iPhone vs Android. Any objective comparison from 2014+ ?

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ultimatebob

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I've found my iPhones to be more reliable over the lifetime of the phone. My Android phones started out great, but inevitably got a bad firmware update pushed to them that added additional bloatware and/or screwed things up.

If you're going to get an Android phone, get something from the Nexus line. Otherwise, you'll eventually regret it.
 

dawheat

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I'll take those bonus points thanks since you can 3D touch swipe from left to right to go back to the previous app. Back buttons on Android devices tend to be very inconveniently placed as they are often very low on the device. The Galaxy S6+ is a good example of a very badly placed back button (and multitasking button).

Plus there's the guesswork required to know where your Android device will actually take you back to; will it go back to the previous screen in the app you are currently in, or back to the previous app, or even just make the keyboard vanish from the screen? Who knows. Very poor and inconsistent user experience.
Eh not a very strong response when only a small minority of iOS devices have 3d touch. Also not sure what you mean about inconvenient since I can always thumb the back button on my Note 5. Most android phones have it on the left which is even closer.

Back behavior has gotten a lot better in android. I'll give you that a couple years ago it was quite random but these days it seems quite consistent in being -1 step. Keyboard up? Closes keyboard but keeps you where you are. Page or app up? Takes you back one screen. Last page was a different app? Takes you to that app. Finally takes you to home. It took several years to get there but it all works well these days.

Frankly I'm not even trying to say one is greatly superior to the other like you, simply that I think in thus one particular area Android works better for me.
 

Ksyder

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Also, the Moto X Pure does not have a fingerprint sensor, which immediately makes it a non-option for me. It also does not even have Marshmallow and still runs on Lollipop.


Marshmallow has been on the Moto X Pure for at least a few months now.
 

mrochester

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Eh not a very strong response when only a small minority of iOS devices have 3d touch. Also not sure what you mean about inconvenient since I can always thumb the back button on my Note 5. Most android phones have it on the left which is even closer.

Back behavior has gotten a lot better in android. I'll give you that a couple years ago it was quite random but these days it seems quite consistent in being -1 step. Keyboard up? Closes keyboard but keeps you where you are. Page or app up? Takes you back one screen. Last page was a different app? Takes you to that app. Finally takes you to home. It took several years to get there but it all works well these days.

Frankly I'm not even trying to say one is greatly superior to the other like you, simply that I think in thus one particular area Android works better for me.

Well I think it's clear you weren't aware you could do that on the iPhone; it's worth being knowledgable about these things to make a proper judgement.

And your description of what Android does when you press the back button is precisely what is wrong with the back button. It shouldn't do different things like that. The back button should take you one step back in the app you are currently in. The multitasking button should take you to the task switcher to switch back to a previous app and the home button should take you to the home screen. There's no need for the back button to do anything more than go a step back in the current app but they've complicated it by making it do different things depending on context, which you then have to remember. It's a user experience design flaw as it currently stands.

I'm quite happy to say which one has a better implementation than the other because I have knowledge of how they both work and have made an assessment and know which one is better.
 

gorcorps

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To answer your title... no

There simply isn't a good source of objective reviews IMO. Everybody who has used smartphones has a bias, even if they won't openly admit or even realize it. You need to find somebody who holed up in a bomb shelter during the cold war and are just now getting out. Then give them both an iPhone and a top of the line Android phone and see which one they like. That's the only way you'll get an unbiased "objective" opinion.

In my eyes you can't really go wrong either way. Both have strengths and both have issues, all of which have been discussed to death. You just have to match up your demands with their strengths to find which is best for you.
 

88keys

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I've had an iPhone 3GS back in the day, a Droid X2, Samsung Galaxy S4, and now more recently an iPhone 6s.

The Droid X2 was a POS, but I really liked my Galaxy S4, was a great phone except that I really got tired of quirks and bugs and broken updates and my next plan was to get a Nexus but when apple decided to move toward bigger screens; I figured I'd give them a try.

