iOS 7 First Impressions

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eelw

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Yup, others on MacRumors also experiencing getting seasick from the motion effects. Like how some were getting dizzy from talking on the phone in the car from the noise cancelling last year after iPhone 5 launch.

But some said that reduce motion and turning on Bold Text helped reduce the nausea effect.
 

slashbinslashbash

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I like it, I like it a lot. The colors, the transparency, the smoothness.... it really feels quite fast, although I never had any complaints before about iOS 6 on my iPhone 5.

 

Eug

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Those of you who got the free iWork, iMovie, and iPhoto, can you install them on your other older existing iDevices via iTunes?

The reason I ask is because iWork supports everything on iOS 5.1 and up, and iMovie + iPhoto support both my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 and up on iOS 6.0. That's $40 worth of iApps that'd be good to get on my other iDevices.
 

Leyawiin

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I'm getting a new iPad 2 included with my Dish Network satellite TV package I signed up for yesterday. Since I'll no frame of reference, should I stick with the iOS 6 it will probably come with, or upgrade to iOS 7 immediately?
 

Eug

Lifer
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Upgrade to iOS 7 immediately.

You get free software with iOS 7, for any iDevice purchased on or after Sept. 1. See my previous post.
 

Leyawiin

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Thanks Eug. I thought that might be best since I don't know anything about either OS. If I get used to iOS 6 I'll have the chance to compare the two (and nitpick over the differences).
 

Eug

Lifer
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Well, I guess it might be interesting to just play with iOS 6 for a couple of days and then upgrade. Up to you.

The good news for iOS 7 is that despite the fact the iPad 2 is a 2.5 year-old product, iOS 7 runs extremely well on it. I'm very pleased with iOS 7 on our iPad 2.

The colour and artistic themes are completely different in iOS 7 though.
iOS 6 has a black background and is about 3D and skeumorphism.
iOS 7 has a white/light background is about flatness and almost completely eliminates skeumorphism.

iOS 7 also adds a lot of new features that were sorely missing from iOS 6. That, the fact that it runs beautifully on the iPad 2, and the free software (iWork, iMovie, iPhoto) makes the upgrade to iOS 7 a no-brainer IMO.
 
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Koing

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing
 
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Subyman

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Wow, seasickness. That sounds like something they will need to address quickly.
 

saratoga172

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing

No jb for it yet but if you get it to 6 you can do the OTA update to 7 and restore an iCloud backup. Not sure on iTunes OS X requirements so you may be stuck there.
 

Oyeve

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing

Ah, apples planned obsolete has been good to them.
 

bearxor

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing

Hold on... People still back up to their computers?
 

Tyranicus

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing

I agree that the situation sucks, but Snow Leopard is only $20, and there are plenty of things besides iTunes which no longer support Leopard.
 

Eug

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Yeah, much better to back up to the computer first. However, also note that such backups don't backup the photos, so make sure you download your photos too before the update to iOS 7.

BTW, IMO the only justifiable reason for an end user to still be on 10.5.8 is if you're running a PowerPC machine.
 

Koing

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No jb for it yet but if you get it to 6 you can do the OTA update to 7 and restore an iCloud backup. Not sure on iTunes OS X requirements so you may be stuck there.

No iCloud backup

I agree that the situation sucks, but Snow Leopard is only $20, and there are plenty of things besides iTunes which no longer support Leopard.

It was £19 delivered so it'll be here in a few days. HOPEFULLY the install will go without any problems but at least I have everything backed up to my qnap NAS.

I've just delayed upgrading as Leopard has done what I needed and I've been waiting on the haswell rMBP.

Koing
 

Koing

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Yeah, much better to back up to the computer first. However, also note that such backups don't backup the photos, so make sure you download your photos too before the update to iOS 7.

BTW, IMO the only justifiable reason for an end user to still be on 10.5.8 is if you're running a PowerPC machine.

Yeah I'll back up my photos on the phone before wipe it out.

You don't miss what you don't have. 10.5.8 has been solid for the past 6yrs for me. Haven't felt a need to upgrade.

Koing
 

Rottie

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kinda disappointed with iOS 7, they removed some great features from iOS 6 like I really want NC with FaceBook/Twitter integration. I hate to open FB or Twitter apps to leave short message like that!
 

