iPhone 7

[darkswordsman17]

Well for me when I look at pictures or videos on my phone I would like them to be close to d6500 white point if at all possible. I do like to have accuracy myself.

And there's nothing preventing OLEDs from doing that, as we've seen with Samsung's OLED panels the past few years.

Simply put, if you dismiss Samsung OLED based on color accuracy you're being actively dishonest and don't know what you're talking about. (I'm not saying you're doing that.)

OLED has only just recently (within the past 1-2 years) approached LCD in terms of colour accuracy, so I wouldn't fault Apple or others for steering clear of it for a while. It's no doubt on the Watch in part because accuracy doesn't really matter there so much as black levels.

And yes, accuracy matters on a phone. Like cmdrdredd noted, it's good to know if the photo you just took is true to life, or if the project proofs a coworker just sent are reasonably on the mark. We don't need perfect colours yet, but "reasonably close" is a good target.

You can't have it both ways. You can't claim accuracy matters and then say "well within reason" and then act like Apple's LCD offers that but Samsung's OLED doesn't. If that's all you're aiming for (which by the way, that's exactly the point I was making, I just said its a farcical argument in that people dismiss OLED for it but ignore the fact that smartphones especially in typical use are not going to offer the color accuracy that people claim they need) then OLED has offered that for several years now (IIRC even the Note 3 and S4 would be good enough for your estimation, you would have to put it in the correct mode, but it absolutely was possible). And like I said, you're completely dismissing environment use and if you think your LCD is being more accurate most of the time I'd wager that you're just simply wrong about that. Just look at the iPad Pro, its clear that Apple even clearly understands how much the environment you're in affects color accuracy and wants to work to address that.

As is Samsung:
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm

We'll see how the iPhone 7 matches up there.

I actually love Apple's focus on quality and accuracy and am glad that Samsung has taken it to heart (likely in attempt to win production for iPhone/Apple displays), but OLED really is about to eclipse LCD. It still offers all the things that wow people but is also offering the accuracy and quality that people are getting out of high-end LCDs (and don't forget that, use non-Apple stuff and you'll find their quality and accuracy is quite wonky and all over the place). With Apple pushing it, OLED will only get even better.

Well, at least LCD's don't have the same problem of Samsung OLEDs that still burn in...

Apple should move to OLED after they fix that.

Actually there are plenty of LCDs that do exhibit burn-in, including those in iPhones:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6595680?start=0&tstart=0

Now it is true that OLED does exhibit it worse than LCD, so that's a fair point, but its hardly every screen that suffers from it. (My Note 3 for instance never had burn-in).

 

[Commodus]

You can't have it both ways. You can't claim accuracy matters and then say "well within reason" and then act like Apple's LCD offers that but Samsung's OLED doesn't. If that's all you're aiming for (which by the way, that's exactly the point I was making, I just said its a farcical argument in that people dismiss OLED for it but ignore the fact that smartphones especially in typical use are not going to offer the color accuracy that people claim they need) then OLED has offered that for several years now (IIRC even the Note 3 and S4 would be good enough for your estimation, you would have to put it in the correct mode, but it absolutely was possible). And like I said, you're completely dismissing environment use and if you think your LCD is being more accurate most of the time I'd wager that you're just simply wrong about that. Just look at the iPad Pro, its clear that Apple even clearly understands how much the environment you're in affects color accuracy and wants to work to address that.

As is Samsung:
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm

We'll see how the iPhone 7 matches up there.

I actually love Apple's focus on quality and accuracy and am glad that Samsung has taken it to heart (likely in attempt to win production for iPhone/Apple displays), but OLED really is about to eclipse LCD. It still offers all the things that wow people but is also offering the accuracy and quality that people are getting out of high-end LCDs (and don't forget that, use non-Apple stuff and you'll find their quality and accuracy is quite wonky and all over the place). With Apple pushing it, OLED will only get even better.

What I'm getting at is that you should strive for accuracy, but that there isn't as much need for completely flawless reproduction as there is on a computer. My beef with Samsung now isn't that its OLEDs can't be accurate (they most certainly can, especially on the Galaxy Note 7), but that its default still tends to be that exaggerated looks-good-in-the-store setting rather than the accurate option.

And yes, OLED is definitely at a turning point. I'd really like to see how the 2017 iPhone (assuming it does use OLED) handles the technology, since Apple has a habit of designing its software around its technology -- I wouldn't be surprised if iOS 11 has a new look that takes advantage of true blacks and higher contrast.

