iOS 10

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ControlD

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I really, really wish we could go back to the old way of unlocking with TouchID. I hate this new method. Maybe it works better with a phone, but it sucks on my Air 2.
 

Eug

Lifer
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iOS 10 reactivates Apple Music in the GUI. Luckily you can still shut it off.

However, why the frack is Music in iOS 10 still inferior to Music in iOS 7? Like really, WTF Apple?

I just loaded up Music on my iPhone 4 and it's just so much nicer on that phone than it is on my iOS 10 iPhone 7 Plus. Music is iOS 10 is better than Music in iOS 9, but it still feels like a horrible imitation made by a third rate company trying to differentiate itself from Apple. Except it is made by Apple.
 

slashbinslashbash

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iOS 10 is a mixed bag for me. I too don't like the new way of unlocking, but maybe I'll get used to it.

I *don't* like the new fonts, especially on the lock screen. They went too bold/weighty. I liked the thinner stuff better. Maybe it was a bit too thin before, but this is much too thick now, and I think somewhere in the middle might possibly be most agreeable to me, but do I have to wait until iOS 11? I also liked the older transparancy usage more.... app folders on iOS 10 just look too "heavy" now. (Note, I had "reduce transparency" turned on on iOS 9, but with "reduce transparency" off in iOS 10, everything is still less transparent than it was with it turned on in 9.) So many things, looks-wise, on iOS 10 seem dumbed down or made more kindergarten-y. I liked the extreme minimalism of iOS 9. The new News icon looks bad. I haven't noticed any changes to the other icons. The overshooting on the design side seems un-Steve-Jobs-y to me. The pendulum swings too much one way, then the other. I feel like Steve would have stuck to his aesthetic preferences more and kept a lot of the things from the old design. Also, I miss swiping upward to get to the camera app.

On the other hand, the increased speed is impressive and appreciated on my 6S. Safari in particular is blazing fast again. I have no problems with the technical side of iOS 10. But then I have not yet breached the Music app and other things. I just upgraded yesterday, so we'll see how things fall out.
 

Eug

Lifer
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10.1 public beta 2 is now out, and it's mostly faster than 10.0.2.

 

Sgraffite

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I ordered a 32GB iPhone 7 Plus and was Googling around to see how much space iOS 10 takes. It seems 16GB is a popular answer to that question, does that jive with your experiences?
 

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Lifer
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Lifer
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Yeah, 16 GB works for some people, but in 2016 is rather restricting for a lot of people.

In contrast, 32 GB is enough for lots of people. I have 128 GB with currently 99 GB free. So for me, 32 GB would have been tight, but 64 GB would be OK. And 128 GB for only $100 more than 32 GB? Even better. Even if the 64 GB option existed, I'd take 128 GB for +$100 over 64 GB for +$50.
 

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Lifer
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Can anyone confirm this WiFi bug?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7675254?start=0&tstart=0

It is freakin' annoying!
It would be interesting to see if that happens with Airport Extreme. In the old days I used to hide my SSID and for non-Apple routers, I'd sometimes run into this issue (eg. iPhone 4 IIRC). Finally, I just stopped hiding the SSID, and I also eventually bought an Apple router. All the occasional compatibility issues disappeared once I did that, not surprisingly.
 

Tyranicus

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For what it's worth, there isn't really a legitimate reason to hide your SSID. It doesn't provide any additional security. People who try to crack wifi networks can see it anyway.
 

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For what it's worth, there isn't really a legitimate reason to hide your SSID. It doesn't provide any additional security. People who try to crack wifi networks can see it anyway.
True, but it was useful in that guests wouldn't try to log onto that one. Just the visible one. But that's a pretty minor issue.
 

Oyeve

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Been playing with my iphone 7 and beta ios 10. And I ask myself, why still to this day can we not kill all apps at once???? Other than that I am getting a kick out of my ip7. Was gonna get the 7+ but already use a Note 7 as my main device and relegate iphones strictly for work related use.
 

