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KillerBee

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They didn't all pass. Only Miller had until they landed on it. It's from proximity to the black hole, not relative speed.

One hour on the surface was seven years or something for the mothership that was also in the Gargantua system.

Yea I know what you mean but it seems like they don't take into account the time of going from the mothership to the surface,
which if they did - then from Miller's perspective it would actually seem like 10 years have passed before they showed up rather than only 2 hours

:ie they wouldn't see the wreckage still floating around
unless they were looking down from outer space - outside of the time dilation area
 
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doubledeluxe

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I think I gotta see this movie again.

One thing from my point of view though. The sound was not that great. I suppose it could have been my theater but I doubt it since I was in a really nice one. They seemed to screw up with the sound in several spots but obviously not the whole movie. Some spots were crazy loud and others were slightly incoherent.
 

doubledeluxe

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The only part that really seems obviously inaccurate to me was:

When Matt Damon didn't dock properly and blew things up. There was a sizeable fireball in space during that crash, but fireballs can't happen in space because there's no oxygen. It's a common problem with lots of sci-fi explosions.

How about the view of the inner galaxy from the worm hole? Photographs see the galaxy like that but our eyes do not.

I'd also love to know if you can have a 10km tidal wave in 20cm of water.
 

zinfamous

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I'd also love to know if you can have a 10km tidal wave in 20cm of water.

heh, that's a good point. my understanding of this has something to do with the immense gravitational pull of the black hole on that planet creating massive waves...however, that water still has to come from somewhere.

so....if the b-hole is pulling all of that water, shouldn't they be standing on terra ferma for endless miles, as that wave builds and builds from all of the receding water?

whatever.
 

doubledeluxe

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It was a really entertaining scene regardless but if that gravitational pull was that great then the wave would break wouldn't it?

Anyways not his best work but I enjoyed the movie. I'd rate Contact higher if you like this genre. From a theatrical point of view I found Gravity to be way more of a fun ride than this one. You could probably wait to see this movie at home on a good system. It might be better even since if you're like me you'd love to back to back this movie to find/hear stuff you missed.
 

CZroe

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heh, that's a good point. my understanding of this has something to do with the immense gravitational pull of the black hole on that planet creating massive waves...however, that water still has to come from somewhere.

so....if the b-hole is pulling all of that water, shouldn't they be standing on terra ferma for endless miles, as that wave builds and builds from all of the receding water?

whatever.

Clearly, the waves persist and move while the ankle-deep water is just what is left.
 

zinfamous

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It was a really entertaining scene regardless but if that gravitational pull was that great then the wave would break wouldn't it?

Anyways not his best work but I enjoyed the movie. I'd rate Contact higher if you like this genre. From a theatrical point of view I found Gravity to be way more of a fun ride than this one. You could probably wait to see this movie at home on a good system. It might be better even since if you're like me you'd love to back to back this movie to find/hear stuff you missed.

fuck Contact. that was cheap rubbish (I wanted to mention that in my earlier post about cheap turns in movies where, all of a sudden: Hello, IT'S DADDY!"

Still, it was entertaining, but annoying for the final act if you ask me.

....hey, Wooderson was in that one, too. :hmm:
 

doubledeluxe

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Clearly, the waves persist and move while the ankle-deep water is just what is left.

Ever surfed? Waves are created by tidal pull. So the planet was not tidally locked with the blackhole which creates other theoretical problems. Maybe x-ray emissions are directional like illustrations I've seen but I would assume that eventually they would hit the planet.

My only thought is that maybe with the right conditions on a marble smooth planet you could have some kind of perfect inertia wave. Beats me. Not sure how the forces of gravity pulling the water down and the tidal forces creating the wave would have to balance for such perfect conditions.

And zinfamous. Contact was based on a book and I found the movie really entertaining overall. You do have to ask yourself, given the possibility of civilizations that are several types more advanced than ours, how they would communicate with us. This movie presented the same kind of conundrum. How do you communicate with a primitive species from an advanced state?
 

zinfamous

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And zinfamous. Contact was based on a book and I found the movie really entertaining overall. You do have to ask yourself, given the possibility of civilizations that are several types more advanced than ours, how they would communicate with us. This movie presented the same kind of conundrum. How do you communicate with a primitive species from an advanced state?

Oh I know.

... but it was her dad in the end.


honestly, pretty much what we have with this one, but it didn't piss me off this time. So, whatever. :\
 

CZroe

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Ever surfed? Waves are created by tidal pull. So the planet was not tidally locked with the blackhole which creates other theoretical problems. Maybe x-ray emissions are directional like illustrations I've seen but I would assume that eventually they would hit the planet.

My only thought is that maybe with the right conditions on a marble smooth planet you could have some kind of perfect inertia wave. Beats me. Not sure how the forces of gravity pulling the water down and the tidal forces creating the wave would have to balance for such perfect conditions.

And zinfamous. Contact was based on a book and I found the movie really entertaining overall. You do have to ask yourself, given the possibility of civilizations that are several types more advanced than ours, how they would communicate with us. This movie presented the same kind of conundrum. How do you communicate with a primitive species from an advanced state?

Waves can be caused by other forces. Perhaps they were tectonic or some strange phenomenon. Don't even know if it's pure water.
 
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IGemini

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Yea I know what you mean but it seems like they don't take into account the time of going from the mothership to the surface,
which if they did - then from Miller's perspective it would actually seem like 10 years have passed before they showed up rather than only 2 hours

No, it wouldn't have. Once they enter the dilation, time flows at the same rate between the Endurance crew and Miller. One second on Miller's planet is equal to about 17 hours outside the time dilation.
 

KillerBee

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No, it wouldn't have. Once they enter the dilation, time flows at the same rate between the Endurance crew and Miller. One second on Miller's planet is equal to about 17 hours outside the time dilation.
Nope time changes along the whole course from outside the gravitational time dilation until they reach the surface -
(they don't instantly warp down to the surface from outside the gravitational time dilation)
so in the end it comes out the same 10 years have passed on the planet side - once they land Miller has been long gone.
 
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KeithTalent

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Well let's just flip the question - do you feel you understand everything about the movie in it's first viewing? Because I sure as hell dont

I'll eat my words if I watch it again and think "meh. Not worth it the second time"

I don't know, I can't really think of anything I did not understand or need an explanation for. What sort of things are you thinking of?

KT
 

Ichinisan

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heh, that's a good point. my understanding of this has something to do with the immense gravitational pull of the black hole on that planet creating massive waves...however, that water still has to come from somewhere.

so....if the b-hole is pulling all of that water, shouldn't they be standing on terra ferma for endless miles, as that wave builds and builds from all of the receding water?

whatever.

I would assume it's a continuous wave that's always present somewhere on the planet and there's just enough water for that wave and a thin skin of water around the whole sphere.
 

GlacierFreeze

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I would assume it's a continuous wave that's always present somewhere on the planet and there's just enough water for that wave and a thin skin of water around the whole sphere.

That's what I was thinking. Vast majority of the water is the wave. Which was freakin' awesome. Those aren't mountains! lol
 

HumblePie

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40 years too early means he would probably be close 40 years old. 40 years too late could mean that he is 0 years old, technically.

The statement was in reference to Mathew's character in terms of how he fits with the current social order. The grandfather was stating at his current age he was born into the wrong time.
 
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