iPhone X pronunciation

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rh71

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Like BMW, Audi, or any of the exotic mfg's?

If you mean codes like E70 or F15, those are internal designations for the projects, which enthusiasts like to throw around so they know which generation they are referring to. BMW still calls it a 2017 BMW (model) and then a 2018 BMW (model) for the public.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If you mean codes like E70 or F15, those are internal designations for the projects, which enthusiasts like to throw around so they don't have to refer to them by year. BMW still calls it a 2017 BMW X5.
Nah, just seemingly arbitrary numerical designations that don't really refer to anything beyond a 'design matrix plus $thing' style, like 'F150, F250, F350' Why is the zero there? Why does the 5 stay the same? Ford doesn't have a F50, a F120, F370, etc, so why even use those numbers? Why not F1, F2, F3?

BMW does maintain a more rational naming (numbering?) convention, with X3, 5, Z series, etc... but it's still a little wonky.

From a BWM series matrix:
E87 1 series (2004 - present) includes 116i, 118i, 120i, 130i, 118d, 120d.
^^wat
E90 3 series (2005 - present)
^^Looking good, just '3 series'
E60 5 series (2003 - present)
^^Still solid, just '5 series' (but what happened to 2 and 4 series? got something against even numbers?
E63 6 series (2003 - present)
^^Oh, there they are. '6 series'
E65 7 series (2001 - present)
F01 7 series (2009-up)

^^Uh oh, now we've got two 7-series?
E90 M3 (2007 - present)
^^Okay, so now we're in the M3 series? Is that like performance model for the 3 series? No M1?
E60 M5 (2005 - present)
E63 M6 (2005 - present)

^^Continuing, I assume?
Z4 M Coupe (2006 - present)
^^wat. Is it an M series? a Z series? Or a different thing?
E83 X3 (2003 - present)
E70 X5 (2007 - present)
X6 – (2007 – present)

^^*twitch*
E85 Z4 (2002 - present) Current US versions are 3.0 and 3.5
^^*vomits*
 

gorcorps

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Apple already has huge brand capital in "X" as in "OS X" so it's absolutely astounding to me they've decided to go with "ten" for the X in the iPhone.

Yeah, makes no sense at all. Why brand it as X if you want people to say "ten"? What's going to happen in a few years if they keep the SKUs they have now... after the "inferior" iphone 9 is updated, is it going to be called iphone 10 or will they change everything before that point?

The iPhone X is effectively their equivalent to the "Note" series like samsung, but instead of two different names (Galaxy and Note) Apple uses two numbers quite close together... one of which is a roman numeral. What the hell? They already have established a "pro" series of ipads, so why this new phone wasn't called the "iphone pro" for consistencies sake is beyond me.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Yeah, makes no sense at all. Why brand it as X if you want people to say "ten"? What's going to happen in a few years if they keep the SKUs they have now... after the "inferior" iphone 9 is updated, is it going to be called iphone 10 or will they change everything before that point?

The iPhone X is effectively their equivalent to the "Note" series like samsung, but instead of two different names (Galaxy and Note) Apple uses two numbers quite close together... one of which is a roman numeral. What the hell? They already have established a "pro" series of ipads, so why this new phone wasn't called the "iphone pro" for consistencies sake is beyond me.
Or 'The Iphone'. Set that precedent with the ipad a while back.

I'd actually be super thrilled if mfg's just started using change management practices for naming conventions, I'd go with a iphone 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, then iphoneTENYEARBRANCH 1.0.
 

gorcorps

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Or 'The Iphone'. Set that precedent with the ipad a while back.

I'd actually be super thrilled if mfg's just started using change management practices for naming conventions, I'd go with a iphone 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, then iphoneTENYEARBRANCH 1.0.

Or just do what automakers do and go by year. "Is that the 2018 iphone? Looks slick"
 

Crono

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So next year they come out with what, the iPhone 9 and iPhone 11? I look forward to the iPhone 9/11 announcement.

Or maybe they just go for the iPhone X-2 (Yuna approved).

(And yes, I realize the X is for the 10th anniversary so it's likely they don't increment the numbering for the name... though it would be hilarious if they called it 10.1)
 
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Aves

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Apple already has huge brand capital in "X" as in "OS X" so it's absolutely astounding to me they've decided to go with "ten" for the X in the iPhone.

Officially "OS X" was supposed to be spoken as "OS Ten" also.
 
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ElFenix

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Nah, just seemingly arbitrary numerical designations that don't really refer to anything beyond a 'design matrix plus $thing' style, like 'F150, F250, F350' Why is the zero there? Why does the 5 stay the same? Ford doesn't have a F50, a F120, F370, etc, so why even use those numbers? Why not F1, F2, F3?

The Wikipedia article on the F series explains some of the names.


Officially "OS X" was supposed to be spoken as "OS Ten" also.

I don't think it was ever marketed that way, though.
 

manly

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I don't think it was ever marketed that way, though.
It was always marketed that way. For Mac OS, X is the Roman numeral ten.

If you mean that Mac OS X releases were advertised with big cat names, then that is correct too. For advertising purposes, a cat name was preferred over "Mac OS X 10.5" which is a bit unwieldy.
Which sort of explains why it's iPhone X instead of say iPhone 10th Anniversary Edition.
 

Crono

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It was always marketed that way. For Mac OS, X is the Roman numeral ten.

If you mean that Mac OS X releases were advertised with big cat names, then that is correct too. For advertising purposes, a cat name was preferred over "Mac OS X 10.5" which is a bit unwieldy.
Which sort of explains why it's iPhone X instead of say iPhone 10th Anniversary Edition.