TheStu

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Been playing with my iphone 7 and beta ios 10. And I ask myself, why still to this day can we not kill all apps at once???? Other than that I am getting a kick out of my ip7. Was gonna get the 7+ but already use a Note 7 as my main device and relegate iphones strictly for work related use.
Why would you want to kill all apps at once? I can understand killing one that's being a bad actor, but all of them? Why bother? It can't possibly save significant, testable battery life. And it can't be a memory thing, the OS will let the foreground app steal RAM from wherever it needs to. That's why sometimes apps are where you left them, and sometimes they need to refresh (which uses more cycles and power than letting them sit in memory). Killing all almost certainly causes an INCREASE in general power consumption.
 

Aikouka

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Killing all almost certainly causes an INCREASE in general power consumption.

Yeah, I recall reading an article a year or two ago (it was probably linked from this forum) where they discussed why killing tasks on iOS is most likely going to do the opposite of what you'd expect (make the phone act better). The only time that I ever close an app is if it seems to be acting up, and I just want the app to refresh itself.
 

TheStu

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Yeah, I recall reading an article a year or two ago (it was probably linked from this forum) where they discussed why killing tasks on iOS is most likely going to do the opposite of what you'd expect (make the phone act better). The only time that I ever close an app is if it seems to be acting up, and I just want the app to refresh itself.
Facebook. I kill Facebook like it's my job, because they are often NOT a good actor. They had an issue with muted audio still somehow using a background process, which led to increased battery drain.
 

Ichinisan

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Other annoying things about iOS which will never get fixed.

The automatic capitalization of input into user name/password fields. Just stay the F out of my password entry operations.
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Um:
Settings > General > Keyboard > Auto-Capitalization [Off/On]

If the username text box in a web page has the type property set to email, iOS is smart enough to know it shouldn't auto-capitalize.

Usernames typically don't care about capitalization anyway.
 

Ichinisan

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Ichinisan

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I'm not liking the new iPhone 7 with iOS10. I don't know if it's because the 7 is a lot faster than my 6 I had, but if I try to turn on the phone with the home button and I use a touch ID finger, it just logs in right away. Bugs the crap out of me because I set my phone on my desk and sometimes just want to check for any alerts, but it will log me into the phone.

As far as I know, the only 2 ways to get the screen to turn on (by default) are to hit either the home button or power button OR move the phone towards your face. I prefer the home button but now it pretty much just logs me in. Any way around this? I try to use a non touch ID finger but I don't always remember to do that.
The super-fast TouchID thing started with iPhone 6s last year.
 

Ichinisan

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Yeah I don't really want to pick up my phone just to see alerts. For now I'll just have to use the right finger!

What is springboard?
Use the wrong finger enough times and your phone will require you to type the PIN.
 

Ichinisan

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So I was wrong when I said that iOS does not capitalize the first in the password field. It does it all day when putting in a wifi password. The field is marked "password" when will they stop doing stupid things like that?

By wifi password I mean at a hotel or hotspot login.
That would be the fault of whoever wrote the HTML on that page. The textbox type property should be "password" and it should show dots as you type.

If they didn't set the type to "password" or mask the input characters, they probably didn't make it case-sensitive either.
 

Eug

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Even with the 10.1 beta 2 I still get this weird bug. Whenever I send myself an iMessage with the animations, I get it three times. This doesn't happen if I send it to a friend, or if he sends one to me, only if I send it to myself.
 

Ichinisan

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10.1 beta here.

I keep having a problem with WiFi calling. The status bar keeps saying "no service" instead of "AT&T WiFi." At one point, I found the feature disabled. I assumed it had happened when I upgraded to 10.1 beta from 10.0.1 -- so I enabled it and it seemed to work for maybe 1 day. Then it started doing the same thing, while the setting still appeared to be enabled. Rebooting my device and toggling the setting multiple times didn't help. I enabled the NumberSync feature so my other iDevices can use my phone number and make/receive calls even when my phone is *not* nearby. Still didn't change. Just now, I found that WiFi calling was finally disabled again and I turned it on. It's finally showing "AT&T WiFi" in the status bar like it should (where it has been saying "No Service").
 

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Lifer
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Did WiFi calling work for you in iOS 9? I turned it off. The status display errors and weird disabling didn't happen, but the service itself was just unreliable on my carrier. It actually made things worse than cell alone.
 
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