Internet censorship and usage taxes coming soon?

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http://macdailynews.com/2015/02/10/...ft-toward-government-control-of-the-internet/

STATEMENT OF FCC COMMISSIONER AJIT PAI ON PRESIDENT OBAMA’S PLAN TO REGULATE THE INTERNET

Last night, Chairman Wheeler provided his fellow Commissioners with President Obama’s 332- page plan to regulate the Internet. I am disappointed that the plan will not be released publicly. The FCC should be as open and transparent as the Internet itself and post the entire document on its website. Instead, it looks like the FCC will have to pass the President’s plan before the American people will be able to find out what’s really in it.

In the coming days, I look forward to continuing to study the plan i detail. Based on my initial examination, however, several points are apparent.

First, President Obama’s plan marks a monumental shift toward government control of the Internet. It gives the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works. It’s an overreach that will let a Washington bureaucracy, and not the American people, decide the future of the online world. It’s no wonder that net neutrality proponents are already bragging that it will turn the FCC into the “Department of the Internet.” For that reason, if you like dealing with the IRS, you are going to love the President’s plan.

Second, President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet will increase consumers’ monthly broadband bills. The plan explicitly opens the door to billions of dollars in new taxes on broadband. Indeed, states have already begun discussions on how they will spend the extra money. These new taxes will mean higher prices for consumers and more hidden fees that they have to pay.

Third, President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet will mean slower broadband for American consumers. The plan contains a host of new regulations that will reduce investment in broadband networks. That means slower Internet speeds. It also means that many rural Americans will have to wait longer for access to quality broadband.

Fourth, President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet will hurt competition and innovation and move us toward a broadband monopoly. The plan saddles small, independent businesses and entrepreneurs with heavy-handed regulations that will push them out of the market. As a result, Americans will have fewer broadband choices. This is no accident. Title II was designed to regulate a monopoly. If we impose that model on a vibrant broadband marketplace, a highly regulated monopoly is what we’ll get. We shouldn’t bring Ma Bell back to life in this dynamic, digital age.

Fifth, President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet is an unlawful power grab. Courts have twice thrown out the FCC’s attempts at Internet regulation. There’s no reason to think that the third time will be the charm. Even a cursory look at the plan reveals glaring legal flaws that are sure to mire the agency in the muck of litigation for a long, long time.

And sixth, the American people are being misled about what is in President Obama’s plan to regulate the Internet. The rollout earlier in the week was obviously intended to downplay the plan’s massive intrusion into the Internet economy. Beginning next week, I look forward to sharing with the public key aspects of what this plan will actually do.

Source: FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai

My internet works fine right now. Government is going to make it suck.
 
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Red Squirrel

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The government will just keep trying to push these SOPA like bills and eventually one will pass. There really needs to be a rule that if a certain bill is overturned, they're not allowed to pass anything even remotely related for at least like 50 years.

Eventually the internet in the US will be like China where most things are blocked. This will affect more than just the US because most data centres ARE in the US so stuff will be blocked for everyone.

All this to please the greedy megacorporations. With all this, people will still find ways to pirate anyway.
 
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FUD. Is the guy also a paid lobbyist for Comcast?

Probably.

http://arstechnica.com/business/201...-merger-letters-that-politicians-sent-to-fcc/

*cough* propaganda.

probably looking to take tom wheelers spot at the FCC by being buddy buddy with isps.

Yep.

All I can think is that Wheeler must have already pissed off the major telecoms that they told him he wouldn't be allowed to be a lobbyist for them again, so he decided to say fuck it and actually do something.
 
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The government will just keep trying to push these SOPA like bills and eventually one will pass. There really needs to be a rule that if a certain bill is overturned, they're not allowed to pass anything even remotely related for at least like 50 years.

Eventually the internet in the US will be like China where most things are blocked. This will affect more than just the US because most data centres ARE in the US so stuff will be blocked for everyone.

All this to please the greedy megacorporations. With all this, people will still find ways to pirate anyway.

Just stop and go back and read the OP or know what's going on.
 

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Meaning

If something is working adequately well, leave it alone.

Origin

Humans seem to have the urge to improve things. Prehistoric hand-axes were made by repeatedly chipping small flakes off pebbles of flint with other hard objects. Million-year-old examples of these have been found that give the impression of being ruined by being chipped just one time too many. That pang of regret we have probably all felt after spoiling something by adding that unnecessary final touch was first faced by Ugg in his cave.

