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jemcam

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: jemcam

Oh, right. That DOES explain why it's a conspiracy.

What's your point to this post, and post photos taken before rescue efforts or demolition began to prove this is true. Now you're REALLY pulling stuff out of your ass.

I don't understand this...you can view all the pentagon pics...regardless that there are no plane parts there, the interior of each room on the sides of the blast radius aren't burned at all and soft materials like cloth and paper fully intact.

...or are you just trying to derail the thread with absurdity.


No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?
 

mesthead21

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Jun 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
As far as the pentagon, it was a fricking plane. They found engine parts and landing gear embedded in the structure.

Give it up already.

Those were planted by Dubya himself. Didnt you know that????
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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In case you'd like to see those two idiots from Loose Change get shut down by Popular Mechanics, here's the links to the videos (I love watching how much of a little bitch "researcher" Bermas is):

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

snip

snip.

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane.

Like I said though, regardless of what hit the building. All accounts say it was an explosive.

 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
As far as the pentagon, it was a fricking plane. They found engine parts and landing gear embedded in the structure.

Give it up already.

They planted them there to make you think it was a plan. Open your eyes, SHEEPLE.

[/sarcasm], in case you didn't feel it from here
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

snip

snip.

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane.

Like I said though, regardless of what hit the building. All accounts say it was an explosive.


"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001

"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002

"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20

"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News

Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn?t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." Massachusetts News

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." dcmilitary.com November 16, 2001

"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said. Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.] NFPA Journal November 1, 2001
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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And if there was any confusion, I think Alky has been talking to DMC and had a meeting of the tin foil hats.
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: alkemyst

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane.

Like I said though, regardless of what hit the building. All accounts say it was an explosive.

[/quote]

That sums it up nicely, absolute ignorance of eyewitness accounts. The tinfoil-hats' way out of that, though, is saying these people aren't legitimate witnesses and have been paid off by the man. Either that or these people mistook a missle for a jet liner.
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

snip

snip.

Ok I will focus on the issue alone. An airplane hit the Pentagon period. At that time I was working on a project for DEA and their building is directly across I 395 from the Pentagon. The govies I worked this project with had offices on the 11th floor facing the Pentagon and a number of them saw the airplane.

Like I said though, regardless of what hit the building. All accounts say it was an explosive.


snip

They're all in on the conspiracy.

 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: jemcam

No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?

please give up...you simply either did not view the pictures or simply cannot understand them.

You can draw basically a clean line around all that was destoryed...everything on the inside of the line was gone and outside it looked totally fine...no charring, no partial melting...

Your dorm fire would be alot different than what they are claiming 'vaporized' a building segment.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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So who was the master planner of this conspiracy? GWB??

Wait, wasn't he able to keep the conspiracy behind the fixed elections a secret too??? Did any mainstream media outlet every find any 'evidence' of this since the only 'proof' ever offered from the tinfoil hat crowd were from blogs that constantly repeated what other conspiracy theorists were posting?

How can someone who is so incomponent able to have two major coverups and not have a single credible leak to the mainstream press in 8 years???

 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

There is no discussion to be had, the experts (real experts, not basement engineers, etc) signed off on it years ago, there is no conspiracy or anything. The only thing we could possibly hope to do here is make a whole lot of ignorant noise since only a select few of us are even remotely qualified to have a meaningful opinion on the subject, and those people were already done with it some seven years ago!

Dude most here if having this discussion in real life would mumble a few words about 'I don't know what do you think' meanwhile never raising their eyes from staring down at the floor.

By 'signing' off on these kinds of things, they sleep soundly at night.

Regardless of how qualified someone is here, no one that I know of has access to anything except what was provided to the media.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: jemcam

No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?

please give up...you simply either did not view the pictures or simply cannot understand them.

You can draw basically a clean line around all that was destoryed...everything on the inside of the line was gone and outside it looked totally fine...no charring, no partial melting...

