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purbeast0

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I turned true tone off immediately. I hated the color it made the screen. I also noticed walking down the stairs in pretty dim light it made it even dimmer. Screw that feature.

I have 2 questions I don't know the answer to and am wondering if anyone knows.

1. When I get text messages, it says "<name> text message" and then when I unlock with face ID, it will then show the content of the text message. On my wife's 8+ it just shows the text message in the notification. Is there an option to turn this off so it always shows the message?

2. When I was driving it popped up something about noticing I was driving and to configure "Do not disturb" and I said no thanks. Then today it popped up again. Is there anyway to say 'never show me this damn message again' so it doesn't keep popping up?
 

TheStu

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I turned true tone off immediately. I hated the color it made the screen. I also noticed walking down the stairs in pretty dim light it made it even dimmer. Screw that feature.

I have 2 questions I don't know the answer to and am wondering if anyone knows.

1. When I get text messages, it says "<name> text message" and then when I unlock with face ID, it will then show the content of the text message. On my wife's 8+ it just shows the text message in the notification. Is there an option to turn this off so it always shows the message?

2. When I was driving it popped up something about noticing I was driving and to configure "Do not disturb" and I said no thanks. Then today it popped up again. Is there anyway to say 'never show me this damn message again' so it doesn't keep popping up?

1: Settings > Notifications > Show Previews > Always (It'll probably have "When Unlocked" set).
2: Settings > Do Not Disturb > Do Not Disturb While Driving > Activate > Manually
 

purbeast0

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1: Settings > Notifications > Show Previews > Always (It'll probably have "When Unlocked" set).
2: Settings > Do Not Disturb > Do Not Disturb While Driving > Activate > Manually
1. Thanks that did the trick!
2. It's already set to that, and I've had it pop up twice. Maybe it automatically set it to that after I dismissed it the 2nd time? I'll see if it comes on the next time I drive. I've only driven twice since I got the phone.
 

Aikouka

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I seem to be having a rather bad string of luck with technology lately. I wonder if this is what happens when you get old and stuff just never works. Anyway, the one thing that I feared would happen without a physical button did happen. I was in Facebook Messenger, and I meant to pull down the notification bar, but pulled from the right instead, which is the command center. So, I pushed that one back up, but for some reason, after that, absolutely no swipe activations would work. Swiping from the top right didn't bring down the command center and swiping up from the bottom wouldn't even work to get rid of the app. Every time I would try to swipe from the top, it acted like I tapped instead of swiped. Just to make sure that I wasn't being a doofus and tapping, I tried multiple times, which just resulted in my conversation going to the beginning each time. I had to fix it by locking the screen and unlocking it, which made things work correctly.

The thing is... this isn't an iPhone X issue, but rather an iOS 11 problem as I've seen similar problems on my 7+. I still stand by that iOS 11 is probably the buggiest software that I've seen come out of Apple in a long time. I still run into weird usability bugs often, which makes me wonder how much they actually test their software... especially when I ask friends, and they have the same problems. For example, there are times when the Messages app refuses to go to the bottom of a message thread while the keyboard is open. You have to tap into the message thread, which closes the keyboard, and then tap back into the text bar to bring it back. After that, it works fine... until the next time that it decides not to work. My guess is that it has something to do with minimizing the app when the keyboard is up, and when the app resumes, it doesn't realize that the keyboard is up and doesn't shift the window position properly (to make the bottom be at the top of the keyboard).

Let's be real here... usability is part of why we buy these phones. Phones are so entrenched in our daily lives that having your phone screw up on you can be a huge bother. We just want it to work.

2. When I was driving it popped up something about noticing I was driving and to configure "Do not disturb" and I said no thanks. Then today it popped up again. Is there anyway to say 'never show me this damn message again' so it doesn't keep popping up?

Just disable Do Not Disturb completely... unless you use it other times. I tried out the whole driving thing, but I found it to be a bit of a pain, so I just turned it all off.
 

v-600

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Just seen the iphoneX in Vietnam in shops for $1850 (42 million VND). Given that its not officially released here the grey market is making a pretty big mark up. Sell 1 and thats enough for the flight over to sell more.
 

Ravynmagi

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I've been using my iPhone X since Friday and here are my thoughts so far.

