Is it significantly noticeable that apple has increased the color saturation of their retina display?
Also do you guys think that the color saturation increased was much needed?
Just a quick survey.
It looks better than the iPhone 4S, in-person.
However, it does not match my computer screen. Pictures that looked great on my iPhone 5 looked less saturated on my computer screen (calibrated IPS display). So when I edit photos on my iPhone and get them perfect and then throw them online, I end up with a totally different, more de-saturated image than I had previewed on the phone. I tried playing with the brightness adjustments on the iPhone to no avail. I went back to my 4S due to the purple camera flare issue on my iPhone 5 and I'm getting a lot better results with color matching from the phone to the camera. It's not 1:1 but I have a much better idea of what I'm getting on the 4S vs. the 5.
Kaido, when you say your computer screen is calibrated, is it professional calibrated (to ISF standards)?
I just use an EyeOne Display 2 (although I'm probably due for another calibration, haha). Calibration aside, the bottom line is I want the pictures to look good even on normal monitors, because that's what 99.9% of the world is going to see my photos on, and the pictures look duller on computer screens than on the iPhone 5's screen. Much duller. With the 4S's screen, I can get a pretty good idea of what I'm going to end up with - it's not totally off-base for the preview on the phone vs. a TN or IPS LCD computer monitor. On the 5's screen, the images are much more vivid on the phone - I had to over-saturate them on the phone before I put them online if I wanted the image I originally intended to create to look that way on a computer screen.
So when you do photo work, is it not for printing purposes? I would've thought that's value for a correctly calibrated display. I find your use interesting though if the audience is only via computer displays. You need an undersaturated display to work on because the majority of the world has undersaturated displays.
1- You can`t calibrate one and not the other and expect images to match. (Monitor calibrated, phone not).
2-You can`t calibrate two devices expect images to match if they`re
a) not working under the same color space (iphone hits 99% of sRGB...can`t find anything conclusive, but assuming it`s operating in that), or
b) can`t match the same levels of saturation within the same color space.
What monitor are you using?
And if you don`t calibrate your printers, it`s all a wash anyway.
Ok. Just so I understand...
The iPhone is over saturated but monitors are dull. So to compensate to make it look ok you increase saturation on the camera to make them look good in a monitor...which is really, at that point over saturating them.
So I'd suggest its the phone that's good and a crap, uncalibrated monitor.
I can't tell if you're ripping the phone or not. The fix is the pc, not the phone.
So, bottom line: my gripe is that the iPhone 5's screen is overly saturated and doesn't give me results similar to how it looks on my computer, either TN or IPS or calibrated IPS. It's a consumer product. I kinda want it to match my consumer stuff. But even on my nice IPS screens at home & at work, it still doesn't match. So that's what I'm getting at...yes, we could calibrate every computer in the world to match the new iPhone, but it kind of seems like it should be the other way around. I'm not saying the new screen is a bad thing, just an annoyance for me that my previews are too vivid vs. a computer screen. Make more sense now?
If you want to see accurate colors in photos, videos, and all standard consumer content the display needs to closely match the Standard Color Gamut that was used to produce the content, which is called sRGB / Rec.709. A display with a larger Color Gamut cannot show colors that are not in the original content - it just exaggerates and distorts the colors. Most of the recent generation LCD Smartphones have Color Gamuts around 60 percent of the Standard Gamut, which produces somewhat subdued colors. The iPhone 4 has a 64 percent Color Gamut, but the new iPad pulled way ahead and has a virtually perfect 99 percent of the Standard Color Gamut. The iPhone 5 has an almost identical Color Gamut to the new iPad and the Viewing Tests confirm its excellent color accuracy.
The iPhone5 screen is "more saturated" than most consumer screens but it's not "over saturated". But yeah, I get what you're getting at anyways.
But why post edit on your phone? Why not just wait until you're on your computer to add your effects and what not?
So I'd say the iPhone 5 screen actually shows colors as they are intended to be, and if your monitor doesn't show the same thing, then chances are... your panel just isn't able to display the entire spectrum.
It's sitting at the local Apple Store waiting for you to pick it up. You just have to hand Apple $900 first.Yeah, I think that's right. The downside is that, at the present state of technology, it doesn't match the rest of the universe! Now where's my 27" Apple 97% sRGB monitor? haha
Yeah, I think that's right. The downside is that, at the present state of technology, it doesn't match the rest of the universe! Now where's my 27" Apple 97% sRGB monitor? haha
It's sitting at the local Apple Store waiting for you to pick it up. You just have to hand Apple $900 first.
It matches the rMBP actually.
In fact, it falls short of the rMBP. My rMBP has a more "correct" white balance than my iPhone 5.
But other than that, color gamut between the two screens are very similar.
It matches the rMBP actually.
In fact, it falls short of the rMBP. My rMBP has a more "correct" white balance than my iPhone 5.
But other than that, color gamut between the two screens are very similar.