My iPhone 6 is all around the best smartphone I've used so far. Very fast, camera takes nice photos, app selection is great. And honestly that really where iOS shines in in the quality of apps. Yeah you pay for them, but they work and work well which is what I want. That and there Android just doesn't have anything that manages music as well as iTunes.
 

sm625

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I'm using a somewhat ancient LG G2 and have no desire to upgrade. The only disappointment really is the speaker volume. This is basically from the same exact era as a 5S, but I cant imagine a 5S feeling "slower" or aging worse, but it is possible given the RAM. The problem that makes the 5S seem outdated is probably the display.
 
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pcslookout

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I'm using a somewhat ancient LG G2 and have no desire to upgrade. The only disappointment really is the speaker volume. This is basically from the same exact era as a 5S, but I cant imagine a 5S feeling "slower" or aging worse, but it is possible given the RAM. The problem that makes the 5S seem outdated is probably the display.

I felt the same way about my LG G2 before it started giving me problems.

Now with the iPhone 6s Plus I like it and the speaker volume is loud enough but the vibration is to low.
 

GoodEnough

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What problems did your G2 start to give you?
My screen started to flicker, but it was still perfectly workable.
I could have kept using it, but decided to blow some cash on a new toy.
 

blankslate

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Ok, it sounds like the 2014 iPhone 6 is still good and modern.

I would steer you to the iphone 6s and not the one released in 2014.

You could get by on 1 gig of ram but imho that is a shameful amount for a flagship phone. the 16 GB storage on a base model is rather bad as well.

Some may say that the bendgate in 2014 was a non issue but why did Apple upgrade the material to something 2 times as strong for the new 6s if it was really a non-issue?

the S models of iPhones fix issues with the original model of a new iPhone generation. If I somehow decided that iOS was better and started using Apple phones I personally wouldn't get a 6 or 6 plus, I'd get the 6s or 6s plus


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poofyhairguy

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I would steer you to the iphone 6s and not the one released in 2014.

You could get by on 1 gig of ram but imho that is a shameful amount for a flagship phone. the 16 GB storage on a base model is rather bad as well.

Some may say that the bendgate in 2014 was a non issue but why did Apple upgrade the material to something 2 times as strong for the new 6s if it was really a non-issue?

the S models of iPhones fix issues with the original model of a new iPhone generation. If I somehow decided that iOS was better and started using Apple phones I personally wouldn't get a 6 or 6 plus, I'd get the 6s or 6s plus

Amen to all of that. The 2014 iPhones (especially the Plus) were shameful.
 
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You wrote this:


As a generalisation it's clearly incorrect. My phone gives me 4-6 days battery life as it always has done. The smartphone that I upgraded from is a year older than my N5 and my mother gets about 8 days of battery life out of it.

Li-ion does suffer from decreased battery life over a long-enough period of usage / charging cycles, but it's a clear case of YMMV. Stop making silly generalisations; I'm sure there are plenty of other people on this forum with two-year-old phones that aren't in desperate need of battery replacement.

Also, in case you misunderstood, my "what do you mean" comment was directed at someone else, beneath the quote I was responding to.

Goodness gracious, 4 days of battery life? Please share your secrets.
 

razel

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One is not better than the other. It's pointless to compare since the hardware (phones) and software (OS) get refreshed every year and things change. Just go with whatever ecosystem suits your lifestyle best.

If you love technology, you'll definitely want to play with both so choose accordingly. I have an Android phone + iPad. Family members have iPad and Kindle. Some of them have Android phones. They don't work together seamlessly, but they aren't suppose to and they know their way around it. They just want to stay in contact and share photos. Fortunately Facebook, Instagram are taking care of connecting that.

It's your choice to choose, be glad that you can. By the way, I usually tell people to Google such questions, but in this case YouTube is the best place for you to get more opinions about this... Remember, the keyword is opinion. There are facts there, but it's still 80% opinion.
 

nerp

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Why not? "3D Touch" or whatever Apple calls Force touch does different things depending on the app as well.

From my experience it's always very logical. Press on the camera button and you see options appear "take picture, take video take HD video.....press harder and the full camera app opens." One push in an app gives you a preview, push harder and it pops into the image/email/whatever. I've found that apps that support it (and surprisingly a ton already do and more do daily) the implementation generally makes sense within the context. It also leads one to start thinking about how it could be implemented on computer touchpads. . . in games. Pretty cool to have a gas pedal that can be floored with some extra oomph, or the difference between a jab and an uppercut. I find that I'm able to skip steps and hop right into what I want more often and spend less time worry about back buttons and layouts and more time accomplishing what I wanted to do in the first place.
 

nerp

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LOL WHAT

autocorrect is fing HORRID on the iphones

it pretty horrid on Android as well but its worse on apple

I wouldn't call it horrid, but it's not bad. It's better than stock android. Windows phone dominates all for KB. And MS bought Swiftkey. Hahaha.
 
