iPhone 5S/5C thread

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bearxor

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April? Seriously? That would be rather strange.

Yeah, I've been leaning towards a mid-cycle upgrade myself. It sure would be nice to stop being so fall heavy in their releases and should smooth out sales and revenues throughout the year.

I'm just expecting a spring "focus on entertainment" event with a larger iPhone, a larger iPad and an updated AppleTV experience.

I really want them to put out a larger phone to see how many of the "I'm only on Android for the screen size!" People actually switch. I'd hope they don't go bigger than 4.5".
 
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Ravynmagi

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Yeah, I've been leaning towards a mid-cycle upgrade myself. It sure would be nice to stop being so fall heavy in their releases and should smooth out sales and revenues throughout the year.

I'm just expecting a spring "focus on entertainment" event with a larger iPhone, a larger iPad and an updated AppleTV experience.

I really want them to put out a larger phone to see how many of the "I'm only on Android for the screen size!" People actually switch. I'd hope they don't go bigger than 4.5".

They used to be spread out through the year. But didn't they intentionally move to a fall heavy release for their products? I figure they do this for the back to school shopping and seasonal holidays.
 

Eug

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Xmas season maybe, but the iPhone and iPad releases missed the back-to-school crowd.
 

Eug

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Even despite supply constraints for the gold, gold represented 27% of all US iPhone 5s sales.

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/30...-supply-constraints-blue-leads-for-iphone-5c/

Furthermore, the desire for the gold version was the same between men and women. Also, for men, the gold was just as popular as the silver.



They didn't spell out the details, but judging by the graph, it's:

Men
Gray: 46%
Silver: 27%
Gold: 27%

Women (Adds up to 99%)
Gray: 38%
Silver: 36%
Gold: 27%

For the 5c, men prefer white with blue a close second, and women prefer red/pink with blue a distant second. Blue was the overall winner though.

Yellow was the least liked for both genders, although I personally would buy the yellow. I thought I might like the red/pink and blue, but when I saw them in person, I didn't like them as much as the yellow.
 

Ravynmagi

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I returned my "space gray" iPhone 5S and am still waiting for the backordered Gold from Verizon (they estimated 11/11 a month ago).

They gray was too light, I would have kept it if it was a darker color, but found it boring.
 

ghost recon88

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This may have been asked already, but is there a way to view or limit data usage on a 5s running 7.0.3 like there is on Android devices? Basically I want the iPhone user getting notified somehow when they are approaching their 2GB limit.
 

bearxor

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This may have been asked already, but is there a way to view or limit data usage on a 5s running 7.0.3 like there is on Android devices? Basically I want the iPhone user getting notified somehow when they are approaching their 2GB limit.

tl;dr: There's nothing that you're looking for on iPhone.

Settings > Cellular

Will give you usage statistics per app and allow you to turn off apps you don't want used over cellular.

It has to be reset manually, however. It won't do much for you in this case.

Is the data limit 2GB on the whole account the phone is on? Usually the provider sends a text when they get close to the data limit. On AT&T, I get one at 50, 65 and 90% of my 10GB plan.

The fingerprint reader gets dirty so easily and won't read my print after a while unless I clean it.

I've been wondering if this would happen. I haven't had it yet and I've been avoiding wiping the button. I do notice that if my thumb is wet or something it won't take and i have to wipe it on my pants a couple of times to work.
 

chin311

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Well had to make a trip to the Apple Store (aka hell) because my new Silver 5S was giving me some odd problems.

Most troubling was the actual PHONE portion, in calls I constantly had people telling me they couldn't understand me or had trouble because I sounded "garbled" or "hollow". I tested it back and forth with my wife and confirmed it sounded like absolute sh!t.

Another thing it did was if I picked up the phone for the first time in a while and pressed toward the upper right corner of the screen it almost made like a light "pop" noise as if a bubble of air was trapped underneath or something strange.

It also had the rattly power button issue but that seems to be "normal"...wasn't that way on my 5 though.

All in all I think I got a lemon, they replaced it after drilling me with questions but we'll see how this one treats me. I sure as hell don't wanna go back!
 

Fingolfin269

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I've got to admit that I'm glad I went back to iOS with the 5S. The battery life and stability are top notch and I forgot just how much I prefer the native email client for business use. If Apple can just get something to market with a bigger screen I doubt I'll be tempted to move again.
 

Blackjack200

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Sorry if this is slightly OT. I have a 4S and would absolutely love a 5S, but I've decided to prioritize paying down some debt over getting a new phone.

