iPhone 7

[Kaido]

Actually, VR wouldn't make sense, because then it would only be for vertical video due to the side-by-side layout, so I'm guessing it'd be refocus, if anything.

 

[Rakehellion]

If it is dual-camera, I wonder if it's going to be 3D (or VR).

The cameras are way too close together for 3D. I was hoping for a depth sensor.

Also, I wonder what new features are on the front-facing camera.

 

[Eug]

They say it's going to come in deep blue. No more space grey. And it's going to look much like an iPhone 6s.

 

[TheStu]

They say it's going to come in deep blue. No more space grey. And it's going to look much like an iPhone 6s.

I'd love to see them bring the iPod Touch colors to the phones. iPhone Product [RED] anyone?? HOT.

 

[Eug]

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/photos-iphone-7-plus-pro-114419/

Above is a pic of the dual-lens camera of the iPhone 7 Plus.

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So I've been surfing on and off using my wife's iPhone 6s and my 5S side by side. Because of my old eyes, I've been having more and more problems focusing on the small fonts on my iPhone. Presbyopia is a bitch. My problems with near focusing are a lot worse now than they were just 2 years ago.

The additional problem with my 5S is that there is no true zoom mode. Although in standard mode, the font size of the 6s and the 5S is the same, on the 6s there is a zoom mode, which increases the font size for everything, which makes it easier to read. The problem there though is once you increase the font size, you effectively lose the screen real estate advantage over the 5S in real terms. It's bigger but doesn't have significantly more content width-wise say when you're surfing. This has also become a problem, since many websites are now targeting 4.7" phones but with standard font sizes.

The 6s fits OK in some of my pockets, but now I'm wondering if I just take a chance and plunge into the 5.5" category. Personally I think the size of the 5.5" phones is ridiculous. They don't fit well in many pockets, and they are absolutely impossible for me one-hand, but I already have enough problems one-handing the 4.7" 6s. (I have small hands.) That's why I've clung to the 4.0" sized phones for such a long time.

One thing that makes me consider the humungous 5.5" is the improved camera. If the 5.5" is the only one with a dual-camera as rumoured (see above) and is the only one with optical image stabilization for both video and still photos, I may give one a shot. The bigger size would also make it more pleasant for viewing photos and videos. I'd probably still carry my iPad around to some places though. 10" is still much nicer for videos compared to 5.5".

Too bad no OLED for the 2016 though. OLED has its problems too, but I'm sure if Apple used OLED, it'd be top tier OLED with great colour balance. I'd almost be tempted to wait for 2017 to get OLED but there's no guarantee it will get OLED until 2018, if at all:

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160515000181

 

[Cappuccino]

32 GB minimum. Because it's about time.
so does that mean it will be more expensive?

 

[Koing]

I'll probably skip this and see how the 10th anniversary phone is. The phones now are pretty much too good and you can go back a few years and be happy with them apart from the battery life

Koing

 

[Eug]

I'll probably skip this and see how the 10th anniversary phone is. The phones now are pretty much too good and you can go back a few years and be happy with them apart from the battery life

With my 5S, my main concerns:

1) Battery is mediocre.
2) No Apple Pay
3) Screen is becoming difficult to read with my presbyopia and with the new sites targeting bigger phones.
4) Lots of app reloads (1 GB RAM).
5) App loading is slow these days when using desktop sites.

I think I'd only be really happy with a 6s/6s+ or else the 7/7+. Not so much with the 6/6+. Mind you, if I had the 6/6+, I'd probably wait for the 2017 model before upgrading.

 

[Cappuccino]

With my 5S, my main concerns:

1) Battery is mediocre.
2) No Apple Pay
3) Screen is becoming difficult to read with my presbyopia and with the new sites targeting bigger phones.
4) Lots of app reloads (1 GB RAM).
5) App loading is slow these days when using desktop sites.

I think I'd only be really happy with a 6s/6s+ or else the 7/7+. Not so much with the 6/6+. Mind you, if I had the 6/6+, I'd probably wait for the 2017 model before upgrading.

I won't be upgraded for sure. My 6S plus is the best iPhone I have ever owned. Everything is perfect imo. Yh I probs wait for the 2017 iPhone too :thumbsup:

 

[Eug]

If I get a 7 series iPhone, I think I might want more RAM than 2 GB. 2 GB is fine, but I want more.

I wonder if Apple will release a 2 GB 7 and a 3 or 4 GB 7 Plus. The 7 Plus would also be good for my crappy eyes, but I was playing with my colleagues' 6 Plus again the other day and it really is huge. Nice for two handed use but it's not very comfortable in my pockets. She says she never puts it in her pocket because it's too big. Only in her purse. I don't think I want to start carrying a manpurse around.

I want to wait for the iPhone 2017, but I really want to upgrade this iPhone 5S too. So maybe if the iPhone 7 gets saddled with 2 GB RAM again, I'll just buy a 6s Plus for the time being and upgrade again in 2018.

The wildcard here is the new camera.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I have a 6S. I'll wait for the 7s or the 8.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Apple really need to move to oled. Compared to my Galaxy S7, my wifes Iphone just looks so washed out and faded in comparison.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Apple really need to move to oled. Compared to my Galaxy S7, my wifes Iphone just looks so washed out and faded in comparison.

Galaxy devices have always had oversaturated colors though so I can see why you would say that. You're not wrong to say you think it looks better, to most people it does which is why Samsung uses it as default and puts the option that is closer to a calibrated display in the options. At least my old S5 had an option that was closer to D6500.

