internet censorship bill approved

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Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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The RIAA and MPAA are dancing in their offices and planning vacations having finally paid off enough people to get the bill approved. They tried to pass it months ago but it got tabled when people complained so they tried again and I guess enough people had assumed that last decision was final that their wasn't enough protest to stop it this time.

Wonder if they have contacted China on how to properly configure firewalls and DNS ?


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...unanimous-support.ars?comments=1#comments-bar
The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) sets up a system through which the US government can blacklist a pirate website from the Domain Name System, ban credit card companies from processing US payments to the site, and forbid online ad networks from working with the site. This morning, COICA unanimously passed the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"We are disappointed that the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning chose to disregard the concerns of public-interest groups, Internet engineers, Internet companies, human-rights groups and law professors in approving a bill that could do great harm to the public and to the Internet," said Public Knowledge president Gigi Sohn, who pledged to craft a "more narrowly tailored bill" next year to deal with "rogue websites."
But the content industries don't mind the current version. Bob Pisano, who runs the MPAA, trotted out the "2.4 million hard working, middle-class jobs in all 50 states" that his industry creates. "For these workers and their families, digital theft means declining incomes, lost jobs and reduced health and retirement benefits," he said. "Unfortunately, this means nothing to the operators of rogue websites who seek to benefit illegally from the hard work of others."
The industry is well aware that "censorship" doesn't go down well with many Americans, so it has been playing up the "free speech protections" in the bill lately. RIAA CEO Mitch Bainwol made sure to stress the point again this morning.
"With this first vote, Congress has begun to strike at the lifeline of foreign scam sites, while protecting free speech and boosting the legal online marketplace," he said. "Those seeking to thwart this bipartisan bill are protecting online thieves and those who gain pleasure and profit from de-valuing American property."
That last jibe is the sort of comment made by those who can't understand why, say, people accused of horrific crimes still get defense lawyers. ("Why do you want murderers to go free?") It's sad to see Bainwol resort to it. As we noted earlier this week, we have concerns about this approach that are premised in large part on the content industries' almost comically misguided attempts to lock down or shutter innovative technologies and websites that turn out in fact to be legal and hugely useful—like the VCR, HD radio, MP3 players, HDTV, DAT, and YouTube.
Giving that industry a special process, one that doesn't apply to sites that traffic in other sorts of illegal-in-the-US-activity, raises concerns that have nothing to do with a love of widespread piracy. COICA could censor even sites that "enable or facilitate a violation" of copyright, it mucks about with DNS, and it actually requires the US Attorney General to keep a list of "naughty" sites even though no action has been taken against them. There has to be a more careful approach.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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I foresee a Russian DNS battling it out with the American ones
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Oh, btw, the real "censorship" is taking place in courtrooms where corporations are now suing anyone who says anything bad about them...

Gotta wonder how this will affect review sites like AnandTech.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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No. absolutely not.

It's like our politicians don't want me living in America anymore. I mean wtf?
 

Beev

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2006
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Is this going to block TPB, etc? If not, who cares?

Blocking US payments? Who the hell was PAYING for pirated things?
 

Legendary

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Jan 22, 2002
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this thread is mildly wrong, this bill was blocked after committee

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/83999/20101119/oregon-senator-opposes-bill-to-block-sites.htm


A bill that would authorize the U.S. attorney general to shut down web sites accused of copyright infringement has met opposition from Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

Wyden says the bill is too broad and vowed to prevent it from coming to a vote unless it is changed. The bill, called the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (S 3804) says that the attorney general, after making his case before a judge, can order internet service providers to block access to web site's domain name if that site is infringing copyrights. On Thursday the Judiciary Committee submitted it to the full Senate with a 19-0 vote.
 

xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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Awesome, I can just see it now:

"This website is making too much money."

"Rogue. Shut it down."
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Is this going to block TPB, etc? If not, who cares?

Blocking US payments? Who the hell was PAYING for pirated things?

'Merica, FUCK YEA!

Pirate Bay won't exist for people who don't know any workarounds, and it sets a dangerous precedent. The government has no business censoring networks. The Paying For clause is probably for Rapidshare, Usenet and such.

Don't you feel free?
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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thanks for that update legendary.

I swear if they passed this shit, I'll just move to China. I mean why not? We're starting to model our government after theirs, but not our economy. I might as well go to where the future is if we're going to keep trying to kill this nation.
 

Legendary

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Jan 22, 2002
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dollars to donuts the bill will be proposed again next year, but they'll have to rewrite it, and even then senators are allowed to place holds on bills. maybe we'll dodge this as a whole for another couple of years
 

Lamont Burns

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I work with an immigrant from China, a female, who some times halfheartedly jokes that she should just move back to China b/c she felt more free there.
 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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Can we get rid of congress and try a dictatorship for a bit? Maybe we could get Castro to come by and help out. Anything has to be better then the government we have.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Can we get rid of congress and try a dictatorship for a bit? Maybe we could get Castro to come by and help out. Anything has to be better then the government we have.

If we're going to try dictatorship, I volunteer.

I'll make it legal to marry anyone or anything you like, although if said thing is not human marital benefits may not apply.

I'll expand on the recent supreme court ruling and make it law that a state must at minimum have a reasonable shall-issue system to allow it's citizens to carry a concealed handgun. I'll also make restrictions on magazine capacity and the exact nature of said carry (ie: you must carry unloaded) illegal.

I'll legalize marijuana with restrictions similar to those applied to tobacco.

I'll continue to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and make moderate cuts to military funding.

I'll reform and restrict welfare to minimize abuse.

I'll assemble an economic team of actual private industry veterans and noted economists to solve the economic crisis. There are people who know what they're talking about when it comes to this stuff, I intend to find them.

I'll come down hard on businesses that hire illegal immigrants, including a substantial boost of funds to ICE to ensure greater enforcement. I'll deploy the national guard to particularly troubled areas of the border to ensure security. One way or another, even if it's just a bigass wall, the border will be sealed. Once the border is sealed, discussion of a "path to citizenship" may begin. One option will be a minimum 5 years military service similar to the French Foreign Legion.

I will make English the national language of the United States. If you want to speak another language that's fine, but the government works in English.

and finally (for the stuff off the top of my head) I'll make Dodgeball and Tag mandatory curriculum in public schools.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
57,659
7,892
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If we're going to try dictatorship, I volunteer.

I'll make it legal to marry anyone or anything you like, although if said thing is not human marital benefits may not apply.

I'll expand on the recent supreme court ruling and make it law that a state must at minimum have a reasonable shall-issue system to allow it's citizens to carry a concealed handgun. I'll also make restrictions on magazine capacity and the exact nature of said carry (ie: you must carry unloaded) illegal.

I'll legalize marijuana with restrictions similar to those applied to tobacco.

I'll continue to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and make moderate cuts to military funding.

I'll reform and restrict welfare to minimize abuse.

I'll assemble an economic team of actual private industry veterans and noted economists to solve the economic crisis. There are people who know what they're talking about when it comes to this stuff, I intend to find them.

I'll come down hard on businesses that hire illegal immigrants, including a substantial boost of funds to ICE to ensure greater enforcement. I'll deploy the national guard to particularly troubled areas of the border to ensure security. One way or another, even if it's just a bigass wall, the border will be sealed. Once the border is sealed, discussion of a "path to citizenship" may begin. One option will be a minimum 5 years military service similar to the French Foreign Legion.

I will make English the national language of the United States. If you want to speak another language that's fine, but the government works in English.

and finally (for the stuff off the top of my head) I'll make Dodgeball and Tag mandatory curriculum in public schools.

I can live with that, but I prefer to be dictator :^P
 
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