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uallas5

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Strike is over, at least for now. After pressure from the Biden admin on both sides, the union has agreed to return to work and continue negotiations about automation.


"The breakthrough Thursday came after port employers offered a 62% increase in wages over six years, according to people familiar with the matter."

The tentative agreement will keep the ports opened through next January while the two sides continue talking.
 

pcgeek11

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So your buddy got his whole fucking life ripped from him and you frame that as a good thing? Honest question, are you a sociopath?

What he did was illegal. There is a reason it is illegal for Air Traffic Controllers to go on strike. See if you can figure it out. We tried to tell him he was fucking up. He fucked around and found out.

No, I am not a sociopath. I believe in following the law of the land.
Are you?
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Well that was a big nothing burger.

Meanwhile a whole bunch of idiots hoarded paper products like paper towels and toilet paper, even though those are made in the US and don't come through the ports. amazing lol
What's funny is the initial toilet paper hoarding supposedly started in Japan because one random person tweeted that they import all their toilet paper from China which was being locked down from COVID, it got retweeted over and over, and then the run on toilet paper began in Japan despite the fact they don't import it from China. Within a couple of days it had spread worldwide.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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What he did was illegal. There is a reason it is illegal for Air Traffic Controllers to go on strike. See if you can figure it out. We tried to tell him he was fucking up. He fucked around and found out.

No, I am not a sociopath. I believe in following the law of the land.
Are you?
Was it illegal when St Ronnie sold weapons to Iran to fund Contra death squads in Nicaragua?
 

yottabit

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To be clear, Im not pro or anti union. I used to be president of my local chapter of the International Chemical Workers Union Council / AFL-CIO. Unions have their place, but they can be detrimental also. Ive been on both sides. On one hand, strongarming the company and telling them no-automation / no advancement is ridiculous. The union doesnt own the company-- its role is not to run the company or control it, its role is to provide competant labor to the company and fair wages and working conditions for the workers.

On the other hand, the apparent price gouging on the American consumer is getting out of control, and COVID era pricing is being used as a cover to absolutely rape end consumers on many things, a vast majority of which come through these ports. From $6K to $30K in a few years makes no sense whatsoever.






This could be ugly. This guy seems to be dead serious.
It's hilarious to me that this guy's mental model of Biden thought that he was going to strong arm the union by enforcing the Taft–Hartley Act. But instead pro-worker Biden, in actual reality, met with the ports and companies behind the scenes and encouraged them to give the union a huge raise. I wonder if Trump, who this guy adores, would have done the same thing were he in power?

 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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So you DO believe Ronnie Rayguns should have been prosecuted for his part in the Iran Contra bullshit?


The affair was investigated by Congress and by the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither investigation found evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[2] Additionally, U.S. Deputy Attorney General Lawrence Walsh was appointed independent counsel in December 1986 to investigate possible criminal actions by officials involved in the scheme. In the end, several dozen administration officials were indicted, including Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12]

Possibly more could have been done, but politics always seem to get in the way to some extent. I personally believe their intentions were good although the method was flawed.
 

BoomerD

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The affair was investigated by Congress and by the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither investigation found evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[2] Additionally, U.S. Deputy Attorney General Lawrence Walsh was appointed independent counsel in December 1986 to investigate possible criminal actions by officials involved in the scheme. In the end, several dozen administration officials were indicted, including Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12]

Possibly more could have been done, but politics always seem to get in the way to some extent. I personally believe their intentions were good although the method was flawed.

“I must have been out of the room when that was discussed.”
 

brycejones

Lifer
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The affair was investigated by Congress and by the three-person, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither investigation found evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[2] Additionally, U.S. Deputy Attorney General Lawrence Walsh was appointed independent counsel in December 1986 to investigate possible criminal actions by officials involved in the scheme. In the end, several dozen administration officials were indicted, including Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.[12]

Possibly more could have been done, but politics always seem to get in the way to some extent. I personally believe their intentions were good although the method was flawed.
Nothing like appointing the people investigating you.
 

Zorba

Lifer
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What's funny is the initial toilet paper hoarding supposedly started in Japan because one random person tweeted that they import all their toilet paper from China which was being locked down from COVID, it got retweeted over and over, and then the run on toilet paper began in Japan despite the fact they don't import it from China. Within a couple of days it had spread worldwide.
One thing with TP is before the lock downs probably 50% of TP used in the US was commercial grade. People going at work, school, restaurants, etc. But suddenly with the lock downs that shifted to 100% residential and the supply chain wasn't there. Similar things happen with food, dumping milk and cheese because it was going to commercial customers, meanwhile the retail shelves were empty.
 
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One thing with TP is before the lock downs probably 50% of TP used in the US was commercial grade. People going at work, school, restaurants, etc. But suddenly with the lock downs that shifted to 100% residential and the supply chain wasn't there. Similar things happen with food, dumping milk and cheese because it was going to commercial customers, meanwhile the retail shelves were empty.
Yep. It took time to shift the supply chain. I eventually saw commercial sized canned items with Sysco labels at my local grocery store in 2020.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Today's MAGA fantasy via Glenn Beck.

Did you know... that... Florida Governor Don Desantis single-handedly ended the port strike by threatening the workers with the national guard.
I doubt any of this is true. But think about it. How they want to brag about it in this context. Military forcing people to work. That's what MAGA is bragging about and championing.
 
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