Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: beyoku
Bwaha ha ha.
I was there in 2006 2007 and 2008.
I speak with inlaws like everyweek. I Also own land in the horn of Africa and been paying VERY close attention to what is going on thinking maybe i can retire there in a little while. Whatever indications of some MAJOR terrorist activity in the horn of Africa must have been gotten from some classified source that only you few know about.
Seriously speaking there are SO MANY Somalis in Ethiopia it isnt a joke. Somalians could bomb Ethiopians everyday in the city if they wanted to. Even the country is like 50% Muslim! LOL and Ethiopia is the 3 holiest city in Islam. The hole idea is stupid. Stop using the word "Terrorist" If Somalia had MAJOR terrorist Activity there would be agitating "Christian" Ethiopia daily.
#1 I think you're drunk.
And for some reason you seem to think I'm saying thousands of international terrorists flow from Somalia daily. Calm down.
United States has long been engaged in a shadowy struggle with the forces of militant Islam in the ruined, chaotic state of Somalia. The environment of lawlessness and clan warfare is ideal for hiding and creating a base of operations. See al Ittihad.
Ethiopia has been agitated my friend. Ethiopia has been and continues to operate its own clandestine operations in the country. Their success in subduing terrorist activity by eliminating hard targets such as bases and compounds is well noted and the removal of suspected terrorists in snatch and grab operations is not exactly a secret.
This is the same Ethiopia that is worried about the Ogoden and Somali tribes within its border? The same Ethiopia that's worried and harrassed by Eritrea? The same Ethiopia that is scared shitless of teachers and journalists? The same Ethiopia whose people are starving because of bad weather?
I think Ethiopia has enough other problems than for it to worry about a band of warlords who can't even control their own country than performing "snatch and grab operations". The war in 2006 was mainly egged on by America, who provided invaluable logistics and intelligence. If we hadn't I doubt they would've gone in.
You live in a fantasy world.
I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. Yes, Ethiopia conducted operations within Somalia, yes they had Western "help." YES, the US is involved, YES the US sees Somalia as a potential threat and/or hideout from and of Islamic militants. Thank you for agreeing with me, welcome to my fantasy world.
You're the one pulling the pop-political value judgments and getting all riled up. I'm just telling you what
is.
Learn to read. Ethiopia and Somalia hate each other, but over land, not terrorists. Ethiopia is over 50% Muslim and was one of the places that gave the relatives of the Prohpet Muhammed sanctuary in the Holy city of Axum when they were exiled from Mecca. For that reason Muslims around the world have a special reverence for Ethiopia. It is doubtful that Islamic terrorists are plotting against Ethiopia, fool.
EDIT: You guys don't even know the region yet you keep running your mouths as if you do.
I didn't say anything about WHY Ethiopia has conducted operations against Somalia I just said they did... with US "cooperation" because the US *surprise!* is very interested in Somalia from an Islamic militant standpoint. The fact is al Ittihad was associated with the Ogaden National Liberation Front, a group fighting against the Ethiopian government, so the Ethiopian Army launched operations against them. This, along with the Somali clan leaders driving them out of their respective areas, pretty much diffused the radical organization.
Now, al Ittihad are dispersed throughout the country, melting into Somalia?s social framework in civic professions, supposedly preparing the country for Islamic revolution someday.
I do not understand why you deny the simple facts of history. If your point is that the US should have no involvement in that area of Africa or the world, then make a decent argument instead of rambling on, jumping incoherently from topic to topic.
All I'm saying is
we are there and basically outlined the public US rationale for being there. Once again: prevent extremist groups from taking root in Somali society and to counter/destroy key terrorist figures who take refuge in this area.
You are a person who knows a little bit but then wildly talks over their own head. I do not know a lot, but what I have stated are not my opinions. I'm just making a very clear, simple statement about US involvement that can be easily backed up by objective reference.