Your dorm fire would be alot different than what they are claiming 'vaporized' a building segment.

So are you pretty much ignoring all the posts disproving your ridiculous theories?
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
13,941
1
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: jemcam

No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?

please give up...you simply either did not view the pictures or simply cannot understand them.

You can draw basically a clean line around all that was destoryed...everything on the inside of the line was gone and outside it looked totally fine...no charring, no partial melting...

Your dorm fire would be alot different than what they are claiming 'vaporized' a building segment.

Yup. Everything looks fine.
http://911review.org/_webimages/b06-DSC_0461-1.JPG
http://911review.org/_webimages/8116.JPG

mhmm... nothing obliterated here.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe...ocs/debris_large_2.jpg

Look at all those desks and papers that were untouched by the mystery plane / missile / alien!
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe.../docs/debris_large.jpg

Look man, I'm disproving your 'theory' using stupid conspiracy websites to do it. Give it up already. The aircraft that hit the Pentagon fucked up a huge portion of it. It burned the shit out of the inside of the building.
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
10,924
0
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

There is no discussion to be had, the experts (real experts, not basement engineers, etc) signed off on it years ago, there is no conspiracy or anything. The only thing we could possibly hope to do here is make a whole lot of ignorant noise since only a select few of us are even remotely qualified to have a meaningful opinion on the subject, and those people were already done with it some seven years ago!

Dude most here if having this discussion in real life would mumble a few words about 'I don't know what do you think' meanwhile never raising their eyes from staring down at the floor.

By 'signing' off on these kinds of things, they sleep soundly at night.

Regardless of how qualified someone is here, no one that I know of has access to anything except what was provided to the media.

Fuck all the science shit- what the fuck happened to all the people who were in the planes? How about the LIVE broadcast of the second plane hitting the tower? Explain what occured there in conspiracy format please so that maybe you can read what you will write, re-read it and then realize how fucking rediculous and stupid you sound.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Josh

Fuck all the science shit- what the fuck happened to all the people who were in the planes? How about the LIVE broadcast of the second plane hitting the tower? Explain what occured there in conspiracy format please so that maybe you can read what you will write, re-read it and then realize how fucking rediculous and stupid you sound.

Who is denying the planes hit? Can you comprehend a basic topic or are you so afraid that you think having a couple jetliners hitting two buildings did what it did perfectly identically to each other?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,967
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81
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: jemcam

No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?

please give up...you simply either did not view the pictures or simply cannot understand them.

You can draw basically a clean line around all that was destoryed...everything on the inside of the line was gone and outside it looked totally fine...no charring, no partial melting...

Your dorm fire would be alot different than what they are claiming 'vaporized' a building segment.

Yup. Everything looks fine.
http://911review.org/_webimages/b06-DSC_0461-1.JPG
http://911review.org/_webimages/8116.JPG

mhmm... nothing obliterated here.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe...ocs/debris_large_2.jpg

Look at all those desks and papers that were untouched by the mystery plane / missile / alien!
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe.../docs/debris_large.jpg

Look man, I'm disproving your 'theory' using stupid conspiracy websites to do it. Give it up already. The aircraft that hit the Pentagon fucked up a huge portion of it. It burned the shit out of the inside of the building.


Now go find the closeup pictures.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,414
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Josh

Fuck all the science shit- what the fuck happened to all the people who were in the planes? How about the LIVE broadcast of the second plane hitting the tower? Explain what occured there in conspiracy format please so that maybe you can read what you will write, re-read it and then realize how fucking rediculous and stupid you sound.

Who is denying the planes hit? Can you comprehend a basic topic or are you so afraid that you think having a couple jetliners hitting two buildings did what it did perfectly identically to each other?

Can you respond to some of the posts that prove your sorry ass wrong instead of picking and choosing.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,967
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Originally posted by: Ns1

So are you pretty much ignoring all the posts disproving your ridiculous theories?

oh yeah...I am wrong on that, an avgas fueled fire burns just like a dorm room cigarette butt falling to the carpet.