Face ID: It has worked pretty good. But I still miss TouchID big time. One thing that I still struggle with is the swipe up from the very bottom of the phone to open after unlocking, I often swipe too high and nothing happens.

Screen real-estate: So many apps have large black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, namely nearly all my Google apps. I feel like I'm back to using a smaller 5 inch iPhone with giant bezels, than a bezeless 5.8 inch phone.

Multi-tasking: Wish it was faster. I swipe from the bottom and hold, but the hold feels a bit too long. I could multi-task faster double pressing the button.

Screen: No complaints. I did keep True-Tone on. I don't mind the warmer colors. I really haven't tried it with it off yet though, so maybe I'll do that today. There is some blue shift at angles. Not as bad as my Pixel 2 XL. Display looks great.

Overall, my two things would be some swipe actions feel slower without the button and the app developers need to hurry up and update their apps to take advantage of the new aspect ratio.
 

TheStu

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Multi-tasking: Wish it was faster. I swipe from the bottom and hold, but the hold feels a bit too long. I could multi-task faster double pressing the button.

Overall, my two things would be some swipe actions feel slower without the button and the app developers need to hurry up and update their apps to take advantage of the new aspect ratio.

If you swipe left-right on the home strip(?) it will swipe through apps. Also, I think with 11.2 they'll be bringing back the 3d touch app switcher (force press the left edge of the display).
 

PricklyPete

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Installing a replacement screen is not for the faint of heart. There are so many little parts and getting the home button and stuff off was pretty tough, but I'm glad it all worked out and I finished it.

Really? I did my 5 several times and now my 6s twice and I thought it was quite easy. Something like 11 screws total.
 

AznAnarchy99

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For me the transition to no home button and FaceID was instant. I feel like I've forgotten I've ever had a home button. I was skeptical of FaceID from the moment it was announced but after using it I've become a believer. It's amazingly fast.

My two major grips about the phone is app support, which should be resolved as time goes on, and the reach ability feature. I find it way to hard to activate.
 

Ravynmagi

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Here are the apps I use that so far don't seem to be updated to take advantage of the new aspect ratio and have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen...
Google Maps
Google Gmail
Google Play Music
Google YouTube Music
Google Hangouts
Google Assistant
Google Calendar
Microsoft Outlook
Yahoo Weather
Tapatalk
Amazon Prime Video
HBO Go
Flixster
Roku
Fox News (don't worry liberals I also have CNN)

Apps that are using the full screen...
I don't use really any Apple apps, but they all seem fine obviously.
Google YouTube
Google Chrome
Scribd
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Netflix
Starz
Crunchyroll
CNN (don't worry conservatives I also have Fox News)

Hopefully Google updates their iOS apps soon since those are the apps I use the majority of the time on the iPhone. Microsoft and Amazon still need to get some updates too.
 

TheStu

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Here are the apps I use that so far don't seem to be updated to take advantage of the new aspect ratio and have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen...
Google Maps
Google Gmail
Google Play Music
Google YouTube Music
Google Hangouts
Google Assistant
Google Calendar
Microsoft Outlook
Yahoo Weather
Tapatalk
Amazon Prime Video
HBO Go
Flixster
Roku
Fox News (don't worry liberals I also have CNN)

Apps that are using the full screen...
I don't use really any Apple apps, but they all seem fine obviously.
Google YouTube
Google Chrome
Scribd
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Netflix
Starz
Crunchyroll
CNN (don't worry conservatives I also have Fox News)

Hopefully Google updates their iOS apps soon since those are the apps I use the majority of the time on the iPhone. Microsoft and Amazon still need to get some updates too.
I wouldn't hold my breath on HBO Go. They still haven't updated it properly for the iPad Pro 12.9.
 

Aikouka

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I think the biggest complaint about FaceID is that it's hard to know when it's actually attempting on the lock screen. While in iOS, it shows the FaceID logo with the swirly animation around it, which shows that it's checking for you. So, if it fails the first FaceID check on the lock screen, how do I know that it's checking again? ...or does it even check more than once? There are times that I may be trying to unlock at an angle, and FaceID doesn't like it. I usually just turn off the screen and turn it back on again to force the FaceID check, but that's rather cumbersome.
 

