Me either.
People forget that Apple mostly replaced Blackberry as "the business phone." The 16GB model isn't enough for a personal phone, but for a business phone you shouldn't be installing the next great game or taking a bunch of pictures. If you just need a phone that can run iOS, get email and run the one app your business needs 16GB is fine.
I actually don't mind Apple being stingy about the storage because you can upgrade it by paying more. What drives me nuts is when they save a buck to cut down something that IS needed and there is no way to pay to get more, like 1GB of RAM in all 2014 iPhones or the crappy screen on the current iPhone 6s. If you could pay an extra $100 to get a 6S with a 1080p AMOLED screen I would own that phone right now. Or if the iPad Pro 9.7 could get a 4GB of RAM upgrade my iPad Air 2 would be on Ebay right now.
Maybe some companies, but not all. IPhones are expensive and only go to certain executives at my company. The rest of us still get BBs or now windows phones.
Hit the nail on the head for what I was coming in to post. While it wouldn't hurt us if they went to a 32gb base for the same price as the 16gb, at work we order 16gb phones and they are more than adequate for 99% of our users. They're used to store contacts, connect to email and make calls.
In other words, consumers.The only people it would help are those who want more than 16GB storage but don't want to pay the extra to upgrade to a larger storage phone.
In other words, consumers.
The way fans will defend Apple's use of any consumer-unfriendly practice at all would make sense if their life savings were in Apple stock... but I doubt it.
I'm a consumer and I don't mind paying more to get a product that meets my needs better than the cheaper option. If you don't want to pay more, be prepared to compromise on your requirements. It's called capitalism.
Maybe some companies, but not all. IPhones are expensive and only go to certain executives at my company. The rest of us still get BBs or now windows phones.
Maybe instead of a Note4, I should have paid $300 more to get the equivalent storage on an iphone so I could get in on the fun. :\
Also because Google ate their lunch on the education side.Maybe but remember Apple is targeting its mobile products towards businesses (iPad Pro) as the consumer side saturates.
Apple fans are interesting. Most others think people bragging about paying more than they should are pretentious or shallow, but they just don't see it.
Maybe instead of a Note4, I should have paid $300 more to get the equivalent storage on an iphone so I could get in on the fun. :\
In fact, I bet the SE is not as strong, case-wise as the 5. Maybe the next round of 'bend' gate is coming.
Arggh. On contract, my carrier has priced the iPhone SE higher than the iPhone 6.
Maybe but remember Apple is targeting its mobile products towards businesses (iPad Pro) as the consumer side saturates.
Apple didn't have a 2014 phablet equal to the Note 4 at any price (well, unless you count the LTE iPad Air 2 as a phone).
Maybe but remember Apple is targeting its mobile products towards businesses (iPad Pro) as the consumer side saturates.
I thought the 6+ had a 128 gig version at the end of 2014? Was close to a grand IIRC.
Yeah, but my point was the Note 4 was better than any 6+.
The 2014 iPhone 6+ is already dated with its 1GB of RAM, even the iPhone SE provides a better app experience. It has probably aged worse than any iPhone in history, and should go down as the biggest cash grab ("look! it's a big iPhone! it must be good!") in mobile history when the dust settles.
Meanwhile the Note 4 with its 3 gigs of RAM, VR headset and a quadHD AMOLED screen is still ahead of the iPhone 6+S in many ways.
It's just a shame it has Android and not iOS!
No is denying that Samsung have the design chops when it comes to hardware. It's just their software that keeps letting them down.
Nothing but what Apple makes will ever run iOS. That is a big reason why I will never lock myself into iOS, because their yearly upgrade cycle plus random dud generations (like the 2014 generation) means you have to wait over a year sometimes just to get an iPhone worth buying. Meanwhile everyone who didn't like the Note 5 had the option of the 6P without any real downside.
Honestly I still think Apple has some of the best hardware in the business. The iPad Air 2- from SoC to form factor to screen- was far beyond anything Android had in 2014 or 2015. Their custom CPUs are amazing and they sometimes bring in real innovation (like the fingerprint reader).
The problem is they know they are the king of phones, and they know thanks to iOS there is a moat around the iPhones that keeps them from actually having to compete. So we get phones in 2013 that are 4 inches big, in 2014 we get phones that have 1GB of ram, and in 2015 we get phones with a ridiculously low PPI and crazy huge bezels compared to any other major smartphone maker.
I hold out hope that the iPhone 7 is finally an iPhone that feels caught up to the competition, but at the same time I feel confident there will be SOMETHING that is a trivial cost/problem in the device for the world's richest company that all iPhone 7 users will have to deal with because that is how Apple rolls.
