Iran-Nuclear Weapons

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you P&N guys are amazing

Yes, they have every right to build nuclear weapons
55 votes 38.19 (%)

even iran says they don't want nukes, but the P&N liberals want Iran to have nukes? w0w!!

they (Iran) have even signed the NPT and "Ayatollah Ali Khamenei issued a fatwa forbidding the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons on August 9, 2005. "

so who are the 38% of peoples that voted "Yes, they have every right to build nuclear weapons" ? the conservatives? that seems unlikely


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran

There's a big difference between wanting Iran to have nukes and recognizing Iran's rights as a sovereign nation. They can pull out of the NPT if they want to and build nukes. Would I want them to, no, but I understand that they need to defend themselves from Israeli-American interests.

Edit: And I use Israeli-American interests in the loosest possible way. I doubt the interests of Israel really are the same as your average American, but the current Regime in power in America acts as if they are.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you P&N guys are amazing

Yes, they have every right to build nuclear weapons
55 votes 38.19 (%)

even iran says they don't want nukes, but the P&N liberals want Iran to have nukes? w0w!!

they (Iran) have even signed the NPT and "Ayatollah Ali Khamenei issued a fatwa forbidding the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons on August 9, 2005. "

so who are the 38% of peoples that voted "Yes, they have every right to build nuclear weapons" ? the conservatives? that seems unlikely


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran

There's a big difference between wanting Iran to have nukes and recognizing Iran's rights as a sovereign nation. They can pull out of the NPT if they want to and build nukes. Would I want them to, no, but I understand that they need to defend themselves from Israeli-American interests.

Edit: And I use Israeli-American interests in the loosest possible way. I doubt the interests of Israel really are the same as your average American, but the current Regime in power in America acts as if they are.

What's the point of signing a treaty that when you don't wish to abide by it anymore you just leave it? There should be consequences for leaving it...

 

[INM8]

you need to add another option on the poll saying "Should ANY country be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, if not, should nuclear weapons that currently exist be destroyed?

As long as the west has nukes, the East will strive to attain\manufacture them too. Its not fair for the USA...or any other country for that matter, to say "You cant have nuclear weapons" when they possess them themselves. I dont know about the rest of you, but that seems pretty hipocritical to me.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: INM8
you need to add another option on the poll saying "Should ANY country be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, if not, should nuclear weapons that currently exist be destroyed?

As long as the west has nukes, the East will strive to attain\manufacture them too. Its not fair for the USA...or any other country for that matter, to say "You cant have nuclear weapons" when they possess them themselves. I dont know about the rest of you, but that seems pretty hipocritical to me.

100% agreed.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: INM8
you need to add another option on the poll saying "Should ANY country be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, if not, should nuclear weapons that currently exist be destroyed?

As long as the west has nukes, the East will strive to attain\manufacture them too. Its not fair for the USA...or any other country for that matter, to say "You cant have nuclear weapons" when they possess them themselves. I dont know about the rest of you, but that seems pretty hipocritical to me.

100% agreed.

I'd like to see the United States and Israel take the first step towards a 100% dismantlement of their nuclear weapons.

 

[Duckzilla]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I voted:

Yes, they have a right but not with the current regime
Yes, they should attack the nuclear sites + Iranian regime
Yes they have a right to fight back if attacked

Thats exactly how I voted.

 

[Keyvan]

Originally posted by: narcotic
Another thought...
It does seem odd to me that smart people as you are being fooled that easily by the Iranian president. Sure, he makes constant threats to Israel, so some of us go "hey, this is not our problem... It's Israel's problem right?!...".
Well, WRONG! Sure the Iranian hate Israel and would be very happy to have it gone, but trust me, Israel has nothing to do with its ultimate goal. He has every intention of getting rid of the western civilization and make sure Islam rules the world. Why would he think he can do it? Well, because he's a crazy psychopath, sure he will lose eventually, but his nukes will have enough range to hit many major European cities (not to mention Russian), and it won't be long before he'll have capability of hitting us as well, and that will cause some damage.
So, if you feel relaxed because you think Iran is only after Israel then you're making a deadly mistake.
Israel is a nice to have candy for them, and they use it for diversion (which judging by some of the posts here, obviously works) for their real goal.

Iranian president knows he heads into a clash, and probably knows he's going to lose, so why does he do it? It's really hard to say... Why did Sadam did what he did? Look where it got him... It's hard to say with these people, I guess this is what happens when people that should locked up in mental institution run a country.

and it doesn't seem odd to me that you are completely ignorant of how things are actually run in Iran. Believe it or not, an Iranian "president" does not have the powers people associate with him. The decisions are all taken ultimately by the "Supreme Leader".
So regardless of what he says, he's merely a spokesperson, a bad one I might add.
My point being that the government doesn't really change in terms of foreign policy from one president to the next.