Internet Temporary Files on SSD

[Coolharmony2]

Hi,

My Internet Temporary files and others files of same kind went on the SSD.

Is it important to put these files on the another hard drive ?

Can these files affect the lifetime of the SSD.

I have 85 Gb available on my SSD for the moment.

At each day, i lost .1 GB and Why ?

Thank-you !

 

[corkyg]

I put those files on a different drive - my data drive. They do provide some means of site access speed by having certain files on hand. Personally, I find that speed increase to be not very significant. You can also limit the space allocated to those files. from 50 to, 250MB. I use 50MB. Since those files can be written to every time you surf, they can affect the ultimate life of the SSD.

 

[Coolharmony2]

How can i modify the choice of the hard drive for these files ?

Can you send me some easy steps ?

I have Windows 7

I dont want to have problems.

 

[tynopik]

i leave them on ssd because i do find a significant difference and it doesn't impact the lifespan in a meaningful way

 

[jhansman]

Mine are on my "D" drive, along with everything else I deem unworthy of my SSD. You don't say what browser you are using, but you can Google a solution quickly.

 

[DarkRogue]

I put everything on my SSD; page file, temp files, browser files, photoshop scratch disk, etc. I use it heavily, and I still don't see my SSD wearing out before I replace it in 10 years.

Don't worry about it. Only thing is to just clear the temp files if you're running low on space.

 

[Coolharmony2]

I am using Internet Explorer for Windows 7.

The SSD 128 is the C:

My another hard drive 1tb is E:

The SSD is the Crucial M4 128.

How the life time could be reduce if i continue to safe temporary internet files on the ssd?

 

[billyb0b]

yes, i would certainly put temp browser files on a mechanical HD vice your SSD

IE, Firefox, and Opera allow you place these files anywhere you like. I don't use Chrome so I cannot comment on it

 

[billyb0b]

How can i modify the choice of the hard drive for these files ?

Can you send me some easy steps ?

I have Windows 7

I dont want to have problems.

firefox - http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/768867

ie - http://www.w7forums.com/move-internet-temporary-file-t9148.html

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

Unless you are extremely limited on space I would leave them on the SSD.

With our SSDs you can figure that you can write 20GB of data every day for 5 year without wearing out the drive. So you really don't need to worry about the wear on the Intel SSDs.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I can't believe people actually do this on >120gb drives. It seems silly to me but to each their own!

 

[F1shF4t]

I am using Internet Explorer for Windows 7.

The SSD 128 is the C:

My another hard drive 1tb is E:

The SSD is the Crucial M4 128.

How the life time could be reduce if i continue to safe temporary internet files on the ssd?

Well consider this, your M4 will be able to write over 200TB before reaching the rated life of the NAND. Or to put it in another way, if you write the full capacity of the SSD (That's 128GB) every day it will last for over 4 years.

So no, leave them where they are. The only reason to move stuff off is if you're running out of space.

 

[Zxian]

Modern SSDs have little to no issues with write wear. As many have said, you can write very large amounts of data to your SSDs every day and still have plenty of life left.

Unless you have issues with free space, leave all your temp files and pagefiles on the SSD. It will not adversely affect the performance or lifespan of your drive.

 

[KingFatty]

So did anyone do the math on this - how much lifetime is reduced by keeping the files on the SSD?

I'll do a guess using my head, and estimate that the SSD would last approximately 1 second longer by using this trick, before it eventually dies and becomes read-only.

 

[tweakboy]

I put everything on my SSD; page file, temp files, browser files, photoshop scratch disk, etc. I use it heavily, and I still don't see my SSD wearing out before I replace it in 10 years.

Don't worry about it. Only thing is to just clear the temp files if you're running low on space.

You don't need a page file when you have 8GB or more. You need to go and disable it and say no page and set it. Your slowing down your system by making a swap file. Go set them to none,

Do you even know what the page file is ? It's for when you run out of ram or close to it it will use that pagefile on your drive to act as RAM, and its slow slow slow. Turn it off

 

[Auric]

Purposefully reducing performance by moving to HDD is folly. Leave them on the SSD as longevity is not an issue, or if not needed for long then use RAM instead by setting cache to 0.

 

[Carson Dyle]

I leave everything on the SSD for improved performance (and have no page file). The only thing that I explicitly move to a data drive is application data that is generated in the 10's of gigabytes.

 

[Coolharmony2]

I have a email software on the SSD.

Should I delete all the time my emails or wait that the SSD will be full at 100 % ?

Should I delete internet Temporary files or wait that the SSD will be full at 100% ?

 

[kmmatney]

I have a email software on the SSD.

Should I delete all the time my emails or wait that the SSD will be full at 100 % ?

Should I delete internet Temporary files or wait that the SSD will be full at 100% ?