I don't care how nice iOS is (and I don't like it as much as Android personally, no amount of slickness can overcome a lack of a file manager and having to use Safari), I don't think it's worth the cost to lock yourself to it.
I don't actually mind phones starting at 16 GB. What I do mind is the cost. At the costs of the flagship iPhones, they should start at 32 GB.
OTOH, the iPhone SE is their new "low end" phone, so 16 GB makes sense. At least don't have an 8 GB version like we did with the 5C.
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P.S. Here's an iPhone SE teardown.
https://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/apple-iphone-se-teardown
When I'm buying a device, I want the best I can get that runs iOS
I was here in 2014 arguing over and over that the 1GB of ram was a dealbreaker, and I got told time and time again by iPhone fans that "iOS doesn't need as much RAM." And now here we are in 2016 and everyone praises the iPhone SE getting two gigs because the RAM pressure created by applications is OBVIOUS today. Well it was obvious for me too way back in 2014, I said so on this very forum. People just didn't want to listen.
Android fans are happy to be critical of Android, sometimes overly so. But the street doesn't run both ways thanks to the iOS moat and the cognitive dissonance it creates. I am just happy with the SE Apple did deliver a lot of value to those wanting a small smartphone, it is probably the best iPhone "deal" ever.
People are sheep, iOS DOES NOT need 2 gigs, is it nice? sure, is it needed? no. I am an uber power user and my iP6+ FLIES for everything I do. I'll be buying an iPhone 7, and I'd buy it even if Apple was still on 1 gig. I haven't came across a situation where my 1 gig iPhone wasn't faster than my 3 gig 2015 flagship Android phone. MAYBE there will be some apps released later this year, or next year that need it. But as it stands, 1 gig does me perfect. And I do a lot on my phone. I'm very critical of Apple, but memory isn't one of the things I'd knock them for. IMHO the iPhone 6+ is the best phone I've ever owned, and I've owned I dunno 30 different smart phones.
Fixed that for you. Which is fine, everyone has different priorities. I wouldn't be so arrogant to say Android is the best for everyone.
I just get upset when people whose only consideration set is "devices that run iOS" try to pretend that EVERY new product Apple releases is the best in its category. I mean, sometimes Apple does have the best product- the iPhone SE is easily the best four inch phone on the market. But sometimes Apple releases a product like the iPhone 6+ 2014 that is WAY behind the competition and many iPhone fans refuse to face the reality of that situation.
I was here in 2014 arguing over and over that the 1GB of ram was a dealbreaker, and I got told time and time again by iPhone fans that "iOS doesn't need as much RAM." And now here we are in 2016 and everyone praises the iPhone SE getting two gigs because the RAM pressure created by applications is OBVIOUS today. Well it was obvious for me too way back in 2014, I said so on this very forum. People just didn't want to listen.
If Apple fans were willing to stand up and say "Yes the iPad 3 was crap. Yes the iPhone 6+ was a way to milk people desperate for a large iPhone. Yes circular smartwatches look a hell of a lot better and more natural than square ones" then I wouldn't have any complaints. But that is not what we get, we get tons of people defending each and every product Apple makes because they themselves are going to buy them because the alternative is waiting a year plus for a product in the category worth buying.
Android fans are happy to be critical of Android, sometimes overly so. But the street doesn't run both ways thanks to the iOS moat and the cognitive dissonance it creates. I am just happy with the SE Apple did deliver a lot of value to those wanting a small smartphone, it is probably the best iPhone "deal" ever.
The issue I have here is that you're basically the other side of the same coin: you're making hyperbolic assessments of Apple's products and suggesting that fans who disagree are simply towing the company line. The truth, as with most things, is somewhere in between.
You know why some people are complimenting Apple for stuffing 2GB into the iPhone SE? Because Apple is giving its lowest-end phone the same kind of treatment as its flagships, not because it's an acknowledgment of some tragic mistake from 2014.
But with iOS already running into RAM limitations just running a single intensive app on 1GB devices...Safari is an app that quite frankly does not work incredibly well on any iPad except for the Air 2...As you can see, the Safari process and all its tabs ends up using a whopping 728.12MB of RAM....many third party applications can be very complex. You could be handling very large images, or drawing complicated 3D scenes. Naturally, these applications will require more memory to keep all of the assets that theyre working with accessible.
Giving an iPhone or iPad more RAM doesn't necessarily speed up general performance, but it does mean that apps and browser tabs need to be ejected from memory less often. Today this is particularly beneficial in Safari, which needs to reload tabs when they're ejected from RAMat best this process adds a couple of extra seconds to what ought to be a simple tab switch, and at worst you don't have connectivity and so can't see the tab you're trying to open.