that means nothing. i could build two cars on the same chassis and they would be so different.
"The iPhone (and iPod Touch) run an operating system known as iPhone OS. It is based on a variant of the same Darwin operating system core that is found in Mac OS X."
Meaning= NOT THE SAME.
iPad would've been a decent product if they'd put OSX on it instead of iPhone OS. As it is now, it's the most useless product ever put out by Apple. You can't use it as a basic computer, any netbook is much better for that. And if you just want something to carry around for web browsing, an iPhone or iTouch does the same thing and fits in your pocket. It'll be hard to surpass as the flop product of 2010...
It's a very good OS...on a phone/ipod.
When you step up to netbook-sized hardware, people expect a full OS because that's what they've been getting since 2008.
A basic computer would be used for what? Surfing the web, checking email, and maybe listening to music & watching videos. Seems like it does everything a basic computer does. The iPad does more than my mom would need it to, I'm sure in her eyes the iPad is more of a device than she could ever use. The iPad isn't for people who need to do advanced shit, but for general shit it has all the basics covered.
I would consider my Mom or my sister to represent the average computer user, and they have no idea what a full OS is. If they can pick up a device and use it to access the internet and check their email in their minds it's a computer. At best they will know the iPad's not Windows, but only because it looks different UI wise. Besides that they wouldn't know shit and just use the iPad like it was a regular computer. The market for this thing is huge. Hardcore uses will stay away, but the target audience for this would be my sister, somebody with money to spent and very limited tech knowledge.
I'm buying an iPad to use as a PDF reader. Kindle/Nook ftl.
yes the PDF reader market is just huge.
what's funny is that people keep touting this as a fantastic internet machine as its primary selling point, for just regualr average users.
well regular average users don't concern themselves with what flash is, they just want to watch hulu and play flash games, and now they will be seeing errors instead, and they wont understand why after having been duped by the apple hype machine. it's amazing that the apple fanboyism can overlook this. love it or hate it, flash is prevalent and intertwined with essential web content - to say this ecosystem that the ipad runs in is easy for them is a lie.
Yeah, it will be so nice to have a portable PDF reader that turns on instantly and doesn't need a flip-out keyboard...I had a netbook for awhile, but eventually I went back to using my 24" LCD. I think it will be great, especially with the IPS screen.
And yeah...world's best Internet device my eye. No Flash, no go. I mean seriously, what a joke - Flash is on nearly every computer made in the last 10 years. Apple just wants to keep the app market in-house and the video services in-house, which is what Flash would take away from them, and I totally understand that.
For my purposes, as a PDF reader, it more than does the job I want it to do. But it will be interesting to see the reaction from the average user crowd - for gaming, the iPad will be huge. For textbooks, eventually it will be huge. But for normal Internet surfing...no Flash is kind of a big deal. I wonder if Apple will cave...
Apple cave? Adobe is the reason there's no Flash on the iPhone. Apple's anal about apps that meet their standards. I have close to 100 apps on my iPhone and it's crashed 3 times in 3 years. Flash would be buggy as shit and causes daily crashes and a retarded amount of slowdown. If Adobe got their shit together and delivered a good mobile version of Flash to Apple it would come out. Adobe is half lazy, half full of shitty programmers. There's a reason Windows is the only platform Flash runs decently on. Adobe sucks...
But I neeeeeeed Vimeo :biggrin:
Apple cave? Adobe is the reason there's no Flash on the iPhone. Apple's anal about apps that meet their standards. I have close to 100 apps on my iPhone and it's crashed 3 times in 3 years. Flash would be buggy as shit and causes daily crashes and a retarded amount of slowdown. If Adobe got their shit together and delivered a good mobile version of Flash to Apple it would come out. Adobe is half lazy, half full of shitty programmers. There's a reason Windows is the only platform Flash runs decently on. Adobe sucks...
Adobe is awesome.
The Macromedia team they swallowed up is full of idiots.
Now for a serious question, how is this device positioned as an ebook reader? I am "kind of" looking into that market, mostly just researching and seeing if there is anything I might actually make use of on a regular basis.
e-ink screens have far and away better battery life than one of these devices... but, how would the iPad compare?
!!! An Apple device is actually cheaper than a competitor? Woah.
There are actually several Pineview/Pinetrail netbooks that get 9-11 hours of real-world battery life for under $400. A minute or two searching on Google would have told you this.1. there isn't a netbook that gets close to 10 hours battery life, even with an expensive, bulky add on battery
Install a stripped-down OS onto any modern netbook and it will fly. Plus you still have the option of running a full-blown OS with respectable speed.2. apples to oranges, netbooks are typically slow and sluggish. The iPad looks very quick and responsive. An unfair comparison because they're 2 different devices though. The processor isn't as fast, but it doesn't have to be. A Netbook will be running a full blown OS, this won't. I've used many different Netbooks and was always left unimpressed by the performance. I watched some video of the iPad live and it looks to be far more responsive than any netbook I've used.
Why pay more for an iPad which locks you into the App Store when a netbook can run a lot more software for free?3. no it doesn't, maybe lack of Flash, okay. I have an iPhone & an iPod Touch. I can't think of anything I can't do on it, but I can do many things on it I can't do on my PC. Again, apples to oranges. The App store has a shit load of apps, if you need to do something chances are there's an app for it. Probably 5 or 10 to choose from. Obviously a PC has more software choices, but you have hundreds that do the same thing. The same holds true for the App Store, but they have a huge variety at the same time. I've spent about $500 in the App Store, there's not a single thing I need to do day to day I can't on my iPod.
The market for this thing is huge. Hardcore uses will stay away, but the target audience for this would be my sister, somebody with money to spent and very limited tech knowledge.
And that is exactly who Apple needs to draw in. Hell, I might even pick one up, they sound fun.
i think it would be a fun toy if there was the possibility of turning it into a master remote control and media interface. but im thinking there are already products that do this, just without the intarwebz built in.