My bad.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,414
1,574
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ns1

So are you pretty much ignoring all the posts disproving your ridiculous theories?

oh yeah...I am wrong on that, an avgas fueled fire burns just like a dorm room cigarette butt falling to the carpet.

My bad.

lol, comical.

 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst


Who is denying the planes hit? Can you comprehend a basic topic or are you so afraid that you think having a couple jetliners hitting two buildings did what it did perfectly identically to each other?

what the hell are you even talking about? i think you are the one who can't comprehend a basic topic.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
13,941
1
0
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: jemcam

No, you did that long time ago. I'm just making fun of you.

Okay look man. Do you not realize that there were firefighters on the scene almost instantly? I don't know if you realize this, but when water or foam is put on a fire, IT GOES OUT. Doesn't that explain why portions are burned and other parts like wood and paper right next to the fire is not burned?

I lived in a house that caught on fire in the middle of the night. Many items like books that were under burned up beds were totally intact except for water damage. Even clothes inside a burned dresser were intact. The ceiling and roof in some rooms were completely burned out, gone, but yet some paper items inside that room were intact BECAUSE THE FIREMEN WERE PUTTING OUT THE FIRE SPRAYING WATER ON IT AS IT BURNED.

Or did the CIA do a black ops on my fraternity house in 1980 to test out their special stuff that makes wood burn and steel melt, yet paper is left intact?

please give up...you simply either did not view the pictures or simply cannot understand them.

You can draw basically a clean line around all that was destoryed...everything on the inside of the line was gone and outside it looked totally fine...no charring, no partial melting...

Your dorm fire would be alot different than what they are claiming 'vaporized' a building segment.

Yup. Everything looks fine.
http://911review.org/_webimages/b06-DSC_0461-1.JPG
http://911review.org/_webimages/8116.JPG

mhmm... nothing obliterated here.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe...ocs/debris_large_2.jpg

Look at all those desks and papers that were untouched by the mystery plane / missile / alien!
http://911research.wtc7.net/pe.../docs/debris_large.jpg

Look man, I'm disproving your 'theory' using stupid conspiracy websites to do it. Give it up already. The aircraft that hit the Pentagon fucked up a huge portion of it. It burned the shit out of the inside of the building.


Now go find the closeup pictures.

http://911review.org/brad.com/...t/b22-DSC_0494-1_2.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general70/GermanPent1.jpg
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/9...x/200109114-800JPG.JPG

I'm not doing your homework, but that's what I found. Again, nothing that doesn't look inconsistent with a plane slamming into a building.

Plus, what does your unsubstantiated belief that offices next to the crash were undisturbed offer to any of the 9/11 discussions? Even if you were to prove yourself correct, it would neither dispel the fact that a plane hit the building or the wacko conspiracy belief that a missile did.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
13,941
1
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Josh

Fuck all the science shit- what the fuck happened to all the people who were in the planes? How about the LIVE broadcast of the second plane hitting the tower? Explain what occured there in conspiracy format please so that maybe you can read what you will write, re-read it and then realize how fucking rediculous and stupid you sound.

Who is denying the planes hit? Can you comprehend a basic topic or are you so afraid that you think having a couple jetliners hitting two buildings did what it did perfectly identically to each other?

Wait, now you're saying that a plane DID hit the building? At least stick to one story when you're trying to bullshit everyone.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
55,414
1,574
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: alkemyst


Who is denying the planes hit? Can you comprehend a basic topic or are you so afraid that you think having a couple jetliners hitting two buildings did what it did perfectly identically to each other?

what the hell are you even talking about? i think you are the one who can't comprehend a basic topic.

he can't handle people proving him wrong so he puts his fingers in his ears and says "LALALALALALA". He has to do it so often that it's amazing he can type at all.
 
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