Internet Tethering: Droid vs. iPhone. Pros and Cons?

Rerednaw

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I'm considering throwing money at a cell-carrier and was wondering if someone could explain the pros and cons of tethering with the droid or the iphone.

I've seen it with the Droid, I've heard it is possible with the iPhone.

What's the cost? Do the carriers force bottlenecks?

Thanks!
 

Brian Stirling

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There is still no tethering permitted on the iPhone in the USA. I'm guessing ATT wants Apple to prevent implementation to limit bandwidth use and Apple most be getting enough kick-backs from ATT to justify there failure to add it.

This is one of the reasons that when my iPhone contract is up in a couple month I'll be switching to an HTC Evo from Sprint. Not the only reason to be sure but the more I've dealt with Apple and ATT the less I want to...


Brian
 

gorcorps

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There is still no tethering permitted on the iPhone in the USA. I'm guessing ATT wants Apple to prevent implementation to limit bandwidth use and Apple most be getting enough kick-backs from ATT to justify there failure to add it.

This is one of the reasons that when my iPhone contract is up in a couple month I'll be switching to an HTC Evo from Sprint. Not the only reason to be sure but the more I've dealt with Apple and ATT the less I want to...


Brian

*cough* not OFFICIAL tethering anyway
 

BigSmooth

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It's dead simple on an Android phone if you use a non-market app called PDANet. Linky: http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php

I don't think any carrier technically allows you to do this, but the consequences would likely depend on their internal policies and the amount of usage. You might get no response, you might hit a soft cap, you might be blacklisted - it really just depends.
 

rudeguy

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It's dead simple on an Android phone if you use a non-market app called PDANet. Linky: http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php

I don't think any carrier technically allows you to do this, but the consequences would likely depend on their internal policies and the amount of usage. You might get no response, you might hit a soft cap, you might be blacklisted - it really just depends.

PDANet or if you root, it comes on pretty much all ROM's. It came in very handy when I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.4 and lost my wireless drivers for my laptop. Just checked the "allow tethering" box and I had the intarwebs!
 

Bateluer

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PDANet or if you root, it comes on pretty much all ROM's. It came in very handy when I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.4 and lost my wireless drivers for my laptop. Just checked the "allow tethering" box and I had the intarwebs!

Yep, usually works in Linux too.
 

senseamp

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I am kind of thinking of getting an Android phone and ditching my cable connection. Just do web browsing on my PC.
 

pm

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Once you jailbreak it (and there's now a jailbreak for the latest iPhone), then PDANet is available for the iPhone too. Probably preferrable is the "Mi-Fi" app which is a little slicker to use. But AT&T strongly discourages tethering, and jailbreaking your iPhone violates the warranty terms.

I would think that if I wanted to tether, I'd probably go with the Droid.
 

sswingle

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It's dead simple on an Android phone if you use a non-market app called PDANet. Linky: http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php

I don't think any carrier technically allows you to do this, but the consequences would likely depend on their internal policies and the amount of usage. You might get no response, you might hit a soft cap, you might be blacklisted - it really just depends.

PDAnet is in the market...at least for the Moto Droid and Droid Eris on Verizon.
 

Pliablemoose

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You want to do a wired tether?

If you root your Android OS'd phone, you can do a wireless tether, it's pretty slick.

I believe the MyFi does wireless tether as well.
 

zylander

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MyWi (not MyFi) is awesome if you have a jailbroken iPhone. Turns your iPhone into a WAP allowing any wireless device (laptop, desktop, iPod touch, PSP, ect.) to connect to the iPhone and access the internet. I used this when I went on vacation a few months ago so I didnt have to pay $10/night to use the hotels WiFi.
 

Bateluer

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I am kind of thinking of getting an Android phone and ditching my cable connection. Just do web browsing on my PC.

Might want to test that for a bit before you actually sever the land line. Obviously, you'll pretty much lose the ability to play games, video conferencing, or stream anything more than low res Youtube videos. No Netflix or Hulu for you. And you'll be subject to the 5Gb per month bandwidth limit too.
 

dguy6789

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With tethering:

You'd be able to play online games, just not first person shooters(You could try of course, but it wouldn't be very pretty). Something like an RTS should work fine. T-Mobile has a 10GB per month limit. With good reception, you should consistently be getting over 1mbps download on 3G. 4G is right around the corner for at least two of the US carriers.

