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destrekor

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I loved it when it stuck to Science and felt like it cheapened itself by going nutter butters in the third act.

Didn't expect anything weird when that arm reached into the ship as they were traveling? That tipped me off that things were about to get weird.

I still feel like they stuck to science. They just went with theoretical science that's sort of fringe in the physics community. If m-theory is correct, there's room for a ton of incredibly odd possibilities.

Of course it was just a fun sci-fi thing to do, so I didn't have an issue with it. In fact, I loved it.
 

Jeff7

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I loved it when it stuck to Science and felt like it cheapened itself by going nutter butters in the third act.
Or the "love transcends dimensions" bluuuuuuh.

Primate bonding behavior + huge brain = love. Geez people, get over yourselves.




Didn't expect anything weird when that arm reached into the ship as they were traveling? That tipped me off that things were about to get weird.

I still feel like they stuck to science. They just went with theoretical science that's sort of fringe in the physics community. If m-theory is correct, there's room for a ton of incredibly odd possibilities.

Of course it was just a fun sci-fi thing to do, so I didn't have an issue with it. In fact, I loved it.
It's been awhile....which "arm reaching into the ship" are you talking about?


(I only rented it online. I don't know if I'll get it on disc. McConaughey's speech volume is seriously either scarcely within the threshold of human hearing, or else it's at maximum MURPHMURPHMURPHMURPH!!!!! level. I don't know if compressing the dynamic range of the movie's audio would help a whole lot.)
 
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Sonikku

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Didn't expect anything weird when that arm reached into the ship as they were traveling? That tipped me off that things were about to get weird.

I still feel like they stuck to science. They just went with theoretical science that's sort of fringe in the physics community. If m-theory is correct, there's room for a ton of incredibly odd possibilities.

Of course it was just a fun sci-fi thing to do, so I didn't have an issue with it. In fact, I loved it.

What was it? Humans from the future giving the solution to humans in the past to avoid annihilation? How can there even be a future self of humanity to save their past selves if their past selves would have been wiped out without said intervention? It's basically a paradox.
 

Jaepheth

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Correct, and they somewhat accounted for this in the movie by positioning the endurance in a higher orbit away from the gravity well of the planet. They were in orbit around black hole, however, this isn't realistic because the endurance wouldn't be able to maintain that orbit-planet distance. If it was out of the gravity well of the planet then it would have been on a much slower orbit of the black hole vs. the orbit of the plant. After all those years it would have been much farther away from the plant than when they started, possibly on the opposite side of the black hole, or possibly back where they started depending on the orbits/time spent.

Minor stuff really.

Not minor to Kerbalnauts

Also; not possible to dock with a ship that's spinning on multiple axis.
 

destrekor

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What was it? Humans from the future giving the solution to humans in the past to avoid annihilation? How can there even be a future self of humanity to save their past selves if their past selves would have been wiped out without said intervention? It's basically a paradox.

Yes, it is a paradox. But if you research things, paradoxes are not 100% ruled out as a possibility in reality. A lot of theories about how time works and whether there are parallel timelines, universes, etc.
 

Kaido

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What was it? Humans from the future giving the solution to humans in the past to avoid annihilation? How can there even be a future self of humanity to save their past selves if their past selves would have been wiped out without said intervention? It's basically a paradox.

McConaughey needs to contemplate that paradox in his Lincoln:

 

MongGrel

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Also; not possible to dock with a ship that's spinning on multiple axis.

Would be very, very difficult at any rate.

I'd actually have to re watch the movie myself, I seem to recall it was pretty much spinning on one axis.
 

Jaepheth

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Would be very, very difficult at any rate.

I'd actually have to re watch the movie myself, I seem to recall it was pretty much spinning on one axis.

I'm almost certain it was wobbling slightly like a top (and since there's no way in hell it's perfectly balanced after an explosion it would be). Which means to stay aligned the ship would have to be so maneuverable as to not only match the spin but also fly around in tiny circles to keep up with the precession... while still spinning.
 
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Gunbuster

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I'm almost certain it was wobbling slightly like a top. Which means to stay aligned the ship would have to be so maneuverable as to not only match the spin but also fly around in tiny circles to keep up with the precession... while still spinning.

Dude that Honda sized little ship has enough thrust and reaction mass to break orbit from a planet larger than earth, it could fly in tiny circles easily! :sneaky:
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Or the "love transcends dimensions" bluuuuuuh.

Primate bonding behavior + huge brain = love. Geez people, get over yourselves.
https://youtu.be/de6uTMEiZf0

It's been awhile....which "arm reaching into the ship" are you talking about?

When they were in the wormhole and Dr. Brand touched an amorphous blob. Later on, Cooper finds her at that moment in the Tesseract. He reaches out and she reaches back. That's when we realize that he's right: "They" = 5th-dimensional "Us."
 

Imp

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The major conflicting elements of the film is the resulting paradox - advanced man created the tesseract and the original wormhole, in order to save their ancient civilization from death. Thus, they needed the civilization to live on in order to allow them to exist, so how did they create the wormhole in the first place?

But, we only think we understand time and often the underlying theories demand that paradoxical events must not be possible. I don't know if I accept that wholly: parallel universes or at least parallel timelines within the universe are theoretically possible, and allow for paradoxes if crossing between the "realities" of the distinct timelines. One theory is that all possible events do play out in the fabric of time, etched in a way in the higher dimensions, as different "decision points" change the patterns of light that creates a snowball effect.

Again, it's all theoretical. So why not enjoy it a bit by putting it into a movie?

That paradox never bugged me. I blame Doctor Who. They use the bootstrap paradox or causal loop so often that I just accepted that this stuff was beyond my comprehension -- or it's a plot device and I'll just enjoy the ride.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop

I loved it when it stuck to Science and felt like it cheapened itself by going nutter butters in the third act.

What science? All this black hole stuff, our understanding of time and gravity and the entire universe, all of it is essentially in its infancy. It might not subscribe to current theories but nothing's been definitively proven/ disproven. Kip Thorne thinks a lot of this stuff can happen, and I don't have an astrophysics doctorate or 50+ years of research to contest him... especially over a movie.
 

ElFenix

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That paradox never bugged me. I blame Doctor Who. They use the bootstrap paradox or causal loop so often that I just accepted that this stuff was beyond my comprehension -- or it's a plot device and I'll just enjoy the ride.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop

well that's because people assume that time is a strict progression of cause to affect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective point of view it is more like a big ball of wibbily wobbly, timey wimey ... stuff
 

Jaepheth

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If the Universe came into existence past, present, and future all at once, then all paradoxes came into existence with it. Think of the universe as a DVD movie; the whole movie already exists, time is an illusion caused by only experiencing small portions of the disc in sequence.
 

Imp

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If the Universe came into existence past, present, and future all at once, then all paradoxes came into existence with it. Think of the universe as a DVD movie; the whole movie already exists, time is an illusion caused by only experiencing small portions of the disc in sequence.

Never seen that analogy with the DVD before. Love it.
 
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