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LiuKangBakinPie

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You can either push the button in or you can pull the handle back. It also turns off if you touch the brakes or the clutch.


Speaking of which, cruise control on Toyotas is stupid. On my Civic and Impreza, it's on the steering wheel. In a Corolla, it's on that stick. I need to take a hand off the wheel to use it. What if I only had 1 hand? What if I had 2 hands but one of them was using my iphone to gps track my kids? That means I need to take both hands off the wheel and everyone dies just because some engineer thought it was a good idea to put the CC down there.

I know. Bloody hard pouring brandy while driving as well
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Wtf? People who play these shitty mind games on the highway are the fucking idiots here. Yea, I get pissed if someone comes speeding up and tailgating behind me, but I'll move over if it's safe for me to do so. Playing mindgames (like slowing down purposely to piss the other driver off, or purposely tailgating) is just ridiculous.
I see you're not a parent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

The way it works is simple. Positive behavior should be rewarded. Negative behavior should be punished. If someone lets you in, you give a little wave. If you're a pedestrian and a car stops for you, you wave and smile. If someone does dumb shit, you punish it. Driving 20 below the speed limit for no reason --> tailgate them for no reason. Person driving in the left lane and not getting over --> tailgate them with your high beams on; bonus points if you're in a truck and your high beams shine directly into his mirrors. A lane is ending and some guy tries to race to the end and merge at the last second --> tailgate the guy in front of you so there's no room to cut in and keep your car on the edge of the lane the guy is in (making it require a sharper turning angle to get in front of you). If a guy properly uses his signal lights, go out of your way to let him in.




But in all seriousness, the CC from that picture looks like an aftermarket CC.
I own a Corolla and the CC really does look like that. A lot of people couldn't figure out how to use it. I would ask someone to drive so I could eat a big mac while the car is moving, and they're like "how does this damn thing work?" and it was hard to explain. Push it in? What direction is in? I mean the button, but they think I mean push the stick toward the dash. I said pull the stick to cancel it. I mean pull the stick toward you, they thought I meant pull the stick down.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I'm usually not in a rush to get anywhere, but I like to drive the speed limit. When someone in front of me going 10 below the limit, I tailgate them. They slow down. I slow down with them. Keep tailgating the whole way. Going around is bad because that teaches them that it's ok to slow down and drive 20 under the limit. If I give positive reinforcement to that type of behavior, then I'm just as bad as the slow guy in front of me.

What's cool is that people who drive really slow are the same people who stress about stuff they can't control, such as my distance behind them. It just makes sense to keep stressing the shit out of them until they eventually decide to stop driving or they kill themselves.

Do that to me and we'll see how slow you can go asshole. You'll bend before I will, I can damn sure guarantee that....

If I have to stop in the middle of the road and turn my blinkers on, you'll get it.

As Ron White said...."I've seen me do it!".

Want road rage, tailgate me like that and you'll get it.
 

fatpat268

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Jan 14, 2006
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I see you're not a parent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

The way it works is simple. Positive behavior should be rewarded. Negative behavior should be punished. If someone lets you in, you give a little wave. If you're a pedestrian and a car stops for you, you wave and smile. If someone does dumb shit, you punish it. Driving 20 below the speed limit for no reason --> tailgate them for no reason. Person driving in the left lane and not getting over --> tailgate them with your high beams on; bonus points if you're in a truck and your high beams shine directly into his mirrors. A lane is ending and some guy tries to race to the end and merge at the last second --> tailgate the guy in front of you so there's no room to cut in and keep your car on the edge of the lane the guy is in (making it require a sharper turning angle to get in front of you). If a guy properly uses his signal lights, go out of your way to let him in.

Again, wtf? No, I'm not a parent, and I don't think that should matter. The fact that you view that you have the right to punish other grown adults using negative reinforcing is honestly quite insane. People aren't going to change their ways because of something you did one day, and it's absurd that you think you can influence that. It's one thing if you encounter the exact same driver every day and you do this, but these are people you'll likely never see again in your life.

You're just being a passive aggressive asshole by doing that. I just can't sympathize with that because I don't treat driving like a game. I don't intentionally piss others off and I don't play mind games. I mind my own business and just try to get to my destination in one piece.
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Illness aside

The left lane is not for "passing only"

If I am doing the speed limit and you come up on my tail like a mad man I will block your ass and enjoy it.