Ravynmagi

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Multi-tasking: Wish it was faster. I swipe from the bottom and hold, but the hold feels a bit too long. I could multi-task faster double pressing the button.

If you swipe left-right on the home strip(?) it will swipe through apps. Also, I think with 11.2 they'll be bringing back the 3d touch app switcher (force press the left edge of the display).

Thanks TheStu. That helps too and I had forgotten about that. I still like seeing the app switcher. And just read another tip on Reddit regarding that. If you swipe up and then to the right it immediately brings up the app switcher without having to pause. I like that.

I'll have to play around with swiping left-right from the bottom of an app or swiping up and right to see which feels more comfortable for multitasking.
 

purbeast0

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So I got those 2 cases today and I like them both. They both literally look and feel 100% identical other than 1 has the bottom part covered with the case, the other doesn't. But other than that, I'm pretty sure they are the same exact case and even look like they are cut out of the same exact mold. The extra cover down at the bottom on the one is very flimsy and I noticed that the lightning hole doesn't line up 100%. Like it's 100% exposed, but it's not centered in the hole. It makes me wonder if the speaker holes are lined up or not too.

But after trying em both out a little bit it seems that I prefer the one that has the bottom open, for the sole reason of swiping up from the bottom of the phone and not feeling the edge of a case. I think I'm going to keep the one with the open bottom. It feels 100% like the Apple one too from what i remember the other day, other than not having the Apple logo on the back. I am not sure but it doesn't quite feel as "tacky/sticky" as I thought the case in the Apple store felt, but I could just be remembering wrong. The only downside is it appears to attract a lot of dust and stuff, and if this is the case, I don't know how much I'll like it in the long run. But I'm going to give a shot.

This case definitely is noticeably slimmer than the Spigen I had purchased and I like the slimness a lot more. That alone is going to make me return the Spigen case, even if the Spigen case protects it a bit more. I feel a lot more comfortable using the phone with 1 hand in these slim silicone cases than the Spigen one. And the Spigen one I have isn't even very thick at all, it's a rather slim case.
 

Aikouka

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I'll be honest... I hate FaceID. The implementation is so user unfriendly that when one of its unknown requirements is not met, you will simply fail. For example, I was laying in bed and trying to unlock the phone, but it kept failing. I moved it further around, turn the lights on, but nothing helped. Eventually, after cursing Apple profusely, I stood up, held it about 1.5 feet from me perfectly in line with my face, and it finally worked. This thing is so frustrating to use that I'm seriously considering returning the iPhone X and just sticking with my 7 Plus. Sure, the screen is nice and I can send animated fecal matter, but TouchID was such a better system. Their keynote touted that FaceID is more secure, but how paranoid are people to think that they'd just happen to run into someone who is that 1-in-however-many are capable of matching your print? The feeling that we took one step forward with the form factor changes and one step back with FaceID makes the phone feel like more of a side-grade.

Another interesting point that came to mind is that FaceID (to my knowledge and just looking) only allows for one face in the system. TouchID allows for five fingers, which obviously, can be anyone's finger. So, you could do a few of your fingers, and then give your significant other a slot in case she needs to use your phone for whatever reason. At this point, we aren't taking steps back.. we're moonwalkin'... Yeow!!
 

purbeast0

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I haven't really had any issues with FaceID and think it works pretty damn slickly. I've had it fail a couple of times but when it does entering my password isn't a big deal. TouchID failed way more for me on my iPhone 6 than FaceID does, like it's not even close. TouchID would fail like one out of ten times for me.
 

Aikouka

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I haven't really had any issues with FaceID and think it works pretty damn slickly. I've had it fail a couple of times but when it does entering my password isn't a big deal. TouchID failed way more for me on my iPhone 6 than FaceID does, like it's not even close. TouchID would fail like one out of ten times for me.

