iPhone 2014: It's time.

[TuxDave]

They don't allow preorders for full price buyers do they? Only people signing contracts?

That would screw over all T-mobile users. So I think they would allow preorders.

 

[Eug]

Ouch indeed, my 5 was 699$.

I'm also reading Rogers will require people to move to a minimum 80$/month plan and I'm on a 70$ unlimited everything with 6GB retentions plan that I don't want to lose.

Might be keeping my iPhone 5 after all...

My 5s was $819 for 32 GB, so there's that. Now you get 64 GB for $849. At that time, the iPhone 5 leftover stock was $599.

I'm on the Fido $56 plan which is 2 GB data and unlimited everything else. However, I got a discount on it, and a free Android phone. The plan doesn't support new iPhone subsidies anyway, so I'm just buying off contract.

But since I prefer 4.0" iPhones, and the iPhone 5s is a great phone (other than the limited RAM, just like the 6/6+ probably), I'll be sticking with the iPhone 5s for quite a while.

My wife will be sticking with the iPhone 5. She also prefer's sub-4.7" phones, and the iPhone 5 is still quite snappy in iOS 7 (and presumably iOS 8).

These are ALL 1 GB phones, and if anything the iPhone 5/5c has arguably an advantage by only being 32-bit, since that means it effectively has more memory than all iPhones released after it so far (assuming the 6/6+ is indeed 1 GB).

 

[mmntech]

As an Android user I agree with him regarding bechmarks, they are largely useless to me and I have never based a single phone purchase on any benchmark.

Suit yourselves. I still want to see iFixit rip the thing to pieces to get a look at its guts. :awe:

Higher unlocked pricing in Canada is BS. $749, I could buy a whole new laptop for that. I guess they'll used the excuse that the dollar is lower, but they've been charging us more for years. Not going to pay $80 for a plan either if that's true. I'm happy on my $65 one. Unlimited text/calling, 2GB data. Plenty for me. Think I might as well go into Mobile Devices and pester people for a OnePlus One invite.

Anybody notice that Apple quietly killed the iPod Classic? Surprised it took them that long.

 

[smackababy]

Contract free on T-Mobile is $649 for the 16gb version, as per Apple's website, $749 for the 64gb. So, it looks like you're just being charged more because Canada. =(

 

[Ichinisan]

Tim Cook has just demonstrated what I've been doing with my RFID credit cards for many years now.

This only seems like a bigger deal in the US I'm guessing, just because the US has been many years behind the rest of the world in adopting this technology.

US has had it for ages too. No one uses it. Probably because it's incredibly insecure.

Mythbusters planned to do an episode about it and the CC companies told Discovery channel flat-out that they had better not even entertain the idea. Apparently, it's just too dangerous to tell the masses how easy it is to capture / clone RFID cards.

 

[Ichinisan]

128GB 5.5" iPhone 6+... I am tempted!! I had to start being a bit miserly with my apps on my 64GB phone, and it gets worse as I add more and more music (I'm one of those people that hates only having a few songs from an album regardless of whether I listen to them all).

Not sure what I think about the Apple Watch. I kind of prefer the look of the Moto 360's round face, but the Moto 360 was a bit half-arsed in regard to battery life... so it has its own problems.

Ever consider iTunes Match?

 

[Ichinisan]

I have no interest in the Plus, but I'm definitely happy about the 128GB regular model. I keep my entire music library on my 64GB iPhone 4S which is 31GB all by itself. Add apps, games, pictures, and videos and things can get crowded pretty quickly.

iTunes Match.

 

[Ichinisan]

Getting the 4.7" on contract, the 5.5" is too big for my taste and I have an iPad Air anyways. Very disappointed the base model is 16GB instead of 32GB. I've been fine with the 16GB on my iPhone 5, but 16GB was the base model for my iPhone 4 FOUR FRICKIN' YEARS AGO!! I changed cars twice in that time, and they're still stuck on 16GB!!

Oh well, most likely a 16GB iPhone 6 for me.

16GB was the base capacity for the 3GS also. I believe it was about 1 year after launch that they released an 8GB version.