I pay a shit ton of taxes as well as tolls and I can go up and down in speed however I feel.

Don't like it you are free to drive in another country.

do it in nj and you'll be herded to the right like the cattle you are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjtQKND4W8
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Again, wtf? No, I'm not a parent, and I don't think that should matter.
....

You're just being a passive aggressive asshole by doing that. I just can't sympathize with that because I don't treat driving like a game. I don't intentionally piss others off and I don't play mind games. I mind my own business and just try to get to my destination in one piece.

When you have kids, you'll understand. If you cave every time they make a scene and start screaming, then that's exactly what they'll do. If Engineer slowing down to 10mph on a Los Angeles freeway causes people to stop tailgating him, then that's what he'll do (as he has explicitly stated in this thread - it works). He'll stop doing that when it stops working, and he'll tell others to stop doing it when someone shoots at his car.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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When you have kids, you'll understand. If you cave every time they make a scene and start screaming, then that's exactly what they'll do. If Engineer slowing down to 10mph on a Los Angeles freeway causes people to stop tailgating him, then that's what he'll do (as he has explicitly stated in this thread - it works). He'll stop doing that when it stops working, and he'll tell others to stop doing it when someone shoots at his car.

Remember big boy, the shooting goes both ways including assholes who act and promote acting like you.
 

fatpat268

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Jan 14, 2006
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When you have kids, you'll understand. If you cave every time they make a scene and start screaming, then that's exactly what they'll do. If Engineer slowing down to 10mph on a Los Angeles freeway causes people to stop tailgating him, then that's what he'll do (as he has explicitly stated in this thread - it works). He'll stop doing that when it stops working, and he'll tell others to stop doing it when someone shoots at his car.

Again... me not being a parent has nothing to do with this conversation. Parenting a child with those techniques work because you're in the child's life for many years. You see them everyday.

Your technique doesn't work on other drivers long term. It just doesn't. The fact that you think that is quite pathetic.

And saying I don't understand because I'm not a parent is a copout argument and you know it.
 

chubbyfatazn

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Oct 14, 2006
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Illness aside

The left lane is not for "passing only"

If I am doing the speed limit and you come up on my tail like a mad man I will block your ass and enjoy it.

I pay a shit ton of taxes as well as tolls and I can go up and down in speed however I feel.

Don't like it you are free to drive in another country.

That's grand coming from you...

Maybe it's not where you live, but it is where I do. Way to generalize.

If you're doing that where I am, I'll find a way to go around you. You think you're practicing safe driving by going the limit, but if you're going to find ways to block my ass you're the one being more unsafe.

Irrelevant.

Also irrelevant. Way to find a shitty arguments for your equally shitty points.

fatpat268 said:
I drove a couple of times in Houston, and when the interstate wasn't backed up during rush hour, the average speed was probably around 85 across all lanes. Noticed the same in Austin as well. Speeds come down once the highway narrows down again, but still.

Yeah, I live in Texas, and any time I'm on a road trip I'm either on I35 or I45. Might not even be 85, closer to 90 or so in the rural areas. I only do 9 over though.
 

IcePickFreak

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Jul 12, 2007
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Illness aside

The left lane is not for "passing only"

If I am doing the speed limit and you come up on my tail like a mad man I will block your ass and enjoy it.

I pay a shit ton of taxes as well as tolls and I can go up and down in speed however I feel.

Don't like it you are free to drive in another country.

Cliffs: "I not only troll the internet, but the interstate as well."
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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I generally try to stick to the speed limit or between 3-5 over. It's a gas mileage thing. Sometimes, I will just run 2000 rpm straight up, which is 74mph in overdrive. Anybody who doesn't like it can go around.


Do that to me and we'll see how slow you can go asshole. You'll bend before I will, I can damn sure guarantee that....

If I have to stop in the middle of the road and turn my blinkers on, you'll get it.

As Ron White said...."I've seen me do it!".

Want road rage, tailgate me like that and you'll get it.

Remember big boy, the shooting goes both ways including assholes who act and promote acting like you.

