Intern loses 800,000 SSN

[mh47g]

I'd be lying if I said I would mind being a $200/hr consultant.

 

[Syrch]

Sorry but i have to side with the intern here. If someone really wanted that tape they coudl have easily have broken into the apartment shot the intern and taken them. I'd say the tape probably ended up in the trash as it was petty theft and not a targeted hit but the whole 'security" process they have is pretty retarded.

 

[Syrch]

Sorry but i have to side with the intern here. If someone really wanted that tape they coudl have easily have broken into the apartment shot the intern and taken them. I'd say the tape probably ended up in the trash as it was petty theft and not a targeted hit but the whole 'security" process they have is pretty retarded.

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: waggy
hahahah he is complaining because he is being blamed for it. WELL duh! it was stolen OUT OF HIS CAR!

I think you missed the point of how that was a systematically introduced failure... the fact that unencryped ssoc data was let out of the building was where the system failed. The fact that someone stole it from a car is a product of the above.

no i get it. the whole situation is absurd. if htey want to take it off site it needs to be done right.

but he is at fault. he left it in his car. he knew that it was a important paice of information and did not care.

while not 100% at fault he is i would say 90%. they should have had a better setup but he was in charge of it and blew it. i have no sympathy for him. hopefully he has learned

I really hope you work nowhere near IT security... this fvckup was 100% failure of the managent. It makes no difference if the kid lost it on the way to work, got mugged with it or had it stolen during a burglary from a safe in his apartment - it's completely irrelevant . The fact is the people running the show let EXTREMLY sensitive data out of the building without encryption and that's what jeopardized the security.

DING DING DING! This tape should be heavily encrypted, so it's worthless for anyone without the key. If it's not, then management should get canned from the top down.

 

[imported_quasi]

Old news here in Ohio, I was pissed when I first heard.

And even more pissed when I got a letter from the state telling me that my SSN was in the list. :|

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont understand why sensitive information like that would be allowed offsite, especially in the hands on an intern.

My sister is the CFO for a company, and that info is taken offsite nightly for backup/restoration purposes. Why it wasn't encrypted, or taken by the consultant, is another story.

There are many security companies that do this, they have properly trained people for it, they have armored cars for it, and they have vaults for it.
It isn't expensive either.
There is NO excuse for any company not to use such services with sensitive data, encrypted or not.

I agree 100%, that's why I feel sorry for the intern.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: ElFenix
their offsite backup plan is to have interns keep tapes overnight? wtf? and people want the government running the medical care system?

Heh...

"Their report also faults the chain of command, which was muddled by contractors. The Inspector General identified Jared Ilovar as "a 22-year-old, $10.50-an-hour employee" hired just three months earlier, who received his assignment from?another intern. The intern reported to a $125-an-hour consultant, who reported to another $200-an-hour consultant"

It does not surprise me that a highly paid consultant was behind this backup scheme.

 

[mugs]

Edit: Misread

 

[zerocool1]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont understand why sensitive information like that would be allowed offsite, especially in the hands on an intern.

in an unencrypted form.

 

[zerocool1]

and they say you can't do anything important as an intern...

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Sunner
There is NO excuse for any company not to use such services with sensitive data, encrypted or not.

even worse, this is the state of ohio we're talking about!

 

[BoomerD]

Stupid people who allow this kind of stuff to happen should be publicly executed...or at a minimum, put in public stocks so everyone can go by and throw shit at them. There is NO excuse for allowing this kind of information to be stolen. It should NEVER be allowed out of a safe environment unless it's heavily encrypted, and even then, it should be well guarded. Thefts of this kind of information can severely fuck up people's lives.

 

[Wheezer]

I hate the government.

I hate idiot people like this intern that refuses to acknowledge that his lack of common sense put the information of 800,00 people at risk.

I hate people like his superiors that would allow a moron like this to take that kind of information off site.

They are all worthless.

 

[Parasitic]

They trusted somebody who goes to DeVry for stuff like this?

 

[ballmode]

Ahhh local government

 

[rocadelpunk]

yah we've all gotten letters and what not on what to do (mom is tied into state retirement plans)

pain in the ass.