The only real problem are the data caps. Otherwise, it's the same internet, just a bit slower than what you're used to(but still an order of magnitude faster than dial up) 4G services are supposed to not have data caps so we'll have to see how that goes. If 4G ends up being good enough, I'll get rid of my landline cable and internet services and just use 4G.
 

vshah

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with good tmobile signal in NY, i get 1.7mbps down, 1.3 up. faster upload than my cable internet, actually. the only concern is latency and bandwidth caps.
 

corkyg

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I tried tethering for a couple of years, but I found a good connection card, PCMCIA or Express, to be far superior.
 

pm

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I tried tethering for a couple of years, but I found a good connection card, PCMCIA or Express, to be far superior.

That's interesting. I'd think it would be about the same. When you say "far superior" what do you mean? Less latency, less dropped packets, higher bandwidth?
 

corkyg

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Yes - on the same network. Biggest advantage is better bandwidth in a connection card slot - not subject to USB flakiness. This is my current card - it is a combo, either PCMCIA or Express.



I also tried a AT&T Quicksilver for 6 months - it was USB and sucked. A lot of that due to poor AT&T signal strength in places I went to.
 

vshah

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Yes - on the sdame network. Biggest advantage is better bandwidth in a connection card slot - not subject to USB flakiness. This is my current card - it is a combo, either PCMCIA or Express.



odd, i would imagine that usb would provide plenty of bandwidth for a couple mbps up or down over a cell network. I can see the phone itself introducing some latency into the equation though.
 

Slick5150

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I've gotten decent results tethering w/ my Palm Pre on Sprint (Mobile Hotspot app FTW). But I sure wouldn't want to use it as my primary internet access.
 
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So tethering is connecting other devices to the internet through a cell phone carriers data plan?

What other phones besides the Droid does this? BBs?
 

Bateluer

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With tethering:

You'd be able to play online games, just not first person shooters(You could try of course, but it wouldn't be very pretty). Something like an RTS should work fine.

I disagree, you're SOL for any online gaming other than Chess, Checkers, Hearts, and other card games. There's a heavy latency issue with all current wireless technologies.

You can try playing some RTS games, see how they go, but be prepared for a lot of game lag and drops. Of course, forget about FPSs and MMOs of any kind.

May be an entirely moot point for the OP though, as they reported they merely web surf and check email. For these things, tethering is fine.

I'm just saying to give it a full range of tests and benchmarks before you cut the landline connection, try stream Youtube, Hulu, Netflix, etc. Try play a few FPSs, RTSs, etc. Then you'll have a good idea of where you stand, and what you can and cannot do.
 

Bullhonkie

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I disagree, you're SOL for any online gaming other than Chess, Checkers, Hearts, and other card games. There's a heavy latency issue with all current wireless technologies.

You can try playing some RTS games, see how they go, but be prepared for a lot of game lag and drops. Of course, forget about FPSs and MMOs of any kind.

May be an entirely moot point for the OP though, as they reported they merely web surf and check email. For these things, tethering is fine.

I'm just saying to give it a full range of tests and benchmarks before you cut the landline connection, try stream Youtube, Hulu, Netflix, etc. Try play a few FPSs, RTSs, etc. Then you'll have a good idea of where you stand, and what you can and cannot do.

That's not true at all. I've seen a tethered Xbox 360 playing games over Xbox Live and it was actually very playable for the most part. There was definitely a slight but noticeable latency increase over DSL/cable, but it wasn't so bad that you couldn't adapt to it and still manage to play decently well. I've also seen people do WoW raids using a tethered iPhone with pretty much no problems at all. It was actually two people connecting to the iPhone via wifi surprisingly and both were able to complete the 3+ hour raid without a disconnect.
 

dguy6789

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I disagree, you're SOL for any online gaming other than Chess, Checkers, Hearts, and other card games. There's a heavy latency issue with all current wireless technologies.

You can try playing some RTS games, see how they go, but be prepared for a lot of game lag and drops. Of course, forget about FPSs and MMOs of any kind.

May be an entirely moot point for the OP though, as they reported they merely web surf and check email. For these things, tethering is fine.

I'm just saying to give it a full range of tests and benchmarks before you cut the landline connection, try stream Youtube, Hulu, Netflix, etc. Try play a few FPSs, RTSs, etc. Then you'll have a good idea of where you stand, and what you can and cannot do.

My ping was in the 200-300 range when I was doing latency tests on tether. That's in the dial-up range, and lots of games were playable on dial up, just not a perfect experience. I imagine this might vary significantly depending on one's distance from the cell tower though.
 

rudeguy

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odd, i would imagine that usb would provide plenty of bandwidth for a couple mbps up or down over a cell network. I can see the phone itself introducing some latency into the equation though.

having sold many, many data cards, I can tell you that USB sucks compared to a dedicated card. It should be right about the same...but it never is. USB data cards were the most frustrating thing I ever had to deal with. Most people went through at least 3 before they got one that worked half way right.
 
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