 

[Eug]

 

[Fingolfin269]

I'm actually starting to believe this headphone jack removal debacle is really going to happen. I need a new phone and really want an iPhone but this is ridiculous. I don't want a freaking dongle just to use headphones. Just venting.

 

[Eug]

Very high rez shot

However, they're probably bogus, given the model numbers.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Doesn't have the dual flash either.

 

[TheStu]

Doesn't have the dual flash either.

The 6 and 6s have the dual flash in a single round package, just as is pictured there.

 

[RampantAndroid]

The 6 and 6s have the dual flash in a single round package, just as is pictured there.

Yes, however you can see a color difference. The top is yellow, the bottom a rose gold color. On the pictured unit above, it isn't dual color flash. Reference: my 6S+

 

[Eug]

Mac Otakara (which has proven relatively reliable in the past) states there is a iPhone 7 and an iPhone 7 Plus. There is no iPhone 7 Pro. No headphone jack on either of them. Capacitive home button on both.

http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/rumor/entry-30511.html

It doesn't specifically say the the Plus will get a dual-lens design, but they say the camera performance will be greatly improved, so the rumours that the Plus will get that dual-lens design still make sense.

Memory was not mentioned, but I'm also very interested in whether or not it gets more memory. I'm expecting 2 GB RAM, but I want 3-4 GB. Had it not been for the rumours of 3 GB, what I might have predicted is 2 GB RAM for the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, and then 4 GB RAM with the new iPhone in 2017.

I'm still on the fence about getting a new iPhone, but having more than 2 GB RAM would make the decision easy. I'm not optimistic for more than 2 GB RAM though since even the 2016 9.7" iPad Pro only has 2 GB. Lame for a so-called "Pro" design, especially since my iPad Air 2 - a non-Pro iDevice - has 2 GB, and I bought that way back in 2014.

Maybe I'll pre-order the Plus and then wait until the spec leaks come out before opening the box.

The other feature I'd like to see is USB 3 support with increased data transfer speeds and faster charging, like the 12.9" iPad Pro (which also has 4 GB RAM by the way).

 

[slashbinslashbash]

• I used to click the home button to see the notifications screen, now touch ID is so fast that it unlocks the phone immediately (technically this is a feature)

I've gotten used to pressing the Home button with my fingernail, or with a non-registered finger (ring finger, etc.) when I want to pull up notifications.

 

[Soccerman06]

Looks like theres a chance the 7s will drop the home button (maybe)

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/08...tch-the-home-button-to-kill-its-giant-bezels/

 

[Commodus]

Looks like theres a chance the 7s will drop the home button (maybe)

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/08...tch-the-home-button-to-kill-its-giant-bezels/

That rumour's been floating around before, from similarly credible sources. The gist seems to be that the iPhone 8 (there may not be a 7s) will be Apple's opportunity to reinvent the wheel, to change the definition of what an iPhone is. No physical home button, OLED display... you name it.

 

[lopri]

Very high rez shot

However, they're probably bogus, given the model numbers.

I hope so. Those are fugly and uninspiring. lol

Edit: Did they not get rid of those regulatory markings on the back of the phone?

 

[Kaido]

Bought an iPhone 5 SE recently. Only disappointed with lack of 128/256gb storage option. I fill up 64 gigs pretty quickly. Will be interesting to see what they do for the "small phone" segment in coming years.

Really like the size. Only upgraded because I broke my 5S

 

[Eug]

 

[Pheran]

I'm definitely upgrading from my ancient 4S this year, but it will probably be to a 6S, because screw this no headphone jack nonsense. At least the 6S should see a price drop once the 7 is released.

 

[Tweak155]

I have a friend that wants to upgrade to the iPhone 7 as soon as it is released... said he'd give me his 64gb 6s for the remainder payments ($400ish range)... seems like a good option. If the iPhone 7 doesn't blow me out of the water I may just take him up on it.

 

[Eug]

I'm definitely upgrading from my ancient 4S this year, but it will probably be to a 6S, because screw this no headphone jack nonsense. At least the 6S should see a price drop once the 7 is released.

Impressive that you could wait that long. The 4S is very slow with iOS 9. Plus I find with my iPhone 4 that the screen size has become extremely limiting, since mobile sites just aren't built for 3.5" phones anymore. I know the width the same as the iPhone 5/5S, but still, there is a noticeable difference in usability on some sites now. In fact, I find that even the iPhone 5/5S has become problematic, as IMO it seems some web designers are building sites with 4.7" to 5.x" phones in mind.