I would have preferred the iPhone NeXT.
Or shorten it to XT and offer a low cost 'c' version of it, too. iPhone XTc.
 

Red Squirrel

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Where did 10 even come from anyway I thought they were at 6 or 7? And why switch to a roman numerial now? Are they trying to pull off a Microsoft and change naming convention just for shits and giggles?

As for the question I always say "ecks". A guy on the radio here also said the same thing, he was kinda making fun of it actually, he was talking about their app and like "it even works on the new iphone X if you've got a bazillion dollars for that thing!"
 

Crono

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Where did 10 even come from anyway I thought they were at 6 or 7? And why switch to a roman numerial now? Are they trying to pull off a Microsoft and change naming convention just for shits and giggles?

As for the question I always say "ecks". A guy on the radio here also said the same thing, he was kinda making fun of it actually, he was talking about their app and like "it even works on the new iphone X if you've got a bazillion dollars for that thing!"

10th anniversary since the original iPhone launched. And they did keep the sequence for the normal iPhone range (up to 8 now), the 10 is a special edition. Really it's just the prototype flagship for all the changes they have been saving up. Now they are close to parity in features compared to Android flagships for the first time in a while.
 

KentState

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I really don't care because in a year everyone will trade it in for the next iPhone that fixed all the issues. There won't be a point over those 365 that I will need to refer to the specific model and will plainly call it an iPhone. "Hey, did you get the new iPhone?" "Hey, how's the iPhone's facial recognition? " "Does the oled on your iPhone work well?" To that point, I also won't use the word super to describe the screen or FaceID or Animogi.
 

Red Squirrel

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I really don't care because in a year everyone will trade it in for the next iPhone that fixed all the issues. There won't be a point over those 365 that I will need to refer to the specific model and will plainly call it an iPhone. "Hey, did you get the new iPhone?" "Hey, how's the iPhone's facial recognition? " "Does the oled on your iPhone work well?" To that point, I also won't use the word super to describe the screen or FaceID or Animogi.


Lol yeah it's true. I like how people flock over like it's the most shiny awesome thing, but a year later it's not so nice ans shiny anymore eh, they have to get the next one. That's right feed that consumerism machine!

Then again I know people who do that with vehicles. They buy a brand new 4x4 pickup truck and a couple years later they're trading it for the next model.
 

rh71

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Nah, just seemingly arbitrary numerical designations that don't really refer to anything beyond a 'design matrix plus $thing' style, like 'F150, F250, F350' Why is the zero there? Why does the 5 stay the same? Ford doesn't have a F50, a F120, F370, etc, so why even use those numbers? Why not F1, F2, F3?

BMW does maintain a more rational naming (numbering?) convention, with X3, 5, Z series, etc... but it's still a little wonky.

From a BWM series matrix:
E87 1 series (2004 - present) includes 116i, 118i, 120i, 130i, 118d, 120d.
^^wat
E90 3 series (2005 - present)
^^Looking good, just '3 series'
E60 5 series (2003 - present)
^^Still solid, just '5 series' (but what happened to 2 and 4 series? got something against even numbers?
E63 6 series (2003 - present)
^^Oh, there they are. '6 series'
E65 7 series (2001 - present)
F01 7 series (2009-up)

^^Uh oh, now we've got two 7-series?
E90 M3 (2007 - present)
^^Okay, so now we're in the M3 series? Is that like performance model for the 3 series? No M1?
E60 M5 (2005 - present)
E63 M6 (2005 - present)

^^Continuing, I assume?
Z4 M Coupe (2006 - present)
^^wat. Is it an M series? a Z series? Or a different thing?
E83 X3 (2003 - present)
E70 X5 (2007 - present)
X6 – (2007 – present)

^^*twitch*
E85 Z4 (2002 - present) Current US versions are 3.0 and 3.5
^^*vomits*

Well first, I was talking about year to year with new iterations of the same model product - it is not given an entirely new name like iphone 7 vs iphone X is. Vehicles are referred to by year within each model. An iphone with minimal upgrades (similar to an F150 getting upgrades year to year) does not deserve a whole new designation like F150 to F250 - reserved for a whole new need/purpose. That's like an iphone 6 to iphone 6+ (2 different models based on need). If an iphone 7 is updated for the following year, it does not need to be given a random name.

Secondly, you're misinformed about BMW. In no way are those still the "present" years. Those codes are created internally as projects spring up. The prior codes within a class have end-of-life. The E70 was from 2007-2013, for example. F15 is its replacement, and has been for awhile, also near end of life cycle, so an entirely new-looking X5 with new tech will spring up soon.

Can't say the same for phones that barely improve year to year. And even if they do, it's still an iphone model, which leads me back to my original point, all you have to do is name it as the newest using the year.
 
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tommo123

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They really should just stay with the year with all product releases. Iphone 2017 or '17. None of this 360 or One or X or S and then come out with something else that makes zero sense chronologically when people talk about them years from now and can't figure out what came first.

Marketing depts. trying to be edgy so they feel useful?

Imagine if cars started getting these random names every subsequent year.

makes sense. iirc that's what dell did, kinda. a 30" monitor in 2007 became a 3007 (i think). if apple still do different sizes then (seeing as people like the latest stuff) just have year first then size. e.g 1705 (5") 1706 (6"). plus they can be snooty at other iphone users next year when they hear "mine's a 170.", they can say "stop! 17 was last years model. loser!"
 
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