iPhone 5S/5C thread

[WelshBloke]

... you only get one set of fingerprints.

Says who? I'm building up a collection now.

 

[yuku]

I know you're joking but it doesn't actually work with severed fingers.

But the touch ID is not secure enough since the finger print can be get pretty easy. so we should not count on the touch ID technology to protect our secrets that stored on the phone.

 

[Eug]

Just a quick mobile update.

9 million units sold! Yowza.

Ironically this mobile update comes to you via Android.

 

[bearxor]

Yeah I saw the 9m sold.

Very curious what the breakdown is between 5S/5C.

Apple hit 5m iPhone 5's the first weekend. Even if this is a 60/40 or 70/30 split between the C and the S it's still pretty impressive for three days worth of sales.

 

[Qbah]

Just a quick mobile update.

9 million units sold! Yowza.

Ironically this mobile update comes to you via Android.

Just saw it on Engadget. A crazy high number and an incredible success, by any standards I'm perfectly happy with my HTC One, but I'm considering a new iPad once the next generation is announced.

 

[Eug]

Yeah I saw the 9m sold.

Very curious what the breakdown is between 5S/5C.

Apple hit 5m iPhone 5's the first weekend. Even if this is a 60/40 or 70/30 split between the C and the S it's still pretty impressive for three days worth of sales.

This weekend they sold 2.5X the number Blackberry did in the entire last quarter, including all of the BB7 models.

It almost makes the $1 billion for GTA V seem like chump change.

They didn't break down the 5S / 5C sales numbers, but it should be noted that for active cell phone use, the 5S has 3X the presence that the 5C has:

iPhone 5s Outsells 5c by a Factor of 3.4x in the United States Opening Weekend

(The title is misleading, but nonetheless there are a LOT of 5S units out there.)

Specifically, in the US, 1.05% of all iPhones in use in the US are the 5S, and 0.31% of all iPhones in use in the US are the 5C.

 

[Qbah]

200 million devices already running iOS7. That is crazy too...

 

[Oyeve]

200 million devices already running iOS7. That is crazy too...

Apple would have made a killing if they charged 99 cents for ios7!

 

[Eug]

Apple would have made a killing if they charged 99 cents for ios7!

I think it benefits them more to make sure everyone updates quickly. Just $0.99 would mean a lot of people would refuse to upgrade.

 

[Commodus]

Some fun back-of-the-napkin math: Apple said it was going to notch 700 million iOS devices sold by October. Over 200 million people are using iOS 7. That means that 29 percent of all iOS devices ever sold are already running the latest software. Reduce that to devices that actually support iOS 7 and the figure is even higher.

I'd expect KitKat to reach that kind of figure by late 2014... maybe.

 

[Eug]

Video: Somebody in Toronto just gave some random person off the street an iPhone 5S

The requirement was that person had to have a horrible phone.

 

[bearxor]

For anyone that might be interested. I noticed in the Apple Store App this morning that you can now order a phone for pickup at an apple store.

If they're in stock anyways.

 

[Red Storm]

Some fun back-of-the-napkin math: Apple said it was going to notch 700 million iOS devices sold by October. Over 200 million people are using iOS 7. That means that 29 percent of all iOS devices ever sold are already running the latest software. Reduce that to devices that actually support iOS 7 and the figure is even higher.

I'd expect KitKat to reach that kind of figure by late 2014... maybe.

If this thread was in the Apple subforum I'd leave this alone but here I feel the need to remind people:

You won't need Kitkat to get most of the new features and updates for core apps. Google has long since brought new features straight to apps, so no waiting a whole year or relying on OS versions. But I understand that this fact will continue to be ignored by those who try to fit every peg through an iOS shaped hole.

 

[Anubis]

Some fun back-of-the-napkin math: Apple said it was going to notch 700 million iOS devices sold by October. Over 200 million people are using iOS 7. That means that 29 percent of all iOS devices ever sold are already running the latest software. Reduce that to devices that actually support iOS 7 and the figure is even higher.