 

[crystal]

I don't see how can anyone blames the intern. The way the system is set up that is the true cause leads to this problem. Look at it this way, when they asked him to take the tape off site, is there any safe guard in place to prevent the lost or stolen of the tape? They asked him to bring it home and brought it back the next day which is what he did. Where he placed it after leave the office is of no consequence since they didn't provide a safe box or safe guard instructions for the tape at at the home.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
So...I just gotta wonder...did the intern also just happen to find....say $50K laying around somewhere?

There's way too much of this kind of crap happening over the past couple of years for it to just be "coincidence"...I tend to suspect that (at least in some of the cases) this info is being sold...not just conveniently stolen. How many petty theives would automatically steal this kind of stuff? I doubt there's a fence on every street corner just waiting for someone to unload a batch of SS numbers...

/me is a VERY suspicious bastard...

well, they said more cars were broken into, so that leaves me to believe it was just a bunch of thieves looking for stereos. My guess is they broke in, bagged whatever was lose, and ran. Sort the crap out later when you have time.

 

[GoingUp]

morons

 

[Goosemaster]

monday morning:

*intern walks in to the office, sees everyone fuming.....is handed a newspaper by his boss*


intern: Oh sh!T!!!! Dude...dude...dude due...like so my bad...I...was gone for like 2 seconds and boom! Dude....dude...like, next time..dude...I'll make sure I take them with me tonight.

*gets 'the finger*

intern: dude..hey dude..that is NOT cool. I got glass and sh!t all over my Corolla...dude....oh...dude..you are NOT going to fire me over that...dude...NOT fair man...it was only one time...dude....talk to me man....


ah fvk it..I'm going to class

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: ElFenix
their offsite backup plan is to have interns keep tapes overnight? wtf? and people want the government running the medical care system?

Heh...

"Their report also faults the chain of command, which was muddled by contractors. The Inspector General identified Jared Ilovar as "a 22-year-old, $10.50-an-hour employee" hired just three months earlier, who received his assignment from?another intern. The intern reported to a $125-an-hour consultant, who reported to another $200-an-hour consultant"

OMFG.

That is freaking ridiculous to the point of being upsetting.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

They never said if it was encrypted... they could possibly not be able to do anything at all if it was encrypted.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: waggy
hahahah he is complaining because he is being blamed for it. WELL duh! it was stolen OUT OF HIS CAR!

I think you missed the point of how that was a systematically introduced failure... the fact that unencryped ssoc data was let out of the building was where the system failed. The fact that someone stole it from a car is a product of the above.

no i get it. the whole situation is absurd. if htey want to take it off site it needs to be done right.

but he is at fault. he left it in his car. he knew that it was a important paice of information and did not care.

while not 100% at fault he is i would say 90%. they should have had a better setup but he was in charge of it and blew it. i have no sympathy for him. hopefully he has learned

NO. BAD WAGGY. UR THOTS AM BROKEN.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: ElFenix
their offsite backup plan is to have interns keep tapes overnight? wtf? and people want the government running the medical care system?

Heh...

"Their report also faults the chain of command, which was muddled by contractors. The Inspector General identified Jared Ilovar as "a 22-year-old, $10.50-an-hour employee" hired just three months earlier, who received his assignment from?another intern. The intern reported to a $125-an-hour consultant, who reported to another $200-an-hour consultant"

The rates they charge mean *nothing* at all to this article... who knows what those consultants were brought into do, and what they were allowed to change. A lot of times, issues like this will be pointed out, but no one can do anything about it because of 100 rules getting in their way.

Unless the idiots that broke into the cars were looking for just this item, chances are, they probably tossed it out somewhere.

 

[TheGizmo]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
So...I just gotta wonder...did the intern also just happen to find....say $50K laying around somewhere?

There's way too much of this kind of crap happening over the past couple of years for it to just be "coincidence"...I tend to suspect that (at least in some of the cases) this info is being sold...not just conveniently stolen. How many petty theives would automatically steal this kind of stuff? I doubt there's a fence on every street corner just waiting for someone to unload a batch of SS numbers...

/me is a VERY suspicious bastard...

If that was the objective.. I mean to sell the 800,000 numbers, then why not just sell a duplicate of the tape?