 

[Eug]

OLED doesn't have to look off but it's just that most Android devices aren't calibrated well. If Apple went OLED, then they spend a lot more time making sure it's decently calibrated.

But that won't likely happen until 2017 at the earliest.

However, if I had to choose, I'd take sapphire over OLED, but only if sapphire wasn't overly brittle. I don't usually drop my phones, but these days with two little kids around, things happen.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I was only speaking about Samsung specifically because I know their default values are pretty heavily saturated and bright to look impressive at first glance. The s5 I had could be set to a more calibrated setting that was very good. I assume new models have a similar mode available too but I haven't used anything newer.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Even when using the Note 3's less saturated setting OLED still blows away LCD so much that I will not buy another device or display without OLED (or comparable or better tech). I was very disappointed when I went with the LG V10 and even its supposedly good LCD just doesn't hold a candle.

I really want to switch to an iPhone but no OLED is a dealbreaker to me.

 

[darkswordsman17]

So you want bigger than a 5.5" screen? What exactly do you think you can tell about a phone's technology by looking at half a shell?




Yeah right. Use some Google to look at color gamut and accuracy on the iPhone 6s versus Samsung anything.

Use some Google? WTF? Your argument is nonsense as it doesn't take into account use. Use it in anything but direct sunlight and OLED is easily right there with LCD in color accuracy, and if its somewhat dark OLED completely obliterates LCD. And its not just dark aspects, color in general just looks more realistic, almost adds another level of dimensionality. Just because you might hate the poorly calibrated cheaper AMOLED or the oversaturated default Samsung settings doesn't make OLED junk.

Plus, color accuracy on a phone (other than the camera) is such a total farce that I can't even believe anyone touts it. I could see if it things were way off, but if you're trying to discern anything based on accurate color on a phone then you're just being ridiculous as it will still not be accurate in any professional sense where that will actually matter, and where you are viewing will have a major impact on color accuracy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well for me when I look at pictures or videos on my phone I would like them to be close to d6500 white point if at all possible. I do like to have accuracy myself.

 

[Commodus]

Use some Google? WTF? Your argument is nonsense as it doesn't take into account use. Use it in anything but direct sunlight and OLED is easily right there with LCD in color accuracy, and if its somewhat dark OLED completely obliterates LCD. And its not just dark aspects, color in general just looks more realistic, almost adds another level of dimensionality. Just because you might hate the poorly calibrated cheaper AMOLED or the oversaturated default Samsung settings doesn't make OLED junk.

Plus, color accuracy on a phone (other than the camera) is such a total farce that I can't even believe anyone touts it. I could see if it things were way off, but if you're trying to discern anything based on accurate color on a phone then you're just being ridiculous as it will still not be accurate in any professional sense where that will actually matter, and where you are viewing will have a major impact on color accuracy.

OLED has only just recently (within the past 1-2 years) approached LCD in terms of colour accuracy, so I wouldn't fault Apple or others for steering clear of it for a while. It's no doubt on the Watch in part because accuracy doesn't really matter there so much as black levels.

And yes, accuracy matters on a phone. Like cmdrdredd noted, it's good to know if the photo you just took is true to life, or if the project proofs a coworker just sent are reasonably on the mark. We don't need perfect colours yet, but "reasonably close" is a good target.

 

[RichieZ]

looks terrible. i have had every generation iPhone and I will most likely not buy an iPhone 7 to replace my 6S (which is acutally worse than the 6 in few ways and 3D touch is useless). No compelling features + loss of headphone jack = no buy

 

[RampantAndroid]

looks terrible. i have had every generation iPhone and I will most likely not buy an iPhone 7 to replace my 6S (which is acutally worse than the 6 in few ways and 3D touch is useless). No compelling features + loss of headphone jack = no buy

I use 3D touch a fair bit. Great for moving the cursor while typing or for calling my wife in a single "tap".

 

[ultimatebob]

I'll need a cheap Lightning to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter before I'd buy this. My older cars do not have a USB jack for connecting the phone, and I like to use my iPhone for listening to podcasts.

 

[Tyranicus]

looks terrible. i have had every generation iPhone and I will most likely not buy an iPhone 7 to replace my 6S (which is acutally worse than the 6 in few ways and 3D touch is useless). No compelling features + loss of headphone jack = no buy

Alright. I'll bite, in what ways is the 6S worse than the 6?

 

[RichieZ]

Alright. I'll bite, in what ways is the 6S worse than the 6?

• it is noticeably heavier and doesn't have the same balance in my hand.
• due to 3d touch its hard to long press, for example if I want to delete an app from the homepage i have to give a light press and hold it - stronger pressure will trigger 3d touch.
• I used to click the home button to see the notifications screen, now touch ID is so fast that it unlocks the phone immediately (technically this is a feature)

by far the 6S was the weakest update, but the 7 seems to be even worse:
3G - 3G data!
3GS - it was SO much faster
4 - retina!
4S - camera! siri kind of cool too
5 - LTE!
5S - touch id
6 - new form factor, apple pay!
6S - 3d touch (pretty lame)
7 - no headphone jack, same basic physical design. best camera really only on 7+ Pro(?)

 

[NEDM64]

Use some Google? WTF?

Well, at least LCD's don't have the same problem of Samsung OLEDs that still burn in...

Apple should move to OLED after they fix that.