 

[Ichinisan]

Apple shares have been taking a slide since the announcement.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL&ql=1

Not sure if that means anything. Whether it's normal, or whether investors are not impressed.

I'm thinking Apple will make huge royalties from retailers supporting Apple Pay. I wouldn't dump Apple stock.

 

[Eug]

US has had it for ages too. No one uses it. Probably because it's incredibly insecure.

Mythbusters planned to do an episode about it and the CC companies told Discovery channel flat-out that they had better not even entertain the idea. Apparently, it's just too dangerous to tell the masses how easy it is to capture / clone RFID cards.

Yet, fraud rates are much, much higher in the US than in places like Canada. Not even in the same league.

Most analysts blame that directly on the swipe technology used in the US, vs. chip and pin for higher priced purchased items elsewhere. However, those places with chip and pin ALSO use RFID tap for pin-less purchases, yet remain much lower in fraud rates than in the US.

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Here is one-handed mode.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/42...0432_2431a5ed0ae.5.1.15010748575036657457.mp4

 

[Ichinisan]

Going to apple.com in Safari on my iPad right now , crashes the browser.
Did it three times. The 3rd time I force closed Safari before opening it again. lol

Same here. Rebooting my iPad doesn't help.

 

[Aikouka]

Ever consider iTunes Match?

At least from what I know, iTunes Match still stores the songs on your phone, but it does it as you play them. That also means I have to use my cellular data to play (or rather, download the) music. A friend of mine uses it, and he seems to like it, but I guess I'm just one of those "old tech" people when it comes to music. I don't use Pandora, Last.fm, or Spotify even though I have an account on all three of them.

 

[mmntech]

I'm thinking Apple will make huge royalties from retailers supporting Apple Pay. I wouldn't dump Apple stock.

In the long term, for sure. Though in the short run it signals to me they weren't too impressed with the new hardware. Though I'm sure the iPhone 6 will sell out quickly. What I'm curious to see is how well the watch does. Especially at its price point.

 

[Ichinisan]

At least from what I know, iTunes Match still stores the songs on your phone, but it does it as you play them. That also means I have to use my cellular data to play (or rather, download the) music. A friend of mine uses it, and he seems to like it, but I guess I'm just one of those "old tech" people when it comes to music. I don't use Pandora, Last.fm, or Spotify even though I have an account on all three of them.

I stream iTunes Match every moment I'm out walking or driving and rarely come anywhere near 5GB (that's where AT&T would start to throttle me). It's not even a concern.

I haven't seen any evidence for aggressive caching, but you can download whole albums and songs with a single tap if you know you're going to be listening to it for a while (I don't bother).

Do it when you're on wifi if you're concerned.

 

[Rakehellion]

Mythbusters planned to do an episode about it and the CC companies told Discovery channel flat-out that they had better not even entertain the idea.

Source?

 

[Ichinisan]

Source?

I'll try to find it. Adam Savage talked at a public event about how the world's most powerful lawyers showed him and the crew the meaning of fear.

[edit]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-St_ltH90Oc

He made some factual errors in recounting who was involved in that conference call (he wasn't there himself, but Grant Imahara was).

 

[Ichinisan]

The keynote video stopped crashing Safari on my iPad. I'm finally watching it. No Asian language either.

 

[Koing]

That's why, despite certain Anandtech editor's protestations, some people think MicroSD cards are rather useful. My 2 year old Galaxy S3 has a 64GB MicroSD card at the moment. If I want more storage I can just get a 128GB card instead, and put more music/videos/etc on it as I want.
And 128GB MicroSD didn't even exist 2 years ago.

Would be nice if all phones had it. Never going to happen with Apple, but even most non-Apple manufacturers started to phase MicroSD out of high end phones, while increasing specs.

Standard Apple Tax stiffing you on memory as per usual. Nothing new and same with ram on laptops. It's just what you expect from Apple.

Koing

 

[Koing]

It'll probably be £709 for the 64GB version off contract. I'm on a sweet £18 for unlimited data (I use about 4-6GB a month, nothing crazy), unlimited text (never use that much) and about 600mins or so. That is plenty for me. Includes 4G as well.

