Interview with former KGB agent

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Starbuck1975

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Seattle, Portland, and Oakland are some of the most rapidly rising real estate markets, because affluent NIMBYists are exporting their techie kids there.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/...ate-market-leads-nation-in-over-asking-sales/
Rapidly rising real estate due to the Chinese oligarchy needing to park their ill-gotten money elsewhere now that Canada is clamping down, while wealth disparity continues to escalate at an unprecedented rate and homelessness soaring. With all the wealth in Seattle and Bellevue, there should not be one homeless person on the street, yet:

http://kuow.org/post/after-10-year-plan-why-does-seattle-have-more-homeless-ever
http://www.seattletimes.com/pacific...-it-has-created-are-thrilling-and-terrifying/
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-g...incomes-soar-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor/

That's all ok though, so long as the value of your house continues to rise and you have the ability to order cheap crap through an monopolistically exploited supply chain by speaking to a device sitting in your living room, amirite?
 

agent00f

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Rapidly rising real estate due to the Chinese oligarchy needing to park their ill-gotten money elsewhere now that Canada is clamping down, while wealth disparity continues to escalate at an unprecedented rate and homelessness soaring. With all the wealth in Seattle and Bellevue, there should not be one homeless person on the street, yet:

http://kuow.org/post/after-10-year-plan-why-does-seattle-have-more-homeless-ever
http://www.seattletimes.com/pacific...-it-has-created-are-thrilling-and-terrifying/
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-g...incomes-soar-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor/

That's all ok though, so long as the value of your house continues to soar and you have the ability to order cheap crap through an monopolistically exploited supply chain by speaking to a device sitting in your living room, amirite?

It's pretty hilarious how desperate you are to paint a vibrant tech hub as somehow worse than trump country, which incidentally is only part of the first world due to tax redistribution from the former.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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It's pretty hilarious how desperate you are to paint a vibrant tech hub as somehow worse than trump country.
Deflection. I never claimed Seattle is worse than Trump country, but the vibrant tech hubs share some of the blame for why we even have Trump country, and are not the utopia the people who live there so desperately want to believe. So you deny there is a growing income disparity, drug and homeless problem in some of America's most rapidly growing and prosperous cities? Of course you do, because your enlightened mind is incapable of grasping it.
 

agent00f

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Deflection. I never claimed Seattle is worse than Trump country, but the vibrant tech hubs share some of the blame for why we even have Trump country, and are not the utopia the people who live there so desperately want to believe. So you deny there is a growing income disparity, drug and homeless problem in some of America's most rapidly growing and prosperous cities? Of course you do, because your enlightened mind is incapable of grasping it.

First, Trump country is only part of the first world due to tax redistribution from places like Seattle, so show some respect for those you're economically reliant upon instead of acting like some insolent teen.

Second, "fiscal" degenerates chomping at the bit to pull healthcare from millions for a minimal tax break are also in no position to pretend they give any shit about some homeless who fall through the cracks.

Keep in mind your role here is merely to parrot the latest conservative media talking points sans the trailer park mannerisms of your peers, not to be taken seriously by anyone with much of a brain.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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First, Trump country is only part of the first world due to tax redistribution from places like Seattle, so show some respect for those you're economically reliant upon instead of acting like some insolent teen.

Second, "fiscal" degenerates chomping at the bit to pull healthcare from millions for a minimal tax break are also in no position to pretend they give any shit about some homeless who fall through the cracks.

Keep in mind your role here is merely to parrot the latest conservative media talking points sans the trailer park mannerisms of your peers, not to be taken seriously by anyone with much of a brain.
First, I live in a blue state, but have spent enough time in red states to recognize and understand the plight that the former industrial and raw materials belt now faces. I also recognize that so long as we have a democracy, those people vote, so dismissing and insulting them is not the way forward.

Second, I fully support single payer and resent the Republican party for what it has become.

Keep in mind that your only role here is to parrot the latest liberal derailments and deflections, and you have lost the ability to find a common ground or engage in any reasonable dialogue because you look down on anyone that does not stand on your perceived intellectual higher ground. Fortunately for our society, there are fewer people like you and more like me.
 

agent00f

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First, I live in a blue state, but have spent enough time in red states to recognize and understand the plight that the former industrial and raw materials belt now faces. I also recognize that so long as we have a democracy, those people vote, so dismissing and insulting them is not the way forward.
No, much like your party you recognize the value of their votes in an exchange for providing a race resentment platform. Of course it's the nature of degenerate politics to avoid that level of factual transparency.

Second, I fully support single payer and resent the Republican party for what it has become.