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I wouldn't call it horrid, but it's not bad. It's better than stock android. Windows phone dominates all for KB. And MS bought Swiftkey. Hahaha.
Personally I think iOS' keyboard is far better in terms of auto-correct. It wasn't until recently that Android's own keyboard could auto-correct efficiently when you misspell something with a different # of characters.

I posted a year back about how auto-correct of "accomodate" would fail to correct to "accommodate" because the # of letters didn't match up. I could type with my eyes closed on an iOS keyboard for instance; no such luck on Android. For the record I own both devices.

Also, what's more frustrating recently is with larger devices, Google Keyboard wasn't designed with that in mind. The scaling of the vertical keys makes it harder and harder to tap. I posted about this a while ago too.

 

poofyhairguy

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From my experience it's always very logical.

Sure you can figure it out. You are a nerd. I bet you can properly use a right mouse click on a real PC, or even the back button in Android too. You aren't scared to click new buttons in a GUI to figure out what they do, but many people are scared.

If fact what you describe is basically the same functionality you get out of right mouse clicks in many desktop applications, and Steve Jobs pushed hard to get rid of that feature in the Mac ecosystem because he saw it as too complicated for many users to understand.

Point being I don't see any way someone can argue 3D Touch (that is different per application) is easy for "normal" users but the Android back button isn't. Both are inconsistent in what they do, which leads to conclusions like "the computer hates me" for people that don't understand how this stuff works. Steve knew that.
 

Anubis

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Personally I think iOS' keyboard is far better in terms of auto-correct. It wasn't until recently that Android's own keyboard could auto-correct efficiently when you misspell something with a different # of characters.

I posted a year back about how auto-correct of "accomodate" would fail to correct to "accommodate" because the # of letters didn't match up. I could type with my eyes closed on an iOS keyboard for instance; no such luck on Android. For the record I own both devices.

Also, what's more frustrating recently is with larger devices, Google Keyboard wasn't designed with that in mind. The scaling of the vertical keys makes it harder and harder to tap. I posted about this a while ago too.


My Android phone has never done this

http://imgur.com/H56oirn

Ip6s. Just happened to college in middle of a message
 

Obsy

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I felt the same way about my LG G2 before it started giving me problems.



Now with the iPhone 6s Plus I like it and the speaker volume is loud enough but the vibration is to low.

Have you tried changing the vibration pattern of your notifications? By default, the vibration feedback is set to synchronize with the notification sound that's made. I think it's totes amazeballs, but as a result it makes some of the notification tones have a really short and soft vibration (such as the default text tone).
 
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MarkizSchnitzel

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And your description of what Android does when you press the back button is precisely what is wrong with the back button. It shouldn't do different things like that. The back button should take you one step back in the app you are currently in. The multitasking button should take you to the task switcher to switch back to a previous app and the home button should take you to the home screen. There's no need for the back button to do anything more than go a step back in the current app but they've complicated it by making it do different things depending on context, which you then have to remember. It's a user experience design flaw as it currently stands.


So I'm in calendar, I see someone has a birthday, I tap it. It takes me to FB, I leave a message.

Or, share a picture to wherever.

Or click a link in an email/IM.

Etc..

So you think it's better that back button simply stops working and does nothing?

You are thinking in terms of walled apps. Some of us think in terms of workflows. And both are fine. I prefer the way Android/Windows work.

I also much preffered contextual search button in WP. The "always launch bing" way that it does now i complete crap.
 

pcslookout

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Have you tried changing the vibration pattern of your notifications? By default, the vibration feedback is set to synchronize with the notification sound that's made. I think it's totes amazeballs, but as a result it makes some of the notification tones have a really short and soft vibration (such as the default text tone).

Yes.

It helps a little.
 

Hantadasor

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Android--- better for openness, customization, and bang for buck.

Iphone--- better for performance, gaming, and reliability.
 
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