It'll be interesting to see how much the phone subsidy will actually be. Of course they will jack up my monthly to £40-45.

Current 5S for the 32GB is £9 with a 24month £47 a month contract, but of course it was more expensive when the 5S was first out.

Koing

 

[CZroe]

I'm thinking Apple will make huge royalties from retailers supporting Apple Pay. I wouldn't dump Apple stock.

They particularly said that previous attempts weren't successful because other companies wanted to monetize it at the necessary expense of privacy or convenience, implying that they did not want to monetize it.

Yet, fraud rates are much, much higher in the US than in places like Canada. Not even in the same league.

Most analysts blame that directly on the swipe technology used in the US, vs. chip and pin for higher priced purchased items elsewhere. However, those places with chip and pin ALSO use RFID tap for pin-less purchases, yet remain much lower in fraud rates than in the US.

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Here is one-handed mode.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/42...0432_2431a5ed0ae.5.1.15010748575036657457.mp4

Blinc and other wireless credit cards require the retailer to have your full name and account number, which they receive from the CC compa y when scanning it even though it isn't stored im the wireless communication. This is imcredibly insecure no matter what the US vs. CA statistics show about the general fraud rate (it's every bit as common here, BTW).

Same here. Rebooting my iPad doesn't help.

Same here on an iPod touch 5G. It was bungled in every way imaginable anyway. I tried on an iPad mini too.

Even when it didn't crash the browser and it actually played, it played with a Chinese voiceover the first few times I got it to load. I had to reload repeatedly because it kept locking up or "playing" a black screen with silence. I couldn't even hear it on the iPod but captions didn't work. When I finally did get it to play at about 2:30PM, I could only rewind to about 1:30PM. It played about 30 minutes with 30 minutes remaining when it suddenly stopped and their site said that the whole thing would be available "soon." At least let those of us who started finish it! What good is the skip back 30 seconds function with no fast play and you have to scrub past something you wanted to see to avoid being cut off when the live even ends?!

Several times the "live" link just showed an all-zero countdown telling me to return at that time for a live event and to click a link to make a "reminder." I did this several times and the iPod notofications still said "no events." Ha!

Apple's attempt to impress with their incredible server capacity at their datacenter fails once again! Nothing but skiping stopping, crashing, failing to load, and out-right error messages (got "not authorized" on their site a few times).

 

[Koing]

You guys in the US get totally shafted on mobile phone bills. But we get the shaft on the phone itself due to exchange rates

Koing

 

[Eug]

Going to apple.com in Safari on my iPad right now , crashes the browser.
Did it three times. The 3rd time I force closed Safari before opening it again. lol

What about now? Works fine for me on my iPad 2.

 

[Pheran]

The 6+ also runs 1080p as opposed to 720.

That's because it's pointless to cram more pixels onto a 4.7" screen. It accomplishes nothing other than slowing down the GPU and burning more power. Anyone upgrading just for "higher resolution" is a fool. In fact the 400 DPI of the 6+ is mild overkill.

 

[Ichinisan]

That's because it's pointless to cram more pixels onto a 4.7" screen. It accomplishes nothing other than slowing down the GPU and burning more power. Anyone upgrading just for "higher resolution" is a fool. In fact the 400 DPI of the 6+ is mild overkill.

Apps use the extra resolution. They'll introduce UI elements that aren't present on the smaller screen devices.

 

[ZGR]

With the 1GB of RAM ranging from the iPhone 5 to the 6, I hope iOS 8 slims down a bit for resource use. I have about ~ 450 mb of RAM free when no apps are in the background. Letting Safari and other apps have their way throughout the day and I'll have no free memory. iOS will kill idle apps once I am out of free memory.

It's not a huge issue on iOS 7 except for the occasional Safari crashes when low on memory. Once apps start being a lot more resource heavy, multitasking won't be so fun.

My iPhone 3G has about 50mb of free memory to play with, and once that number runs out, the app will crash if it needs more than the 128mb of RAM the 3G has.