I am eligible for an upgrade though, and would like to take advantage of it by buying a subsidized 5S for $200 and selling it for whatever the market will bear.

As a Verizon user, does anyone know the best way of going through the mechanics on this? Once the 5S's are back in stock, do I just go in and say "I want to upgrade but don't want to activate it right now."? Will they let me do this?

Also, once I have it, what's the best way to sell it? I'd like to avoid Craigslist and ebay if I can, but if they're the best channels I guess I could go that way.
 

ghost recon88

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tl;dr: There's nothing that you're looking for on iPhone.

Settings > Cellular

Will give you usage statistics per app and allow you to turn off apps you don't want used over cellular.

It has to be reset manually, however. It won't do much for you in this case.

Is the data limit 2GB on the whole account the phone is on? Usually the provider sends a text when they get close to the data limit. On AT&T, I get one at 50, 65 and 90% of my 10GB plan.

I googled it, and couldn't find anything. The 2GB is just for that phone (out of 6GB) so Verizon won't send them anything since it's a shared plan. Maybe there is a 3rd party app.
 

bearxor

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Sorry if this is slightly OT. I have a 4S and would absolutely love a 5S, but I've decided to prioritize paying down some debt over getting a new phone.

I am eligible for an upgrade though, and would like to take advantage of it by buying a subsidized 5S for $200 and selling it for whatever the market will bear.

As a Verizon user, does anyone know the best way of going through the mechanics on this? Once the 5S's are back in stock, do I just go in and say "I want to upgrade but don't want to activate it right now."? Will they let me do this?

Also, once I have it, what's the best way to sell it? I'd like to avoid Craigslist and ebay if I can, but if they're the best channels I guess I could go that way.
No, they'll almost certainly have to activate it in store. They can, however, activate it back.

I guess you're trying to make some kind of profit off of it, but the market isn't really that great for it. Your baseline cost if $650. That's how much a brand new one from Apple costs. While the supply is still short, it's not drastically short. Apple stores are getting them in stock all the time during the day so you're not going to get more than $650.

And I don't think you're going to get CLOSE to $650 either. Looking at recently sold on Swappa, it looks like they're trending about $50-100 less than retail, unless you get a gold one.

So you're looking at, let's say $600, minus your initial $275 (which would be $199 + $30 upgrade fee + tax), you'll come out with around $300-$325, if you can find someone to buy it locally and not have to worry about paypal fees or shipping.

Also, if you're interested in a 5S for yourself, you could always trade in your 4S for it, and knock the price of the 5S down to about $100 or less. Just food for thought. Selling your 4S yourself would cancel the cost out, or really close to it.

I googled it, and couldn't find anything. The 2GB is just for that phone (out of 6GB) so Verizon won't send them anything since it's a shared plan. Maybe there is a 3rd party app.

A third party app on iOS won't have hooks in to that low-level of information on the device. It could possibly be solved by a jailbreak hack, but you're probably going to be waiting a while on that one.

But you may just want to check out the usage controls Verizon provides you:
https://insidersguide.vzw.com/article/my-verizon-usage-controls/

They will let you set a data limit per line on the account and send that line (or the account admin as well) a text when they reach certain percentages of that usage. You can set the line to have a 2GB limit, give them a text at 50, 75 and 100% of that usage, and then have the data connection disabled once they hit it. Seems to be what you'd want.

EDIT: I just noticed this feature seems to be $5/mo extra, which sucks. But, if it helps you solve a problem that may be costing you more than $5/mo, then it should at least be worth it.
 
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Blackjack200

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No, they'll almost certainly have to activate it in store. They can, however, activate it back.

I guess you're trying to make some kind of profit off of it, but the market isn't really that great for it. Your baseline cost if $650. That's how much a brand new one from Apple costs. While the supply is still short, it's not drastically short. Apple stores are getting them in stock all the time during the day so you're not going to get more than $650.

And I don't think you're going to get CLOSE to $650 either. Looking at recently sold on Swappa, it looks like they're trending about $50-100 less than retail, unless you get a gold one.

So you're looking at, let's say $600, minus your initial $275 (which would be $199 + $30 upgrade fee + tax), you'll come out with around $300-$325, if you can find someone to buy it locally and not have to worry about paypal fees or shipping.

Also, if you're interested in a 5S for yourself, you could always trade in your 4S for it, and knock the price of the 5S down to about $100 or less. Just food for thought. Selling your 4S yourself would cancel the cost out, or really close to it.