I rarely ever had a problem with TouchID, and most failures were due to things like wrinkly fingers (getting out of the shower, etc.). I was thinking about it more, and I think I have a good idea what the problem is. TouchID is a far simpler concept, and iOS treats it that way. When you need to unlock or access critical portions of an app, you simply touch your finger to the unlocked phone, and done. If it fails, you may not know why, but in my experience, there aren't many reasons why it would fail. (The largest being wrinkly fingers.) Here's where FaceID is different. FaceID is a more complex method that has distance and angle requirements, yet the OS treats it like it's as simple as TouchID. For example, can you tell me how you know iOS is scanning your face to unlock the phone? No, because there's absolutely no indication that FaceID is working on the lock screen. (Apps actually have an overlay that indicates that FaceID is checking.) Another issue is that given how picky FaceID is about the position of your face, it provides no indication of whether your input (i.e. face position) is bad. It obviously knows when there's an issue, because the Animoji system will tell you to realign your face, and it uses the same hardware as FaceID.

Some of the problems that I run into is that I can see when FaceID fails (the lock shakes), but I honestly have no idea how to make it check again other than turning the screen off and on again. With TouchID, all I do is touch my finger to it again. Yet again, that goes back to the simplicity difference between the two.

Seems like a huge UX failure to me. I do like the bigger screen combined with the smaller overall phone size, but honestly... I'm struggling to say whether it's worth the usability loss to me.
 

purbeast0

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Yeah I can see where you are coming from. I guess I've just had better experience with FaceID. Maybe try setting it up again?
 

Aikouka

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Yeah I can see where you are coming from. I guess I've just had better experience with FaceID. Maybe try setting it up again?

What's weird is that I have a hard time replicating these failures. I'd like to figure out what's the problem so I can use it optimally, but I've tried some various distances, and it's hard to get it to fail at times.

One thing that I might do is turn off the awareness check. That's the thing where it makes sure your eyes are also looking at the screen to make sure that you really want to unlock it.
 

purbeast0

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Anyone with experience with the official Apple silicone cases, are they dust magnets? Also, are they a bit tacky at all with the grip?

I really like the thinness and fit of the 2 cases I got, however they appear to be dust magnets. I am trying the other one out for tomorrow to see if it's the same, but I'm guessing it will be. I put my phone down a few times at the gym while doing exercises and it picked up like every piece of dust. It's pretty easy to wipe off, but it's just ugly and I don't know how long it's going to bother me for.

Also while it's rubbery in it's feel, it's not quite as tacky as I was hoping. It's like TOO smooth on the rubbery feel. I don't remember if the Apple ones are tackier or not but I would also be curious to hear about that from someone else who has used one a bit. I will check them out myself probably in the store just to see.

Does anyone know of any slim cases that don't have the hole on the back, that are rubbery and have good grip? That's basically all I'm looking for at this point lol.
 

Aikouka

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After looking at the back of my 7+, I don't know if I want to trust another Spigen case. My 7+ was only ever taken out of the case when using it with a DJI Mavic, but there were small little gouges in the back. There were also all these weird splotch-like things all over the back. The one nice thing about the Apple Leather cases is that the inside is a soft, cloth-like material. So, I either need to be more proactive in removing the phone and cleaning it ever so often, or just getting a case that doesn't magically get tons of dirt in between the case and the back.
 

Entity23

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Anyone with experience with the official Apple silicone cases, are they dust magnets? Also, are they a bit tacky at all with the grip?


Mine is not a dust magnet but if I wipe it with a bath towel it will get lint on it. But that just wipes off with my finger.

Just for clarity, I have the 6 plus silicone case.
 

Shlong

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I ordered the 256GB Space Gray right when pre-orders went live on Apple's website. The phone was shipped out on 11/8 but it's still in Korea. Hopefully, I receive it early next week.

 

purbeast0

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Mine is not a dust magnet but if I wipe it with a bath towel it will get lint on it. But that just wipes off with my finger.

Just for clarity, I have the 6 plus silicone case.
I went to the store today with my wife because she had to fix some shit and I checked out the silicone case again. It's literally 100% identical in material to the one I got on amazon for like $12 but it's got the Apple logo on it. So it definitely will be a dust magnet. And it like sticks to your pocket as you try to get it in/out of your pocket which is slightly annoying. You can wipe the dust off too but I don't want to be bothered. I got this really slim Luvvitt case today from Amazon and I may keep that. I'd barely even call it a case, it's more like a skin because it doesn't really protect much, but it will help against scratches when setting it down and stuff. It also adds a bit of extra grip. I have another case coming tomorrow that I'm going to see if I like it too.
 
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