Let's not pretend you didn't voluntarily choose to be republican, and that will continue even if trumpsters start gassing lower status minorities san financial incentive otherwise.

Keep in mind that your only role here is to parrot the latest liberal derailments and deflections, and you have lost the ability to find a common ground or engage in any reasonable dialogue because you look down on anyone that does not stand on your perceived intellectual higher ground. Fortunately for our society, there are fewer people like you and more like me.

You know just as well as anyone else that only one of us is obliged to toe the party line, but again let's not pretend conservatives have the character or integrity to be minimally honest about anything.

Btw, too many people like you than me is why society advanced so minimally until after the enlightenment.
 

Starbuck1975

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No, much like your party you recognize the value of their votes in an exchange for providing a race resentment platform. Of course it's the nature of degenerate politics to avoid that level of factual transparency.



Let's not pretend you didn't voluntarily choose to be republican, and that will continue even if trumpsters start gassing lower status minorities san financial incentive otherwise.



You know just as well as anyone else that only one of us is obliged to toe the party line, but again let's not pretend conservatives have the character or integrity to be minimally honest about anything.

Btw, too many people like you than me is why society advanced so minimally until after the enlightenment.
What is becoming increasingly clear to me is that the only reason you post so much here is because this is the only forum where ideas like yours receive any sort of validation. What you choose to believe about me is irrelevant.
 

agent00f

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What is becoming increasingly clear to me is that the only reason you post so much here is because this is the only forum where ideas like yours receive any sort of validation. What you choose to believe about me is irrelevant.

No, there are people who appreciate factual accuracy outside this forum, too. It's obvious enough that if the hard reality I point to were easy to dispute, people would do it more often instead of feigning indignation instead. The previous sentence is a pretty good example of said reality.
 

Starbuck1975

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No, there are people who appreciate factual accuracy outside this forum, too. It's obvious enough that if the hard reality I point to were easy to dispute, people would do it more often instead of feigning indignation instead.
The ideas you claim as hard realities and truths are but shields to hide your intellectual impotence. I've noticed of late you've started to turn on your own kind. I wonder, will you have the strength and courage to finish your little drama once the last audience member leaves prior to your final act?
 

agent00f

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The ideas you claim as hard realities and truths are but shields to hide your intellectual impotence.

Nothing but worthless rhetoric in lieu of any coherent argument. A most apt verification of the aforementioned reality.

I've noticed of late you've started to turn on your own kind. I wonder, will you have the strength and courage to finish your little drama once the last audience member leaves prior to your final act?

Great job highlighting your own lie that I bear any resemblance to all your shill buddies. It's also a simple fact that unlike with degenerates, introduction of hard realities does have some purchase even with the most naive liberals. That's literally why they're not categorized with people looking to conserve what was no matter what.
 

Starbuck1975

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Nothing but worthless rhetoric in lieu of any coherent argument. A most apt verification of the aforementioned reality.



Great job highlighting your own lie that I bear any resemblance to all your shill buddies. It's also a simple fact that unlike with degenerates, introduction of hard realities does have some purchase even with the most naive liberals. That's literally why they're not categorized with people looking to conserve what was no matter what.
What is the coherence of your arguments? All you offer is vague fortune cookie references to enlightment, and when all else fails, you resort to accusations of racism and degeneracy. You are an artist limited to primary colors and incapable of functioning outside of your intellectual safe space. I wish I shared @Moonbeam's flair for language. I do so enjoy watching him repeatedly own your pompous nonsense and deflect your impotence.
 
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agent00f

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What is the coherence of your arguments? All you offer is vague fortune cookie references to enlightment, and when all else fails, you resort to accusations of racism and degeneracy. You are an artist limited to primary colors and incapable of functioning outside of your intellectual safe space. I wish I shared Moonbeam's flair for language. I do so enjoy watching him repeatedly own your pompous nonsense and deflect your impotence.

Would you say your political alliance with the chucky types differ much from the one you just admitted to with moonbeam?

Not hard to see why people with trump family level talent at self-incrimination identify with the conservative party.

I do love a succinct coherent argument.
 

Starbuck1975

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Would you say your political alliance with the chucky types differ much from the one you just admitted to with moonbeam?

Not hard to see why people with trump family level talent at self-incrimination identify with the conservative party.

I do love a succinct coherent argument.
I don't know who chucky is. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands and a talent for consolidating the posts of others. Be a good chap and summarize some of his posts for me.

I can't recall Moonbeam ever agreeing with me on much of anything. I just enjoy watching him deflect your wet noodle intellectualism.

