Iran may start a war with Israel

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JEDIYoda

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Israel has really stirred the pot on this one, I think for as many people that hate Iran, there's an equal amount of people that despise Israel.

ya think???
Unofficially behind closed doors the nations leaders would welcome Iran getting owned!!
 

senseamp

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When your adversary is as busy shooting itself in the foot as Israel is on this issue, you just sit back and laugh, which is what I think Iran is going to do.
 

JEDIYoda

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We forget that the Iranian government is fighting for survival and one thing that governments on the brink like to do is start wars with neighbors to stir up nationalism and hide their internal problems.

No the Iranian Government is NOT fight for survival.

There is a difference between a government fighting for survival and a people fighting for their very existence! -- Which the iranian people are NOT fighting for!!
 

DucatiMonster696

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No the Iranian Government is NOT fight for survival.

There is a difference between a government fighting for survival and a people fighting for their very existence! -- Which the iranian people are NOT fighting for!!

So what is the theocratic government in Iran fighting and killing its own people for in that nation if not the survival of their political power structure? I doubt Iran's leaders are fighting, arresting and executing their own people for shits and giggles.
 

OCGuy

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The last few wars against Israel did not turn out so well for the agressor.
 

DaFinn

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Well, the big picture is finally getting clearer.

Firts, Iran accuses Turkey of too close relationship with Israel, threatens to cut oil supply.

Turkey (through IHH) then arranges an aid shipment to Gaza, lets few extremists on board to make sure there will be hassle. Gets few international big name activists also on board to make sure of media coverage.

Prepared for battle, activists engage Israeli troops. Several die -> media is quanranteed.

IHH publicly claims media victory and is happy about the deaths.

Israel gets immediately lot of bad will through press, even when details are not clear yet.

Turkey cuts ties with Israel, calls home diplomats.

Turkish prime minister states, that he will be onboard next "aid" shipment... WITH THE TURKISH NAVY.

IHH welcomes Turkish support.

Iran states it will send its fleet and elite units to guard next "aid" shipment.

IHH is like "whoops... uh... well..."

Iran is loading 2 aid ships that will sail end of this week. Due in Gaza next week. Who here thinks Israel lets them trough? Who here thinks Iran WON'T declare war when Israel intercepts those ships.

Iran has done well with their plan. Very well indeed. No matter what Israel does now, it's the bad guy. Should there be war, its all on Israel.

I just hope Iranian leaders read their history books once more, previous aggressors did not fare so well against Israel.
 

Lemon law

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The last world leader who thought he could dope slap Iran was a fellow named Tony Blair.

And because Iran out thought him, Tony Blair was sacked as British PM, and no longer has any credibility.

Just a warning to Israel, if Israel fires first, Iran then has all the options and Israel will be the party over reacting. Israel has already strained relations with Turkey, Jordon, and the UK to mention just a few, Israel certainly can't afford to lose Egypt who can simply let all the aid ships in the world in through their domestic waters.

Bozo Netanyuhu is trying to defend the indefensible, and if he wants to go the way or the dodo and Tony Blair, he is already painting himself into a corner.
 

tvarad

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The last world leader who thought he could dope slap Iran was a fellow named Tony Blair.

And because Iran out thought him, Tony Blair was sacked as British PM, and no longer has any credibility.

Just a warning to Israel, if Israel fires first, Iran then has all the options and Israel will be the party over reacting. Israel has already strained relations with Turkey, Jordon, and the UK to mention just a few, Israel certainly can't afford to lose Egypt who can simply let all the aid ships in the world in through their domestic waters.

Bozo Netanyuhu is trying to defend the indefensible, and if he wants to go the way or the dodo and Tony Blair, he is already painting himself into a corner.

BS, the Egyptians hate the Palestinians' guts. They have seen the mess they've made of Lebanon and I doubt that they want the same thing to happen to them. Mubarak will go along with the rabid street sentiment until the whole thing dies down and then turn the screws right back on, simply because it's a matter of survival for the regime.

The Iranian govt. is running out of options to continue fooling the people that it is representative of them, which is why they're pulling this stunt. The closest analogy is Argentinian dictatorship invading Falklands in the '80s thinking that it's people will pull out their nationalistic pom-poms and start waving them. Instead they got the s**t kicked out of them. Same with Iran if it tries stunts with Israel.

It's one thing to have trustworthy friends, it's quite another to have them hiding knives behind their back while holding one's hand. Israel knows Turkey has gone over to the dark side and will adjust accordingly. It also knows that it's not competing in a beauty contest, so it give a rats a*s about world opinion that's been cynically manipulated by opportunistic arab and muslim thugs and dictators. It'll do what's necessary to protect itself.
 

nageov3t

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does anyone really think that Iran is willing to go to war with the USA over half a city block filled with rubble a thousand miles away?
 