:thumbsup:

I've turned off my cruise before when somebody tailgates me. It usually doesn't take long before they notice how much closer that big trailer hitch ball is getting to the nose of their car.
 

DCal430

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Feb 12, 2011
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There is No law here that says left lane is for passing only. Until they pass a law that says that here, then it isn't for passing only.

However the left lane here is a fast lane, and you may not impede the flow of traffic of the left lane. So as long as you are going fast enough you can stay in the left lane as long as you want.
 

xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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Oh for the love of fuck, not this again...

Left lane should be for passing and faster driving. If you feel like you want to do the speed limit (or less) in the left lane, I hope you park your car into the guardrail. You might be in the right legally, but realistically you are causing a dangerous situation for yourself and the other drivers around you. There's a difference between what the law says and what actually happens. Stop the high horse bullshit and go with the flow when you're on the road.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Your technique doesn't work on other drivers long term. It just doesn't. The fact that you think that is quite pathetic.

The fact that you think it doesn't work is why drivers in the US are such cunts to each other. There's no reward for using signal lights, so why bother? You'll be a dick either way, so I might as well cut you off without signalling. Maybe I'll give you the finger while doing it just to make you angrier. It's not like you're going to reward good behaviour, so why not? You even said you won't attempt to "punish" this type of behavior, so I really have nothing to lose by being a wise and beautiful woman to you on the road.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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The fact that you think it doesn't work is why drivers in the US are such cunts to each other. There's no reward for using signal lights, so why bother? You'll be a dick either way, so I might as well cut you off without signalling. Maybe I'll give you the finger while doing it just to make you angrier. It's not like you're going to reward good behaviour, so why not? You even said you won't attempt to "punish" this type of behavior, so I really have nothing to lose by being a wise and beautiful woman to you on the road.

Except somebody shooting you in the head.....


and the way you act, I would not care one damn bit you arrogant prick.
 

fatpat268

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Jan 14, 2006
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The fact that you think it doesn't work is why drivers in the US are such cunts to each other. There's no reward for using signal lights, so why bother? You'll be a dick either way, so I might as well cut you off without signalling. Maybe I'll give you the finger while doing it just to make you angrier. It's not like you're going to reward good behaviour, so why not? You even said you won't attempt to "punish" this type of behavior, so I really have nothing to lose by being a wise and beautiful woman to you on the road.



Just because someone drives like an ass, doesn't mean I go out of my way to "punish" them. It's also not "rewarding good behavior" if you do nothing. Maybe I'm just a calm driver, but I don't let stupid shit get to me. Someone tailgates me in the right lane, yeah I might slow down. You want to know why? It's to give the driver who is tailgating a fucking clue to pass me. Why do I want them to pass me? Not because I'm scared of them, it's because I don't want some jackass like you driving 2 inches from my bumper in case I need to step on the brakes. Your idea to further tailgate just to fuck someone is just bullying other drivers and childish. And yea I think you're a total fucking tool if you do that.

But whatever keep driving like a prick, it will bite you in the ass sooner or later if you piss off the wrong guy. More power to you dude. Keep fighting the good fight, keep punishing the shitty drivers!

 
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dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Illness aside

The left lane is not for "passing only"

If I am doing the speed limit and you come up on my tail like a mad man I will block your ass and enjoy it.

I pay a shit ton of taxes as well as tolls and I can go up and down in speed however I feel.

Don't like it you are free to drive in another country.



That's grand coming from you...

Maybe it's not where you live, but it is where I do. Way to generalize.

If you're doing that where I am, I'll find a way to go around you. You think you're practicing safe driving by going the limit, but if you're going to find ways to block my ass you're the one being more unsafe.

Irrelevant.

Also irrelevant. Way to find a shitty arguments for your equally shitty points.



Yeah, I live in Texas, and any time I'm on a road trip I'm either on I35 or I45. Might not even be 85, closer to 90 or so in the rural areas. I only do 9 over though.

Texas

No surprise, no wonder you hate America.

Why do you stay here?
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Illness aside

The left lane is not for "passing only"

If I am doing the speed limit and you come up on my tail like a mad man I will block your ass and enjoy it.

I pay a shit ton of taxes as well as tolls and I can go up and down in speed however I feel.