The thought may be Stone Age but the phrase 'if it ain't broke don't fix it', which sounds as though it might come from the Roosevelt or Truman era, is more recent than that. This one is widely attributed to T. Bert (Thomas Bertram) Lance, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget in Jimmy Carter's 1977 administration. He was quoted in the newsletter of the US Chamber of Commerce, Nation's Business, May 1977:

Bert Lance believes he can save Uncle Sam billions if he can get the government to adopt a simple motto: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He explains: "That's the trouble with government: Fixing things that aren't broken and not fixing things that are broken."

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it.html
 
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lxskllr

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You want more taxes and government regulations on how you can use the internet?
I want government protection from predatory ISPs, and want everyone from Netflix to granny to have the same access conditions and pricing. Alternately, I want to be able to go to the ISPs office, and put a bullet into the heads of the guys fucking me over. I'm ok with either solution, but I suspect more people will vote for the government regulation.
 

Jaskalas

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it is broken you dolt.

fast lanes and slow lanes and netflix having to pay isps to get to their customers is essentially what caused the internet to break.
And it'd be great if they fixed JUST that.

I assure you, it didn't take 332 pages to outlaw fast lanes, monopolies, and price gouging. There will be hidden gems in these pages.
 

Carson Dyle

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And it'd be great if they fixed JUST that.

I assure you, it didn't take 332 pages to outlaw fast lanes, monopolies, and price gouging. There will be hidden gems in these pages.

I'm amazed they could get all that in just 332 pages.
 

Carson Dyle

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Something that really pisses me off is that lawmakers in more than 20 states have caved in to (or taken money from) the ISP lobby to either completely ban municipal broadband services or severely limit them.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-won-limits-on-public-broadband-in-20-states/

If your town wants to build a fiber network and deliver Gbit broadband to the residents? Tough. Can't do it. You're stuck with the cable monopoly and shitty DSL.

This is something that the FCC is trying fight, for the good of the consumer. The ISP lobby is spending tens of millions of dollars fighting it.

http://arstechnica.com/business/201...ing-state-laws-that-harm-municipal-broadband/




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ImpulsE69

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Why are states agreeing to the Comcast / Time Warner merger?? Even with their rather steep (CA) stipulations, it's not like they've ever followed through on their previous requirements....just crazy.
 

norseamd

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My internet works fine right now. Government is going to make it suck.

Could you be any more fucking ignorant? No the internet does not work fine now and it was working ok just a few years ago. it might not seem any different but that is because the ISP companies have not done much of what they can do with the loss of net neutrality since the Verizon lawsuit.
 

norseamd

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I assure you, it didn't take 332 pages to outlaw fast lanes, monopolies, and price gouging. There will be hidden gems in these pages.

Probably. But this guy acts like the major problems do not exist and even so we have to look at the benefit to cost ratio which probably makes it worth passing this bullshit.
 
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Mark Levin interviews the FCC Commissioner on massive internet takeover


“We’re adopting solutions that won’t work, to a problem that doesn't exists, using legal authority we don’t have.”

Listen to the interview. Taxes, Rate Control, etc.

Ajit Pai has been saying all sorts of ridiculous bullshit lately and sorry but a right wing blog is shit for a source.

http://arstechnica.com/business/201...les-the-fccs-net-neutrality-regime-explained/

As noted earlier, the FCC plan is to avoid imposing the strictest portions of Title II in a legal process known as “forbearance.” ISPs have complained that forbearance is too onerous a process but the FCC made it sound pretty simple: the commission simply won’t apply things like rate regulation, unbundling, or new taxes and fees. There will also be “no burdensome administrative filing requirements or accounting standards,” the FCC said.

Fact is it really won't change much of anything but give the FCC the ability to enforce the rules that they had implemented back in 2010 until Verizon sued to have it overturned (wherein the Federal Court basically said, the FCC has those powers but first must classify them with Title II).

Honestly, while it's something, it's not likely to do a whole lot. We'd need something like local loop unbundling to actually make this the competitive market that the Republicans claim it is.

Our best hope is that municipal broadband will catch on, although it's fucking ridiculous how many states passed laws banning it (on behalf of the telecoms), although the FCC is working to try and do something about that as well. That or Google will find some way to start rolling out their fiber service much more widespread.

Hell you only have to look at what Google has done to see how full of shit the telecoms are with regards to their so called innovations. On top of that they are consistently some of it not the worst companies when it comes to customer service. They've basically been admitting to it and promising to improve it (which even if they do improve it it'll still likely be shit), but their promises are worthless.

http://arstechnica.com/business/201...ervice-unacceptable-says-cables-top-lobbyist/
 

clamum

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Just stop and go back and read the OP or know what's going on.
LOL. The same old "corporations and capitalism is evil" babble eh? I just scroll down when I see that username to the left because it'd be a waste of time reading the useless post.
 
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