucked it up pretty good. The thread below details why it was a plane and not a bomb or a missile or ANYTHING else. IF it were a bomb, then the top of the outermost section would have been destroyed too. Instead, we see that it collapsed because the plane hit below it at 300 mph.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

Argument over.

 

[LegendKiller]

As far as the pentagon, it was a fricking plane. They found engine parts and landing gear embedded in the structure.

Give it up already.