Kaido

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Installed it on my 4S today. Initial impressions:

The Bad:

1. Hate the whiteness. Reminds me of Office 2013. Terrible. Too bright. I need a dark gray option for stuff like Safari & Photos. The white keyboard in texting is terrible to look at, I liked the old gray one so much more. Hate the Mail app visual design too, it's now worse to look at than the Gmail app. 100% white with an animation style I don't like, soft-snap or something.
2. I don't like the slightly slower, Microsoft-style animation. Reminds me of Windows 8, although at least Windows 8 is snappy. Everything just feels a bit laggy, but not in a hardware laggy kind of way, just in a "we designed it like this" sort of way.
3. Again, need more options with color schemes. No solid-color background choices by default. The lock screen is white - I put up a family picture and I can't read the time. Maybe they could offer a black-text option, or a white-text/black-border option. A lot of the graphics & text simply lack good contrast and they are hard to read.
4. Don't like the flat icons or rainbow color scheme. I don't know what they were smoking. I mean, I guess it could look good in theory, but it only feels like it's 90% there. With the default blue clouds wallpaper, the Mail icon blends right. The Settings gear icon looks terrible. The App Store icon's circle is a little too big for the icon square. Little stuff like that just doesn't look quite right.
5. It added a Facetime icon to my homepage. It shoved the last icon on my homepage off to the 2nd page. It pushed everything on my second page over to the third page. So now I have an almost blank second page, with all of my 2nd-page go-to tools on the third page. To put this in perspective, I have 11 pages of apps organized exactly how I want them. I now have to go through and move nearly 50 application icons by hand.
6. Still no "close all" button on the kill-apps screen.
7. Too much stuff feels like Droid in this. For starters, the front of the time on the lock screen. And then the swipe-anyway-and-something-happens. I mean, I'm used to it now (slide up for control center, swipe down for search, etc.), but little bits & pieces have that cluttered/poor graphic design feeling of Android. Like the bars next to the Verizon 3G at the top are now little circles, a design feature that matches absolutely nothing else in the interface. Easier to use? Sure. Weird to look at, especially compared how doesn't fit in with the rest of the design? Yup. I've been using an iPhone since 2007. I'm used to things a certain way, so if you're going to change things, do a 100% job, not a nearly-100% job, you know? Yes, it's finicky to point it out, but Apple is usually great about attention-to-detail.
8. Still no Swype or Swiftkey or other multi-touch solution to make typing easier or faster.

The Meh:
1. The new app-kill system is more user-friendly, but they also combined it with app switching, so that's interesting. I actually find this a little harder to use when switching to another running app, because I knew which icon I wanted to open before, and now I have to spend more time looking at the preview trying to figure out which one it was. Not a big deal since the icon is still underneath, but it's no longer in a black strip anymore. Not a biggie, just different.
2. Siri is kinda cooler. Still more of a novelty than anything for me tho.
3. New Camera tools, meh. The filters are not good quality and are fairly boring. Sticking with Camera+ myself. I also keep accidentally swapping formats in the Camera app when I don't want to, like to square.
4. No AirDrop on the 4S. To be expected since they want to deprecate features and make you want to upgrade, but still, lame.
5. Maps is really coming along nicely - surprisingly. I still use my dedicated Garmin in the car the majority of the time, but it's another nice option along with the Garmin app & the Google Maps app.

The Good:

1. Pretty much all of the bad stuff is made up for the new slide-from-bottom control center. I REALLY appreciate this, especially since I turn my Bluetooth on/off every time I hop in the car to save battery. The flashlight feature is also most excellent. Again, not crazy about the fuzzy rainbow garbage going on behind the interface, but whatever, it's super functional and is a BIG help in how I use my iPhone.
2. Battery life seems to have improved for me, doesn't die nearly as fast now. That's only first-day impressions, so who knows, placebo effect maybe. But it's nearly midnight and I'm only at 40% after using it intermittently all day.
3. The slide-down-from-top to open Search iPhone from any icon window is handy. I keep accidentally opening it and will have to un-learn this 6-year habit.
4. Slide-to-unlock from anywhere is great. Much more natural.
5. I like that the notification center now has tabs and shows today's calendar, but you can also click on All (or Missed). Would still prefer an Intelliscreen type of setup, but this is a start.

Bottom line: hate the white, hate the lack of contrast; love the quick-access control center, love the slide-from-anywhere-to-unlock improvement. It's only been a day and I'm mostly used to it. There are some things that offend the designer in me, but oh well, it's a phone.
 

jiffylube1024

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Really f0cking annoying

Backed up iphone4. Upgraded to iOS7 on the phone itself and it won't sync as my iTunes is out of date. I can't update my iTunes as I'm on OSX 10.5.8

Resetting my iphone4 and restoring from my backup on it. I'm waiting on the new haswell rMBP. Hmmmm that didn't go to plan. The restore just leaves the phone as a new iOS7 device and I still can't access due to my old iTunes and old OSX RUBBISH.

Going to search how to jail break iOS7? Or at least get back to iOS6...

Looks like I'm going to buy Snow Leopard to get my iphone to sync with my macbook.

Koing

Considering OS X 10.6 came out in the middle of 2009, running OS 10.5.8 isn't the best excuse for being pissed that you can't update. Is this the first issue with updating programs you've encountered with 10.5? I don't think it can run the latest Chrome or Firefox either, among many other things (IIRC). I even keep a couple of purchased copies of 10.6 (got them for like $25 each on sale ages ago) around because of all the compatibility issues with the old version of OS X.

You don't know anyone with a newer Mac who can lend you their copy (before Apple went to digital-only distribution)?
 
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