I used to run a RAM drive, and stored temporary files there, but it became too much of a nuisance over time, as browsers (at least Chrome) isn't setup to work like that. So now I just put everything on the SSD, and run CCleaner every so often to clear stuff out.

Even running CCleaner, you will still lose HD space over time if you are running windows 7, due to the "c:\windows\winsxs" folder, which naturally gets larger over time.

 

[DarkRogue]

You don't need a page file when you have 8GB or more. You need to go and disable it and say no page and set it. Your slowing down your system by making a swap file. Go set them to none,

Do you even know what the page file is ? It's for when you run out of ram or close to it it will use that pagefile on your drive to act as RAM, and its slow slow slow. Turn it off

Blanket statements like these are never a good idea.
While many people have gotten along just fine without a page file, it is still recommended to have something available for legacy applications, and just for overall system stability, in case anything wants to use or expects the presence of such a file. In the end, a small amount of space taken up is inconsequential unless you are on really tiny SSD's.

"You['re] slowing down your system by making a swap file."
I don't see how this can possibly be true. Yes, I know what a page file is for, and as you yourself stated, it is for when the system runs out of RAM. How, then, does your system slow down if you don't actually run out of RAM? Furthermore, in the event that your system DOES run out of RAM, how would not having a pagefile help (BSOD) or having it on a traditional HDD make it faster (it won't.)? I already have my page file set to a static size to cover my needs.

You are also making large assumptions about my usage scenarios.
I process and edit large RAW files from my cameras in Lightroom and Photoshop on a regular basis, along with many other tasks. While I have made sure to have a good amount of RAM available (16GB) there may be cases where I may run out, especially if I am working on a RAW file with many layers. In extreme cases, one RAW with 7-8 layers can easily consume 6GB of RAM.

This comment is also vastly off topic for this discussion, as my recommendation was not to disable the page file, but to simply leave everything on the SSD, to take advantage of its speed. There's little point in getting an SSD, then not utilizing it.

 

[yours truly]

As much as I like Chrome, I really dislike the way it installs itself on my c drive without letting me change the destination drive, same goes for adobe.

I know there are ways around it but it's still a pita.

 

[Zxian]

There's little point in getting an SSD, then not utilizing it.

:thumbsup:

 

[aviator78]

I left everything like internet temp files on my SSD. Why change it? You can not wear the SSD out in its normal time until replacement.

 

[tweakboy]

Blanket statements like these are never a good idea.
While many people have gotten along just fine without a page file, it is still recommended to have something available for legacy applications, and just for overall system stability, in case anything wants to use or expects the presence of such a file. In the end, a small amount of space taken up is inconsequential unless you are on really tiny SSD's.

"You['re] slowing down your system by making a swap file."
I don't see how this can possibly be true. Yes, I know what a page file is for, and as you yourself stated, it is for when the system runs out of RAM. How, then, does your system slow down if you don't actually run out of RAM? Furthermore, in the event that your system DOES run out of RAM, how would not having a pagefile help (BSOD) or having it on a traditional HDD make it faster (it won't.)? I already have my page file set to a static size to cover my needs.

You are also making large assumptions about my usage scenarios.
I process and edit large RAW files from my cameras in Lightroom and Photoshop on a regular basis, along with many other tasks. While I have made sure to have a good amount of RAM available (16GB) there may be cases where I may run out, especially if I am working on a RAW file with many layers. In extreme cases, one RAW with 7-8 layers can easily consume 6GB of RAM.

This comment is also vastly off topic for this discussion, as my recommendation was not to disable the page file, but to simply leave everything on the SSD, to take advantage of its speed. There's little point in getting an SSD, then not utilizing it.

Were friend here, Im your friend. Sorry if I offended you in any way but thanks for responding. Now I see what you do with the RIG. Yes people like you need lots of RAM and lots of CORES and SSD to boot..,,, gimme a hug!

But the reason it makes it slower is it accesses the swap file when you already have 8GB for no reason and that adds lag since its thrashing your HD for no reason. swapo file off 4GB or more,, is my O....

 

[Zxian]

But the reason it makes it slower is it accesses the swap file when you already have 8GB for no reason and that adds lag since its thrashing your HD for no reason. swapo file off 4GB or more,, is my O....

No, for the umpteenth time, it doesn't. Windows may change the status of virtual memory to the paged pool, but it doesn't actually write those pages of memory to disk unless there is insufficient physical memory (there's a difference between a page in memory and the pagefile).

Any potential performance improvements gained by disabling the pagefile are minimal at best (usually just placebo), and prevent you from ever getting a kernel memory dump in the event of a crash. You might not be able to figure out why a system at stock settings is crashing by looking at the dump file, but others can. 1GB is usually sufficient to give you the information you need.

I realize your name is Tweakboy, but there are some tweaks that actually hurt more than they help. Disabling the pagefile is one of them.