Don't like it you are free to drive in another country.


Slower traffic, keep right. Maybe somebody will run you off the road.

I run the speed limit with cruise control on.

People like you try to run me off the road all the time.

All the high beam flashes and driving up to my bumper will not budge my ass.
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
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I hate driving anymore. The only time I'm happy with it is on small country roads. Everything else is just miserable due to the clueless masses.

i drive a lot for work (say, 12 - 15 hours a week between customer sites)

fortunately, *most* of that driving is on roads between towns in the middle of nowhere, so I dont have to deal with a lot of that.

I went to raleigh this weekend (im from the eastern part of the state)....drivers from NC are some of the worst on the road, and they dont get better the more congested traffic gets :-/
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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I see you're not a parent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

The way it works is simple. Positive behavior should be rewarded. Negative behavior should be punished. If someone lets you in, you give a little wave. If you're a pedestrian and a car stops for you, you wave and smile. If someone does dumb shit, you punish it. Driving 20 below the speed limit for no reason --> tailgate them for no reason. Person driving in the left lane and not getting over --> tailgate them with your high beams on; bonus points if you're in a truck and your high beams shine directly into his mirrors. A lane is ending and some guy tries to race to the end and merge at the last second --> tailgate the guy in front of you so there's no room to cut in and keep your car on the edge of the lane the guy is in (making it require a sharper turning angle to get in front of you). If a guy properly uses his signal lights, go out of your way to let him in.





I own a Corolla and the CC really does look like that. A lot of people couldn't figure out how to use it. I would ask someone to drive so I could eat a big mac while the car is moving, and they're like "how does this damn thing work?" and it was hard to explain. Push it in? What direction is in? I mean the button, but they think I mean push the stick toward the dash. I said pull the stick to cancel it. I mean pull the stick toward you, they thought I meant pull the stick down.

Several brands of cars use a CC stalk that's just like that. They look slightly different, but function exactly the same way. It's common.
 

KillerCharlie

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Aug 21, 2005
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It's hard to top drivers of Washington state. Around Seattle people habitually drive below the speed limit, in addition to driving in whatever lane they feel like. A few months ago the cops actually wrote out a few hundred tickets for driving too slowly in the left lane, but it's not like they learned anything.

If traffic in the lanes to the right of you are moving faster than you, you are in the wrong lane.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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There is No law here that says left lane is for passing only. Until they pass a law that says that here, then it isn't for passing only.

However the left lane here is a fast lane, and you may not impede the flow of traffic of the left lane. So as long as you are going fast enough you can stay in the left lane as long as you want.

Where is "here?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_lane :

Common practice and most law on United States Highways is that the left lane is reserved for passing and faster moving traffic, and that traffic using the left lane must yield to traffic wishing to overtake. The United States Uniform Vehicle Code states:

Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic ...

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws" points out that:

This law refers to the "normal" speed of traffic, not the "legal" speed of traffic. The 60 MPH driver in a 55 MPH zone where everybody else is going 65 MPH must move right..."[3]

It is also illegal in many states in the U.S. to use the "far left" or passing lane on a major highway as a traveling lane (as opposed to passing), or to fail to yield to faster moving traffic that is attempting to overtake in that lane. For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states:

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane...[4]

Other examples, such as Massachusetts (General Statute 89-4B),[citation needed] New Jersey, Maine, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and others, make it illegal to fail to yield to traffic that seeks to overtake in the left lane,[citation needed] or to create any other "obstruction" in the passing lane that hinders the flow of traffic. As a result, heavy trucks are often prohibited from using the passing lane. Many areas which make it illegal to fail to yield to faster traffic, also have exceptions to those rules. Some of these exceptions include preparing to make a left turn, taking an exit located on the left side of the roadway, avoiding traffic merging onto the roadway, or overtaking and passing another vehicle.

A common problem arising from misuse of the "fast lane" is that it forces faster moving traffic that wishes to overtake on the left to change lanes, do so on the right, and then change lanes again. Further, if the vehicle misusing the passing lane is going slower than the flow of other traffic, it forces those using the middle "travel" lane (but who are moving faster) to pass on the right as well, even though they have no intention of doing so.
 
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