Keep up the great work professor. The lectures are fun as always.
 

agent00f

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I don't know who chucky is. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands and a talent for consolidating the posts of others. Be a good chap and summarize some of his posts for me.

Keep up the great work professor. The lectures are fun as always.

No, it's you who deserve to be commended for diligently following in the footsteps of dear leader again by pretending to have no idea who the resident race realist is. That and contradicting yourself in consecutive sentences much like your idol:

I can't recall Moonbeam ever agreeing with me on much of anything. I just enjoy watching him deflect your wet noodle intellectualism.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Nothing but worthless rhetoric in lieu of any coherent argument. A most apt verification of the aforementioned reality.

Would you say your political alliance with the chucky types differ much from the one you just admitted to with moonbeam?

Not hard to see why people with trump family level talent at self-incrimination identify with the conservative party.

No, it's you who deserve to be commended for diligently following in the footsteps of dear leader again by pretending to have no idea who the resident race realist is. That and contradicting yourself in consecutive sentences much like your idol:

You can add as much garlic to the sauce as you like, it does not mask the fact that your underlying logic is flaccid overcooked noodles and the incoherent ramblings of a paranoid, diseased mind. I suspect you live in a world where you are accustomed to talking down to rather than engaging with people.
 

agent00f

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You can add as much garlic to the sauce as you like, it does not mask the fact that your underlying logic is flaccid overcooked noodles and the incoherent ramblings of a paranoid, diseased mind. I suspect you live in a world where you are accustomed to talking down to rather than engaging with people.

You sure do agree a lot with all the resident racists, minority genocide fans, and so on. I'm sure you have no idea who any of them are, yet somehow confident they aren't so long as they vote for your party.
 
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Starbuck1975

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You sure do agree a lot with all the resident racists, minority genocide fans, and so on. I'm sure you have no idea who any of them are, yet somehow confident they aren't so long as they vote for your party.
Find one instance where I validated through a Like or otherwise advocated for anyone expressing racist or minority genocidal thoughts.
 

senseamp

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Rapidly rising real estate due to the Chinese oligarchy needing to park their ill-gotten money elsewhere now that Canada is clamping down, while wealth disparity continues to escalate at an unprecedented rate and homelessness soaring. With all the wealth in Seattle and Bellevue, there should not be one homeless person on the street, yet:

http://kuow.org/post/after-10-year-plan-why-does-seattle-have-more-homeless-ever
http://www.seattletimes.com/pacific...-it-has-created-are-thrilling-and-terrifying/
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-g...incomes-soar-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor/

That's all ok though, so long as the value of your house continues to rise and you have the ability to order cheap crap through an monopolistically exploited supply chain by speaking to a device sitting in your living room, amirite?
Cities like Seattle are now for high value add individuals.
If you can't keep up, move to a cheaper area.
If you choose to stay, then it is what it is. I am guessing homeless people choose to stay in Seattle because Seattle actually does something for them, unlike other areas.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Cities like Seattle are now for high value add individuals.
If you can't keep up, move to a cheaper area.
If you choose to stay, then it is what it is. I am guessing homeless people choose to stay in Seattle because Seattle actually does something for them, unlike other areas.
Wouldn't know, I live in a higher value area, have been doing business in Seattle for over a decade, and lament that the birthplace of Queensryche, Alice In Chains and Soundgarden is losing its cool vibe in favor of a gentrified global capitalist core surrounded by an opioid afflicted underclass.
 

senseamp

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Wouldn't know, I live in a higher value area, have been doing business in Seattle for over a decade, and lament that the birthplace of Queensryche, Alice In Chains and Soundgarden is losing its cool vibe in favor of a gentrified global capitalist core surrounded by an opioid afflicted underclass.
They are obviously less afflicted in Seattle than elsewhere if they choose to stay.
 

Starbuck1975

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They are obviously less afflicted in Seattle than elsewhere if they choose to stay.
Have you seen the tent cities near Angels Stadium in SoCal. I would content that the homeless forming communes, along with an increase in homelessness, is a bug and not a feature of a functional society.
 

senseamp

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Buy them a one way ticket to your town if you think you can take better care of their problems.
 

fskimospy

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Wouldn't know, I live in a higher value area, have been doing business in Seattle for over a decade, and lament that the birthplace of Queensryche, Alice In Chains and Soundgarden is losing its cool vibe in favor of a gentrified global capitalist core surrounded by an opioid afflicted underclass.

While I agree that it's horrible to see attractive cities like Seattle, the Bay Area, and NYC increasingly home to the very affluent surrounded by the terribly poor I'm not sure how to fix that other than by strongly addressing income inequality, which is generally not a conservative idea?
 
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