BTW, here are the rumoured iPhone 7 and 7 Plus specs:

iPhone 7:
1960 mAh battery, which represents a 1/7th (14%) increase over the 1715 mAh of the 6s.
12 MP camera, but with 1/2.6" sensor, a noticeable increase over the 1/3" sensor of the 6s.
1.22 um pixels, vs. the 1.3 um pixels of the 6s.
f/1.9, a significant increase over the f/2.2 of the 6s.

iPhone 7 Plus
2910 mAh battery, which is just a slight (6%) increase over the 2750 mAh of the 6s Plus.
12 MP camera, but two of them. However, both sensors are still 1/3".
f/1.9, which like the iPhone 7 is an increase over the f/2.2 of the 6s Plus.
3 GB RAM, which is a huge 50% increase over the 2 GB RAM of the iPhone 6s Plus and iPhone 7.

I will likely pre-order the iPhone 7 Plus, and if the 3 GB RAM is confirmed I will keep it. That's probably the biggest spec boost overall, even more important than the new camera. That would put it ahead of the current 9.7" iPad Pro in fact. And if it does happen, it would mean that the memory amount tripled in 2 years: 1 GB iPhone 6 Plus --> 2 GB iPhone 6s Plus --> 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus.

There was no mention of storage sizes, but my guess (in line with other predictions) is that these phones will start with 32 GB, with 128 GB and 256 GB options. For me 64 GB would be fine, but I would probably get 128 GB if 64 GB isn't an option.

In addition, trademark filings indicate that the model numbers will include A1778 and A1784. Also, the name "AirPods" was trademarked.

 

[Pheran]

Impressive that you could wait that long. The 4S is very slow with iOS 9. Plus I find with my iPhone 4 that the screen size has become extremely limiting, since mobile sites just aren't built for 3.5" phones anymore. I know the width the same as the iPhone 5/5S, but still, there is a noticeable difference in usability on some sites now. In fact, I find that even the iPhone 5/5S has become problematic, as IMO it seems some web designers are building sites with 4.7" to 5.x" phones in mind.

I agree that the 4S is painful to use now. I was planning to upgrade last year, but an unexpected expense came up at that time that prevented me from getting a new phone.

 

[lopri]

I looked at the mock-up iPhone 7/Plus picture more closely and they look fake. The fonts ("iPhone") are different in that its thicker on the regular iPhone, and the rings around camera hump also appear different.

 

[TheStu]

I looked at the mock-up iPhone 7/Plus picture more closely and they look fake. The fonts ("iPhone") are different in that its thicker on the regular iPhone, and the rings around camera hump also appear different.

Well, we'll know in about a week one way or another. My 6s is still plenty fast, and should be for another year. There are a couple of things that could sway me, but I haven't heard too many rumors in those directions.

 

[purbeast0]

For development purposes, I really hope they don't change the screen resolution.

 

[Soccerman06]

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/iphone-7-plus-256go-etiquette-115154/

seems like 256gb is an option

 

[Eug]

This article is a decent one at summarizing what I had been theorizing about that invitation's background image:

Apple's iPhone 7 event invite hints at shallow depth of field chops

We already know the iPhone 7 Plus will probably sport two rear cameras, but it wasn’t totally clear how it would be using them – even though we know pretty much all the specs. It could have taken the LG approach of featuring two different focal lengths, for instance, but instead Apple seems to be working more along the lines ofHuawei/Honor, using the second camera for artificial depth of field.

Notice all the colorful little circles? Photographers call that ‘bokeh,’ a Japanese word for the way a lens renders out of focus points of light and highlights.

Actually, that's not quite correct, but close enough. Those background highlights aren't bokeh. Bokeh refers to the quality of those background highlights, etc. A lens with nice bokeh would have smooth background blur, whereas one with poor bokeh would have a harsher looking background.

This would be good bokeh:

This would be not so good bokeh:

It would be awesome if the iPhone 7 Plus in certain situations could focus the background way out of focus with a wide aperture with one lens, and focus the foreground subject appropriately with the other lens. Depending on the characteristics of the lenses, it might be possible to sort of replicate the good bokeh for portraits, something you can't do right now with an iPhone.

It still wouldn't be anywhere near as a good SLR with a nice portrait lens in most instances, but it would still be a vast improvement over current iPhone cameras.

This alone would almost be enough for me to buy the iPhone 7 Plus, and if it had 3 GB RAM, that would clinch it. I wonder if more memory might be necessary to do all this stuff actually.

 

[StinkyPinky]

I get the feeling that since they aren't doing a design change or pushing the specs much this time, they may really focus on improving the camera and battery life. We shall see soon i guess. The lack of a headphone jack is crazy though.