I'd expect KitKat to reach that kind of figure by late 2014... maybe.

yea it is pretty amazing, about the android thing, the combo of carriers being dicks (VZW) and phone manufs having skins (samsung, moto, whoever) really delays the process

edit: also what Red Storm Said

 

[TerryMathews]

If this thread was in the Apple subforum I'd leave this alone but here I feel the need to remind people:

You won't need Kitkat to get most of the new features and updates for core apps. Google has long since brought new features straight to apps, so no waiting a whole year or relying on OS versions. But I understand that this fact will continue to be ignored by those who try to fit every peg through an iOS shaped hole.

That and the Google Device Framework now allows Google to silently upgrade a number of functions and libraries, even deploy new core features, across multiple devices and OSes. See Android Device Manager for an example.

 

[Eug]

For anyone that might be interested. I noticed in the Apple Store App this morning that you can now order a phone for pickup at an apple store.

If they're in stock anyways.

Yep, but US only. Or at least not in Canada.

Personal Pickup is not currently an available option in Canada. If you'd like to check inventory at a local store, I'd recommend contacting or visiting that location.

 

[bearxor]

Yep, but US only. Or at least not in Canada.

Personal Pickup is not currently an available option in Canada. If you'd like to check inventory at a local store, I'd recommend contacting or visiting that location.

Pssssh. Who give a flip about Canadians?

 

[bearxor]

If this thread was in the Apple subforum I'd leave this alone but here I feel the need to remind people:

You won't need Kitkat to get most of the new features and updates for core apps. Google has long since brought new features straight to apps, so no waiting a whole year or relying on OS versions. But I understand that this fact will continue to be ignored by those who try to fit every peg through an iOS shaped hole.

Honestly, in my mind, this is just about the strongest point Android has for it right now.

If I were in charge of iOS 7 the first thing I would have done is decoupled the apps from the OS.

 

[lothar]

Honestly, in my mind, this is just about the strongest point Android has for it right now.

If I were in charge of iOS 7 the first thing I would have done is decoupled the apps from the OS.

What exactly would doing such a thing on an Apple device achieve?

Or is it that Apple users can't get updates for "stock" apps(Maps, Search, Calendar, etc...) until their next iOS "x" iteration updates?
If so, then wow...that's pretty bad and I see your point.

 

[TerryMathews]

What exactly would doing such a thing on an Apple device achieve?

Or is it that Apple users can't get updates for "stock" apps(Maps, Search, Calendar, etc...) until their next iOS "x" iteration updates?
If so, then wow...that's pretty bad and I see your point.

That is it exactly.

For example, iOS 5 uses Google Maps and iOS 6 uses Apple maps. Period. It's built into the iOS, there is no upgrading or crossing.

 

[Eug]

Apple already has had partial decoupling. They keep the full feature set for the new iOS version, but point updates get partial updates.

This was more common on Mac OS X though. For example, Safari often gets many of the speed upgrades in the last iteration of an OS, that the new version of Safari gets for the new OS.

And of course, you can download Google Maps for iOS 6 or 7.

 

[TerryMathews]

Apple already has had partial decoupling. They keep the full feature set for the new iOS version, but point updates get partial updates.

This was more common on Mac OS X though. For example, Safari often gets many of the speed upgrades in the last iteration of an OS, that the new version of Safari gets for the new OS.

And of course, you can download Google Maps for iOS 6 or 7.

That still isn't as good as what Google is doing with Android.

 

[Eug]

That still isn't as good as what Google is doing with Android.

Perhaps from that one perspective, but overall I think iOS's upgrade policies are far better than Android's.

After the weekend, in just a few days, over 200 million iDevices are now on iOS 7.

 

[TerryMathews]

Perhaps from that one perspective, but overall I think iOS's upgrade policies are far better than Android's.

After the weekend, in just a few days, over 200 million iDevices are now on iOS 7.

I think Google is doing the best it can do with its model.

The unfortunate thing is, there's no reason aside from stubbornness that Apple can't move to Google's model and distribute core apps via the app store.

 

[Eug]

Well, I think Apple's approach is much simpler as well, albeit more restrictive.