Lemon law

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Good question about the Suez canal, but some of the Iranian Navy could be trucked in through Syria. And who is assuming only the Iranian Navy will be the escorting force? As I said earlier, the route of least resistance is by-pass Israel entirely and end run the blockade through Egyptian waters
where Israel will have no legitimate claims. When the regional nations and possibly Obama by back door channels ask Egypt to open Egyptian waters, Mubarak will have a hard time saying no.

But if the US Navy was ever to join the escorting forces, all the USA would have to send is a row bow flying the US flag, and that would all the US would have to do, if Israel fires on any such US flagged vessel, it would only take a few US nukes to turn all of Israel into a sea of glass.
 
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Moonbeam

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There will be war and rumors of war because we all died as children in a massive attack.
 

GuitarDaddy

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But if the US Navy was ever to join the escorting forces, all the USA would have to send is a row bow flying the US flag, and that would all the US would have to do, if Israel fires on any such US flagged vessel, it would only take a few US nukes to turn all of Israel into a sea of glass.

Your starting to hallucenate! Have you been picking strange mushrooms again

US escorting Islamic blockade protesters = ROFL
US nuking Isreal = Head explodes from laughter
 

K1052

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Good question about the Suez canal, but some of the Iranian Navy could be trucked in through Syria. And who is assuming only the Iranian Navy will be the escorting force? As I said earlier, the route of least resistance is by-pass Israel entirely and end run the blockade through Egyptian waters
where Israel will have no legitimate claims. When the regional nations and possibly Obama by back door channels ask Egypt to open Egyptian waters, Mubarak will have a hard time saying no.

But if the US Navy was ever to join the escorting forces, all the USA would have to send is a row bow flying the US flag, and that would all the US would have to do, if Israel fires on any such US flagged vessel, it would only take a few US nukes to turn all of Israel into a sea of glass.

I want some of whatever you're smoking.
 

nageov3t

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Good question about the Suez canal, but some of the Iranian Navy could be trucked in through Syria. And who is assuming only the Iranian Navy will be the escorting force? As I said earlier, the route of least resistance is by-pass Israel entirely and end run the blockade through Egyptian waters
where Israel will have no legitimate claims. When the regional nations and possibly Obama by back door channels ask Egypt to open Egyptian waters, Mubarak will have a hard time saying no.

But if the US Navy was ever to join the escorting forces, all the USA would have to send is a row bow flying the US flag, and that would all the US would have to do, if Israel fires on any such US flagged vessel, it would only take a few US nukes to turn all of Israel into a sea of glass.
no one is actually interested in providing aid to Gaza.

they're interested in ending the blockade.

trucking in supplies through Egypt does nothing to further their goals of ending the blockade.
 

EagleKeeper

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Good question about the Suez canal, but some of the Iranian Navy could be trucked in through Syria. And who is assuming only the Iranian Navy will be the escorting force? As I said earlier, the route of least resistance is by-pass Israel entirely and end run the blockade through Egyptian waters
where Israel will have no legitimate claims. When the regional nations and possibly Obama by back door channels ask Egypt to open Egyptian waters, Mubarak will have a hard time saying no.

But if the US Navy was ever to join the escorting forces, all the USA would have to send is a row bow flying the US flag, and that would all the US would have to do, if Israel fires on any such US flagged vessel, it would only take a few US nukes to turn all of Israel into a sea of glass.

What would be the purpose of the US Navy escorting aid ships.

Until the blockade is legally determined to be illegal (not just some say-so by flavio or opinions by people that do not like what they see); then Israel has the maritime authority to intercept any vessel that may be carrying supplies that is suspected of delivering contraband to Gaza.

A ship that attempts to run the blockade (failure to stop and allow itself to be searched) can be disabled and sunk accordingly.

Egypt is partially folding to public pressure by now allowing their border crossing to be opened; but they are allowing only people; not heavy supplies/containers.

So if suppplies coming in by ship through Egyptian waters and transported overland arrive at the Gaza border crossing; they will still be denied access according to Egypt (at this time).

And since Gaza is still the responsibility of Israel (Egypt does not want it); Israel can close the crossing if they desire.
 

ericlp

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You mean another TROLL post?

Sheesh...when will it stop?
 

MrEgo

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I don't see how people can seriously post crap like "turn it into a sea of glass".

Would you accept another country nuking the shit out of us if Obama or Bush made a declaration of war that you did not agree with?
 

dainthomas

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The last few wars against Israel did not turn out so well for the agressor.

Haha, this. Yet it's somehow Israel's fault that all the other countries in the region suck so bad at fighting.

A war with Iran would go something like those grade-school fights where the bigger kid keeps saying "Why do you keep hitting yourself? Why do you keep hitting yourself?"
 
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