Wait, Apple stores are getting them in stock all the time? So could I get myself up at the ass crack of dawn, go to an apple store before it opens, get a gold iPhone, then sell that for > $650?
 

bearxor

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Before it opens isn't a good idea. They do usually sell out and won't replenish until their shipments come in the next day. Most stores seem to get two shipments a day or so. Some might get more, some less.

You want to check this site out:
iphonechecker.herokuapp.com/search/19067/verizon

When you notice what you want to buy is in stock, you can go to the Apple Store web page and buy it on there and select in-store pickup.

Gold seems to be the only thing that's going to actually sell for above retail price, but it's also the hardest to get to begin with.

The Apple stores will definitely activate the SIM card in the phone on your account. Then you'll have to go to a Verizon store or call them to get it switched back to your iPhone 4S. The Apple store does not, however, have to actually open the package in order to do this.
 

SlitheryDee

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Well had to make a trip to the Apple Store (aka hell) because my new Silver 5S was giving me some odd problems.

Most troubling was the actual PHONE portion, in calls I constantly had people telling me they couldn't understand me or had trouble because I sounded "garbled" or "hollow". I tested it back and forth with my wife and confirmed it sounded like absolute sh!t.

Another thing it did was if I picked up the phone for the first time in a while and pressed toward the upper right corner of the screen it almost made like a light "pop" noise as if a bubble of air was trapped underneath or something strange.

It also had the rattly power button issue but that seems to be "normal"...wasn't that way on my 5 though.

All in all I think I got a lemon, they replaced it after drilling me with questions but we'll see how this one treats me. I sure as hell don't wanna go back!

Sounds like a bad unit to me. I can say that my 5s had none of those problems. I hadn't noticed anything about the power button, but after reading your post I examined mine. It has a bit of "wiggle" if you touch it lightly and move it back and forth with your finger, but it doesn't rattle at all.
 

Eug

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Wait, Apple stores are getting them in stock all the time? So could I get myself up at the ass crack of dawn, go to an apple store before it opens, get a gold iPhone, then sell that for > $650?
On the Saturday after the launch, I went to the mall at 3 in the afternoon to buy some shoes for my kid. I stopped in at the Apple Store just because it was in the same mall and asked about the 5s and they actually had a couple units there.

It wasn't in gold though so I didn't buy, and let the next person get one.

I followed the forums since people were posting which stores got stock and another store got some a few days later. Also gray so I didn't bother, but told my friend and he just walked in after work (6 pm?) and got one.

The problem with the golds though is that they have been in low volume, and sell out in minutes, and they don't arrive at the ass-crack of dawn. I believe around here they usually arrive sometime mid-day.

For the US you can use an iPhone stock checker website, but there is no comparable app in Canada (where I am).
 

AznAnarchy99

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There's no tech for dirt.

Its more like natural finger oils at this point. Ill unlock it, a bit of my print is there and after a while it blocks the next read. Also noticed if my hands are a tad sweatier than normal it won't read.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Looks like I'll be picking up the 5S as well. It is the best overall smartphone on the market today IMHO.

I really wanted to give WP a try this round, but the platform just isn't where it needs to be right now. My Nokia 520 experience has been great, but it has shown me WP is probably another year or two away from really being able to compete.

My computing platform is now split. I have the iPhone 5S for my phone needs and the Surface Pro 2 for tablet/laptop duties.
 

bearxor

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Looks like I'll be picking up the 5S as well. It is the best overall smartphone on the market today IMHO.

I really wanted to give WP a try this round, but the platform just isn't where it needs to be right now. My Nokia 520 experience has been great, but it has shown me WP is probably another year or two away from really being able to compete.

My computing platform is now split. I have the iPhone 5S for my phone needs and the Surface Pro 2 for tablet/laptop duties.

That'll be me in a few weeks. Planning on switching the iPad out for a Dell Venue 11 Pro. Probably make the movie to WP next year, provided Microsoft doesn't completely drop the ball.
 

Ns1

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That'll be me in a few weeks. Planning on switching the iPad out for a Dell Venue 11 Pro. Probably make the movie to WP next year, provided Microsoft doesn't completely drop the ball.

+1 here, except an SP2 like OneOfTheseDays
 

OneOfTheseDays

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+1 here, except an SP2 like OneOfTheseDays

I have to say now is a great time to be a consumer. We have so much choice, and I can freely choose a platform like iOS and not have to worry about my MSFT services not working.

Love the iPhone. It's such a damn good phone, I couldn't pull the trigger on anything else at the end of the day.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Wow there's a scratch on my screen. I guess its not as resistant as my previous android phones. Any recommendations on a protector reasonably priced?
 
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