Internet Connection Speeds...

[Trente]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Trente
All I am saying is that major sites on the internet are mostly located in America. Do you agree with me?

I'll say this again: MOST MAJOR SITES ARE IN THE USA. you are a British/Belgian on a major American hardware site. the most popular hardware sites out there are American = major sites in this specific field are in USA. so far so good?

same goes for other fields. America is the most influential country in the world in most fields - and I only gave one tiny example. do you agree?

if so, then you can say the same about the internet: the most "influential" (please notice the "") websites are American. so far so good?

An American person will be able to enjoy a better surfing experience because he is routed better to MOST MAJOR sites; routing does affect even a simple task of surfing. that is why native sites load faster. do you agree?

if so, then you agree with the fact that your ISP has a better routing in your country than outside the country. same goes for the other side: if an American is surfing to a European site, it is obvious that you guys who are located in Europe will be able to load it faster. so far so good?

BTW, no need to call anyone moron here. we are arguing and that is fine. I stick with my LOGICAL say.

yeah,

I'm sure that the 30ms seconds in ping difference will significantly decrease my surf experience on anandtech,

:roll:

keep going :thumbsup:

can you give another quote about the "centralized" internet, please

more routers = bigger potential for problems as you throw in more "factors" (that can go wrong like anything else) into the picture. also, more links = more bottlenecks. we all know that the weakest link determines the all-around quality of your connection.

If I surf directly from a station located in an ISP office (no cable/dsl to go through - just a LAN connected directly to one of the ISP's routers), my experience is much better than at home, where I have to go through local routing points up until I reach my ISP. It has nothing to do with bandwidth [as any ISP's bandwidth to sites abroad is poor next to any local LAN that regular cable/dsl customers have to go through "to get to the internet"] - it is all about routing: more "hops" and points are added into the mix.

I want to note again: i'm not an American nore am I an America fanboy. I would, too, like to enjoy the internet at its best. I really have nothing against the EU or anyone else, I just wanted to state simple facts.

 

[Trente]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: randal

First, define 'major' sites.
Second, you are saying that the closer the server is to you the better connection you get. Well if I'm on a 10Mbit line (in Sweden) and you are on a 1Mbit line (in US) and we both visit CNN.com, I am sure as hell going to load the site faster than you, unless CNN is bogged down.

Nah, if I'm 10 hops from CNN on a "broadband" (1+mbps) line, and you're 25 hops and an ocean away, CNN will *definitely* load faster locally, despite the fact that you may have 402 DS3s hooked up to your computer.

the difference between 0,5 and 0,8 seconds

that is the "surfing" experience Trente is talking about

the dude acts like he is connected with his brains to the intarweb backbone through an STM-4 while claiming that the internet is a centralized network :roll:

I agree with randal. FrustratedUser also stated that a 10M connection in Sweden will load CNN faster than a 1M connection in the US. well, I think not. It will be faster and far more reliable for the favour of the American connection because even a 1M connection is an overkill for surfing to CNN. if we were to deal with a 256K in the US next to 10M in Sweden, I can almost assure you that it would load faster in Sweden.

 

[EyeMWing]

$50/month (or some crap like that) 3mbit down/256kbit up cable, and $500/month full T1 trunking my VPN (1.5/1.5)

The cable bites.

 

[Anubis]

3.0/384 currently, goes to 5.0/512 next month 34.99$ month

 

[freegeeks]

more routers = bigger potential for problems as you throw in more "factors" (that can go wrong like anything else) into the picture. also, more links = more bottlenecks. we all know that the weakest link determines the all-around quality of your connection.

If I surf directly from a station located in an ISP office (no cable/dsl to go through - just a LAN connected directly to one of the ISP's routers), my experience is much better than at home, where I have to go through local routing points up until I reach my ISP. It has nothing to do with bandwidth [as any ISP's bandwidth to sites abroad is poor next to any local LAN that regular cable/dsl customers have to go through "to get to the internet"] - it is all about routing: more "hops" and points are added into the mix.

I want to note again: i'm not an American nore am I an America fanboy. I would, too, like to enjoy the internet at its best. I really have nothing against the EU or anyone else, I just wanted to state simple facts.

the simple fact that the internet is a centralized network??

 

[shortylickens]

I am in the middle of the Mojave Desert in California.
In the barracks we have MediaCom. They finally got us cable internet a year after the digital cable hook ups were all complete.
I pay $49 (plus $5 modem rental) a month with no TV service.
Usually I can TEST at 3Mb per second. But I never actually get that unless I am using Download Accelerator Plus (one of the older versions) and downloading 8 streams from at least 4 different FTP sites.
I can get Linux DVD's in a flash. I have not found any regular web sites that'll upload to me faster than good DSL.

For reference I use:
http://www.2wire.com/
http://192.168.100.1/moreinfo.html
to check my connection.

Before I get burned: I am aware anything starting with a 192 is not considered a real website.

File sharing doesnt work so fast, but I think its because of all the folks still on Dial Up and slow DSL.

 

[revnja]

You guys are all lucky. I have 256k/128k service and i pay $55/mo for it. Used to have 768/192kbps service (paying $119/mo for that), but had to ditch it because spending money on school is more important. I'm in Alaska, so I guess that would explain it.

 

[Toki]

im rather jealous, thats all i have to say.

 

[JWU42]

RR's newer Premium @ 6Mbps/512 Kbps

 

[skyking]

I get 1.5/256 cable for $36. I am out in the sticks, and it is with a very small local company. Comcast is out here, but at $46, It is not worth it for me to get 3.0/256. If it was 3.0/512, now that I might do!

 

[Cheval]

3Mb down/512Kb up for $37 a month.

 

[Acanthus]

1500 down, 384 up

Verizon DSL $35 a month

 

[JulesMaximus]

Typical download speeds for me at home are 200-300kbps depending more on the server than my connection. I've seen close to 500kpbs at times.

 

[Splork]

~6Mb Down/ 384Kb Up

-sp

 

[RMSistight]

6Mbps/608k

 

[g8wayrebel]

Average about 3 1/2 mb down and 320k up (real #'s) w/ charter. Three licenses for Av and firewall for 42.95 p/mo.

 

[midwestfisherman]

3 M down / 256 K up

 

[Arclite]

512/128

$50/month

 

[Rami7007]

I NEED COMCAST!!!! My DSL sucks to the brim... all my friends on comcast cable get abot 300 - 400 kp/s downloads while i get about 170 kp/s!?!?!?!

anyway... at the moment ive got 384 kb/s UP and 2912 kb/s DOWN

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: freegeeks
4600 down / 256 up - ADSL

will be replaced by a 10mbit VDSL in a couple of weeks :thumbsup:

wow

 

[amol]

3000down/384up cable

 

[Stas]

49.2 Kbps
Dial-up $11

LOL

 

[DerwenArtos12]

i'm paying for 4.5mbps and getting it and paying for 512kbps up and getting it so i'm pretty damn happy.
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[ectx]

Originally posted by: Anubis
3.0/384 currently, goes to 5.0/512 next month 34.99$ month

Wow. Which ISP do your use?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: phillx800

Originally posted by: Amused
4mb down, 356kb up

InsightBB cable.

DSL Reports speeds:

3718kb down 351kb up

Words cant express what Im thinking right about now...

Does it ever max out for downloading? Is it a very expensive connection?

Heres my test... (I used Mega Path if that makes any difference...) slower than normal..

It's about $45 a month. Yes, it does max out, but not all the time. My connection is often faster than sites I visit, and my speeds are limited by them.

If you buy digital cable from Insight, you get $10 off = $35.00 per month.


Typical Speeds InsightBB basic package.